The Rev. Richard G

[tippytoes]

I am amazed at the double standard regarding Rev Grund. It's important to remember that he was duped into the role of grandfather by Casey and her lies, yet he chose to love Caylee even after the paternity test showed that she wasn't a family member.

 

[TURBOTHINK]

Amber Fry was prosecution witness in the Scott Peterson murder trial. It was crucial the Ms. Fry not talk to the media or anyone else about her involvement/knowledge. The news media thirst for knowledge and answers led Ms. Fry to hire Ms. Gloria Allred, who defended Ms. Fry's involvement and helped the public understand exactly what her involvement was/is......How is this any different than what RJ Grund is doing for his son Jesse? Jesse needs to stay silent until he is called as a witness to protect the states case. RJ is trying to defend his precious son while still keeping the intergrity of the case intact.

RJ has always tried to keep the circus aspect down and focus on Caylee. It is CA who keeps stating Jesse and or his friends and or his ex cop friends are invloved in framing KC- taking Caylee. RJ is just trying to make sure this train never leaves the station as it did in the Scott Peterson case. (many news media people stated Ms. Fry was involved etc)

If it was my son--I would have reacted a lot worse and more often that RJ-hats off to him and his maturity! and example.

Let us not forget- if this case is not settled soon- and does make it to trial- RJ family will suffer a financial hardship, loss of work, travel, and missed employment opportunities in order to be available to the prosecution and also to defend what we all know is coming--CA is still to this day maintaininng "Jesse did it or is involved".....

Will RJ's Family write a book? Well Amber Fry did.....In popular profile cases many people write books or assist in a documentary project film/book.....

What his family does with their information is their business. Let us not forget how they where forced to be involved as KC was pregnant in late Nov 2004 and KC met Jesse in January 2005.

IMHO----

:clap::clap:

They have been used by KC and the Anthonys for years and maybe it is time they tell what they know. If CA did not like them, why did she go along with them keeping Caylee all that time?

JG kept her on his only day off and his father (and I assume his mother) kept her all the other time. Where was all the LOVE CA had at that time?

Mr.G worked out of his home and still managed to keep her for KC to go to her "fake" job.

I believe the Anthonys will throw anyone to the wolves, they believe can take suspicion off KC. What they didn't count on was JG taking a polygraph right out of the box. They did not know he had taken it when they were making all those accusations.

I believe KC was going to try to frame him, with the help of her parents, and LE let them swing on that rope for a while to get more information, although JG had already passed the polygraph. If you notice they kept that secret, just like the one of Tony's,

 

[DollyPardonMe]

Amber Fry was prosecution witness in the Scott Peterson murder trial. It was crucial the Ms. Fry not talk to the media or anyone else about her involvement/knowledge. The news media thirst for knowledge and answers led Ms. Fry to hire Ms. Gloria Allred, who defended Ms. Fry's involvement and helped the public understand exactly what her involvement was/is......How is this any different than what RJ Grund is doing for his son Jesse? Jesse needs to stay silent until he is called as a witness to protect the states case. RJ is trying to defend his precious son while still keeping the intergrity of the case intact.

RJ has always tried to keep the circus aspect down and focus on Caylee. It is CA who keeps stating Jesse and or his friends and or his ex cop friends are invloved in framing KC- taking Caylee. RJ is just trying to make sure this train never leaves the station as it did in the Scott Peterson case. (many news media people stated Ms. Fry was involved etc)

If it was my son--I would have reacted a lot worse and more often that RJ-hats off to him and his maturity! and example.

Let us not forget- if this case is not settled soon- and does make it to trial- RJ family will suffer a financial hardship, loss of work, travel, and missed employment opportunities in order to be available to the prosecution and also to defend what we all know is coming--CA is still to this day maintaininng "Jesse did it or is involved".....

Will RJ's Family write a book? Well Amber Fry did.....In popular profile cases many people write books or assist in a documentary project film/book.....

What his family does with their information is their business. Let us not forget how they where forced to be involved as KC was pregnant in late Nov 2004 and KC met Jesse in January 2005.

IMHO----

If Amber Fry just wanted to write a book to clear her name then ok, but writing a book doesn't mean you will be independantly wealthy from the profits the rest of your life either! Amber Fry just lost her house to foreclosure. Just because you write a book, youre not guaranteed someone wants to buy it!

 

[Schmerty_Jones]

:clap::clap:

They have been used by KC and the Anthonys for years and maybe it is time they tell what they know. If CA did not like them, why did she go along with them keeping Caylee all that time?

JG kept her on his only day off and his father (and I assume his mother) kept her all the other time. Where was all the LOVE CA had at that time?

Mr.G worked out of his home and still managed to keep her for KC to go to her "fake" job.

I believe the Anthonys will throw anyone to the wolves, they believe can take suspicion off KC. What they didn't count on was JG taking a polygraph right out of the box. They did not know he had taken it when they were making all those accusations.

I believe KC was going to try to frame him, with the help of her parents, and LE let them swing on that rope for a while to get more information, although JG had already passed the polygraph. If you notice they kept that secret, just like the one of Tony's,

Great post!!! LE is smarter than the Ants think & have figured out a lot that they are not saying. Casey for all her evil plans can't fool everyone. Shame on Cindy & George to bring her up with these lies & devious actions!!!

 

[DollyPardonMe]

He hugged me first then the hair on the back of my neck went straight up...

Ok, I'm not overly religious, not a very good Christian, have trouble quoting scripture, BUT have you ever thought:

~ Hebrews 13:1-2

"Keep on loving each other as brothers.
Do not forget to entertain strangers,
for by so doing some people have
entertained angels without knowing it."

Maybe he considered you an angel. Weren't you out there looking for Caylee too?

 

[Deputy Andy]

I feel the same way you do. When you meet someone in person and that person gives you uneasy chills............ that is what I am basing my comment on.

And as for the judgemental hair comments.......stop being so serious. When I hugged Rev. Grund.............I started to laugh because up close he reminded me of my husband who used JUST FOR MEN......... if you did not like the comment you did not have to respond.

If I spoke my true feelings I would get BANNED.

Thank you very much. It feels better not to be alone here.

 

[Deputy Andy]

I wonder if some folks don't like RG because of his religious beliefs? If so, we need to remember that (far as I know) this country allows liberty for all to believe as they will (or won't.) And that, IMO, is the true meaning of tolerance. <steps off soap box.>

Gee, you might be on to something here. But tolerance is very different than trust, isn't it?

I tolerate many but truly trust few.

 

[LiveLoveLaughLiza]

Ok, I'm not overly religious, not a very good Christian, have trouble quoting scripture, BUT have you ever thought:

~ Hebrews 13:1-2

"Keep on loving each other as brothers.
Do not forget to entertain strangers,
for by so doing some people have
entertained angels without knowing it."

Maybe he considered you an angel. Weren't you out there looking for Caylee too?

Awwwww Dolly, that was beautiful and sweet.:blowkiss:

 

[txsvicki]

I've been very wary of the r.g. not because he is religious, but the things he's said makes me feel he is being a grudge holder and full of hatred, which pastor's aren't supposed to go around displaying. He's slurred Cindy and George in every interview that I've heard him do, and in doing that, he could even be setting up more defense and excuses for Casey. I don't believe anyone has caught on to this yet. Is he defending Casey, getting revenge for doubts about Jesse, or both...........

 

[tippytoes]

I've been very wary of the r.g. not because he is religious, but the things he's said makes me feel he is being a grudge holder and full of hatred, which pastor's aren't supposed to go around displaying. He's slurred Cindy and George in every interview that I've heard him do, and in doing that, he could even be setting up more defense and excuses for Casey. I don't believe anyone has caught on to this yet. Is he defending Casey, getting revenge for doubts about Jesse, or both...........

I must be missing the boat. All I heard from him, initially, was concern for Caylee, the girl he was tricked into believing was his granddaughter.

When he became aware of the "cover up," he refused to go along with it and support Casey. Next he learned that his son was being accused (and to whomever said Cindy can accuse all she wants, I hope it's not your name that gets inserted into a missing/presumed murdered investigation.

The fact that he acknowledges Casey's story is a lie doesn't make him full of hatred and as for a "grudge holder?" Yeah--if you kill a baby, especially one I knew and cared for and try to cover it up, I might hold a grudge.

I must be easy--I'll take the truth from wherever I can get it.

 

[LiveLoveLaughLiza]

I must be missing the boat. All I heard from him, initially, was concern for Caylee, the girl he was tricked into believing was his granddaughter.

When he became aware of the "cover up," he refused to go along with it and support Casey. Next he learned that his son was being accused (and to whomever said Cindy can accuse all she wants, I hope it's not your name that gets inserted into a missing/presumed murdered investigation.

The fact that he acknowledges Casey's story is a lie doesn't make him full of hatred and as for a "grudge holder?" Yeah--if you kill a baby, especially one I knew and cared for and try to cover it up, I might hold a grudge.

I must be easy--I'll take the truth from wherever I can get it.

Thank you tippytoes, I thought I got to the dock late myself.

I just wanted to add, Rev. G has shown more raw emotion regarding Caylee than any of the Anthony's.

As far as defending his son.......more power to him. Like my Daddy always says, "Liza, it will never matter how old you get, I will always be your Daddy". Isn't that what families who love and care about each other do? Defend and protect each other?
blowkiss: to my Daddy).

as usual...:moo:

 

[TinPan]

You guys are probably right about the set up starting around the shower time.

 

[ellieit]

I think RG just knows much about that family from what KC told them....such as LA and GA abusing KC. I think he's just letting the G & C know that there's much he could say but won't at this time until they find Caylee. He's none too happy that the A's are throwing his son under the bus.

I agree....Who was the one that said "don't listen" to JG was that Cindy?
or did she tell LE that KC said don't listen to him. Either way I think they are trying to discredit JG because of the information that he knows. don't know why but I have always had this "GUT" feeling about Lee I know it's wrong but from day one I have had a really odd feeling about Leeboy!

 

[EtherealGirl]

I don't want to say anything bad about RG, because I don't see what it has to do with finding Caylee but, we had a sort of penpal thing going on Myspace and I had to back away because I was getting some strange vibes. I do believe though he had every right to defend his son.

According to him he was once possessed and turned his life around and now casts out demons and stuff. He told me believes certain members of the A family are possessed.

Everyone is entitled to their beliefs, and I am not saying I don't believe in demons because I have seen a lot in my lifetime. I guess I am just wary of someone that would spill their guts like that...I wouldn't unless I really knew a person.

Plus..it's really hard for me to wrap my mind around the fact that "the devil made them do it", maybe that makes me a terrible person but I want to see justice for that little girl, and claiming that Satan forced someone to do it just seems a bit out there to me.

But I do admire the way he defends his son and belive he has every right to do that. If it was my child being persecuted, Satan would be the last thing you would have to worry about.

And I am not saying he wasn't possessed. Stranger things have happened and I have seen them happen. But the whole scenario just put me off..so it's really my problem and not his why I stopped the correspondence.

 

[BB12]

Cindy can insinuate that Jesse is involved till the cows come home... LE does not consider him to be a suspect, and that is what counts. I doubt if either Jesse's or Richard's testimony will take more than one day, if that... they don't know that much about the circumstances of Caylee's disappearance... how is that going to affect great financial hardship on them?
And if they DO write a book... won't that just be one more person looking to make money off this little girl?? Gee... I guess some can and some can't.

I believe the prosecution case will take very little time for the Grund Family to testify--however, that does not mean the defense will not base its entire case on the theory that JG did it....resonable doubt.....

another point--this is the Grund Family life and events--who are we to judge if they want to write a book on their life and experiences? How is that cashing in? How is that having a double standard?

Also-it is rare to actually make money off a book. Someone like Ann Rule, John Douglas, Mark Furhman they will write a book and they will make money.

This is why I refrain from posting....my statement was taken and twisted and then attach on a personal level. I like many others I will just keep my opinions to myself and go back to lurking.:beamup:

 

[OneLostGrl]

I've been very wary of the r.g. not because he is religious, but the things he's said makes me feel he is being a grudge holder and full of hatred, which pastor's aren't supposed to go around displaying. He's slurred Cindy and George in every interview that I've heard him do, and in doing that, he could even be setting up more defense and excuses for Casey. I don't believe anyone has caught on to this yet. Is he defending Casey, getting revenge for doubts about Jesse, or both...........

reaLLY?! Isn't this ( http://websleuths.com/forums/showpost.php?p=2966429&postcount=41) your post? Have you changed your mind since posting that?

 

[Oakley]

I believe the prosecution case will take very little time for the Grund Family to testify--however, that does not mean the defense will not base its entire case on the theory that JG did it....resonable doubt.....

another point--this is the Grund Family life and events--who are we to judge if they want to write a book on their life and experiences? How is that cashing in? How is that having a double standard?

Also-it is rare to actually make money off a book. Someone like Ann Rule, John Douglas, Mark Furhman they will write a book and they will make money.

This is why I refrain from posting....my statement was taken and twisted and then attach on a personal level. I like many others I will just keep my opinions to myself and go back to lurking.:beamup:

(Bold Mine) Please don't stop posting, BB12! Your posts are among those that are most interesting to me. :blowkiss:

 

[Oakley]

Gee, you might be on to something here. But tolerance is very different than trust, isn't it?

I tolerate many but truly trust few.

I appreciate your honesty. And I agree that tolerance and trust are not the same thing.

 

[DollyPardonMe]

If Amber Fry just wanted to write a book to clear her name then ok, but writing a book doesn't mean you will be independantly wealthy from the profits the rest of your life either! Amber Fry just lost her house to foreclosure. Just because you write a book, youre not guaranteed someone wants to buy it!

(Bold Mine) Please don't stop posting, BB12! Your posts are among those that are most interesting to me. :blowkiss:

Yes, please don't stop posting! I wrote my post to defend yours. I hope it wasn't taken any other way.

 

[Deputy Andy]

I don't want to say anything bad about RG, because I don't see what it has to do with finding Caylee but, we had a sort of penpal thing going on Myspace and I had to back away because I was getting some strange vibes. I do believe though he had every right to defend his son.

According to him he was once possessed and turned his life around and now casts out demons and stuff. He told me believes certain members of the A family are possessed.

Everyone is entitled to their beliefs, and I am not saying I don't believe in demons because I have seen a lot in my lifetime. I guess I am just wary of someone that would spill their guts like that...I wouldn't unless I really knew a person.

Plus..it's really hard for me to wrap my mind around the fact that "the devil made them do it", maybe that makes me a terrible person but I want to see justice for that little girl, and claiming that Satan forced someone to do it just seems a bit out there to me.

But I do admire the way he defends his son and belive he has every right to do that. If it was my child being persecuted, Satan would be the last thing you would have to worry about.

And I am not saying he wasn't possessed. Stranger things have happened and I have seen them happen. But the whole scenario just put me off..so it's really my problem and not his why I stopped the correspondence.

The bolding is mine, and this is THE VERY FIRST TIME IN MY ENTIRE LIFE I HAVE TO USE AN EMOTICON::laughitup::laughitup::laughitup: