The ransom note and staging

[BBB167893]

The DNA is bull, the RN is bull. The garrote was just a prop, so thats bull too. The basement crime scene was staged, so its bull. The R's reaction after the murder was bull.

Now we're starting to agree on things!

Pretty soon RDI is going to run out of 'bull' cards, and start facing facts.

Look, if you want to debate points, that's great. If you want to address the various conflicts around this case, fine by me. But that high-hat stuff is wasted on me.

 

[Holdontoyourhat]

Now we're starting to agree on things!



Pot and kettle, my friend.

Sorry, left one out: The second ligature was too loose to be effective at anything, so its bull too!

 

[BBB167893]

You're doing okay so far!

This isn't a private party, folks. Anyone can join in.

 

[UKGuy]

Criminal Profiler Roger L. Depue, Chief of the FBI's Behavioural Science Unit, at Quantico, who on retirement, went onto setup an elite forensics company The Academy Group, was requested by Bert Brown, who was acting as a consultant on behalf of Boulder DA's office, to review and offer an opinion on JonBenet's homicide, specifically with respect to the ransom note. The following is a summary account.

Roger was sent a photocopy of the two and half page note, written on a legal pad. The question asked , was what type of person might have written it?

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In two decades of analyzing written crime scene evidence I'd never seen a two-and-a-half-page, hand printed ransom note. Never. Thats how unusual it was.

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Summary:
There was certainly a lot of crime scene information, other than than this note, to process. We know for example, that the killer apparently took the time to write a practise note which began: "dear Mr. and Mrs. Ramsey.". But just sticking to the written material given to me, I could tell a lot. My analysis indicated that, operationally, the note was prepared without much planning, and contained inconsistencies not expected in a bona fide kidnap demand note; psychologically the perpetrator was sane and stable, but distressed, and of low criminal compotence. Furthermore, my profile of the writer revealed someone who was in all likelihood white, female, Southern, well educated, middle-aged, and who knew John Ramsey, his personal life, and business, quite well.

A similar account and profile was transmitted to the DA's office via Bert Brown.

Are we looking for a female sexual predator?



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[Solace]

And in this so-called 'staging', she applies not only brutality in word, but brutality in deed, with sexual assault and a kidnapping for ransom on the side?

Self preservation would lead to a mixture of sexual assault and kidnapping for ransom evidence? I could understand one or the other, but both?

The idea that sexual assault and kidnapping would be superimposed as a staging attempt seems unlikely. Why then would they call 911 a full day before the RN said they needed to?

What???????????????

 

[BlueCrab]

Are we looking for a female sexual predator?

... who has a college degree in journalism but doesn't know how to spell "business".

Don't think so.

BlueCrab

 

[Solace]

You're doing okay so far!

This isn't a private party, folks. Anyone can join in.

You are doing great SD. You are a fact-bringing man. Maybe one day Holdin will see the light. This is a family murder. It is. But the Ramseys were excellent at making one believe otherwise. But not after one reads everything, not after that!

 

[Solace]

... who has a college degree in journalism but doesn't know how to spell "business".

Don't think so.

BlueCrab

Maybe she was nervous. That handwriting sure looks shakey to me. And it is NOT a child's handwriting. Please look at the handwriting of ten year olds, please. Como on.

Andrew Hodges says that misspelling was her subconscious mind coming out meaning she was disgusted by the incestuous affair going on with JonBenet, since buss means kiss.

 

[UKGuy]

... who has a college degree in journalism but doesn't know how to spell "business".

Don't think so.

BlueCrab

BlueCrab,

If your going to construct a fake ransom note then surely you must mispell here and there, disinformation possibly?


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[BlueCrab]

And it is NOT a child's handwriting. Please look at the handwriting of ten year olds, please.

Solace,

I did as you requested. I have a 10-year-old granddaughter living with me and a lengthy shopping list written by her happened to be on the kitchen counter. Her handwriting, letter for letter, looks very much like that in the ransom note. Another thing that stood out to me was the long distances between the words in my granddaughter's note and the long distances between the words in the Ramsey ransom note (a trait in the writings of 10-year-olds?).

BlueCrab

 

[Nuisanceposter]

... who has a college degree in journalism but doesn't know how to spell "business".

Don't think so.

BlueCrab

Can't spell business or possession, but can accurately spell other more diffcult words like:

instructions
adequate
attaché (complete with accurate use of accent mark)
exhausting
deviation
execution
particularly
situation
authorities
devices
deceive
familiar
countermeasures
scrutiny
underestimate

Really, I think anyone who can't spell 'business' or 'possession' would have just as much trouble spelling the other words as well...not to mention this author used correct sentence structure, grammar, and punctuation. The RN reads in a stiff and formal manner that I can't see a child being capable of imitating as well as the RN author did. It's also curious to me that the author only misspelled words in the first paragraph, and then got all the other difficult words correct.

 

[UKGuy]

Can't spell business or possession, but can accurately spell other more diffcult words like:

instructions
adequate
attaché (complete with accurate use of accent mark)
exhausting
deviation
execution
particularly
situation
authorities
devices
deceive
familiar
countermeasures
scrutiny
underestimate

Really, I think anyone who can't spell 'business' or 'possession' would have just as much trouble spelling the other words as well...not to mention this author used correct sentence structure, grammar, and punctuation. The RN reads in a stiff and formal manner that I can't see a child being capable of imitating as well as the RN author did. It's also curious to me that the author only misspelled words in the first paragraph, and then got all the other difficult words correct.

Yah! reeks of good planning.


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[BlueCrab]

Yah! reeks of good planning.


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Nah! Reeks of a college student looking over the writer's shoulder after the first few mis-spellings on the first page and thereafter occasionally looking up words in the nearby dictionary.

 

[UKGuy]

Nah! Reeks of a college student looking over the writer's shoulder after the first few mis-spellings on the first page and thereafter occasionally looking up words in the nearby dictionary.

BlueCrab,

Maybe, but if we are going to revise the ransom note based on a dictionary, why not start again, we did before?


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[icedtea4me]

Solace,

I did as you requested. I have a 10-year-old granddaughter living with me and a lengthy shopping list written by her happened to be on the kitchen counter. Her handwriting, letter for letter, looks very much like that in the ransom note. Another thing that stood out to me was the long distances between the words in my granddaughter's note and the long distances between the words in the Ramsey ransom note (a trait in the writings of 10-year-olds?).

BlueCrab

Does your 10 year-old granddaughter use "v"s above sentences to insert missing words?


-Tea

 

[Holdontoyourhat]

Maybe she was nervous. That handwriting sure looks shakey to me. And it is NOT a child's handwriting. Please look at the handwriting of ten year olds, please. Como on.

Andrew Hodges says that misspelling was her subconscious mind coming out meaning she was disgusted by the incestuous affair going on with JonBenet, since buss means kiss.

What????????????

 

[Holdontoyourhat]

Summary:
There was certainly a lot of crime scene information, other than than this note, to process. We know for example, that the killer apparently took the time to write a practise note which began: "dear Mr. and Mrs. Ramsey." Wha? Did we just forget about JBR, the garrote, the 2nd ligature, the injuries, and the unidentified male DNA? The things that basically characterize the crime and the killer?

But just sticking to the written material given to me, (OK, I can see we're sticking to that, for some reason) I could tell a lot. My analysis indicated that, operationally, the note was prepared without much planning (Yeah right, 'SBTC,' 'Victory!' we don't respect your country, and your not the only fat cat so don't think that killing will be difficult, shows the killer had no forethought. Thats the first thing I'd think), and contained inconsistencies not expected in a bona fide kidnap demand note (such as??); psychologically the perpetrator was sane and stable (you've got to be kidding me! '...your daughter will be beheaded,' or 'so don't think that killing will be difficult' are expressions of a homicidal maniac!), but distressed (ns), and of low criminal compotence (thats why 10 years later, still not in jail. yeah right). Furthermore, my profile of the writer revealed someone who was in all likelihood white (nope), female (male), Southern (nope), well educated (nope), middle-aged (probably), and who knew John Ramsey, his personal life (nope. JR has no 'southern' common sense, since he's not from the south. RN author doesn't know JR's personal life), and business (nope), quite well.

Way off. Not even close.

 

[Holdontoyourhat]

... who has a college degree in journalism but doesn't know how to spell "business".

Don't think so.

BlueCrab

Does your 10 year-old granddaughter use "v"s above sentences to insert missing words?


-Tea

These are both valid observations.

Who could both misspell 'bussiness', and use a 'v' above sentences, all at the same time?

An ESL.

 

[Toltec]

No they're not. Its an unsolved murder, and if they had a lead they'd follow it. There's been no 'tip off' that the ransom note definitely means one thing or another.

If the FBI truly believed it was a ransom note, they would have followed up on it even though JonBenet was found.

FBI told police it changed from a kidnapping to a domestic homicide. Wonder why they said that?

Why not a kidnapping gone awry?

 

[Holdontoyourhat]

If the FBI truly believed it was a ransom note, they would have followed up on it even though JonBenet was found.

FBI told police it changed from a kidnapping to a domestic homicide. Wonder why they said that?

Why not a kidnapping gone awry?

The botched kidnapping is a very big possibility. Things like the change of clothes, the 2nd ligature obviously designed to restrain and not kill, the tape over the mouth, and the ransom note itself, all suggest a possible intent to remove JBR from the house.