The State Rests in the State v Jodi Arias: break in trial until 28 January 2013 #10

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  • #681
curious why peeps think he's sitting at the bottom of the shower rather than on the built-in seat or even just leaned up against the wall. If there a broader pic that shows this?

There is no shower seat in his shower. This was a small shower. The sitting on the shower floor photo (not the full on face photo) shows the floor of the shower clearly.
 
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  • #683
There is no shower seat in his shower. This was a small shower. The sitting on the shower floor photo (not the full on face photo) shows the floor of the shower clearly.

can you link it, please! I've viewed tons of pics here there and elsewhere, but haven't seen this specific photo. Or at least haven't recognized it as the one y'all are referring to.
 
  • #684
What is that dark object in the bottom right corner of the last pic of Travis (torso sitting in shower), something dark just by the heel of his foot?


I was just getting ready to ask the same thing. A knife or gun???????
 
  • #685
Is what I see the tip of a black ink pen or the barrel of a black gun in the bottom left of the photo where travis is sitting in shower? Or, something else?
 
  • #686
I was just getting ready to ask the same thing. A knife or gun???????

I seen that too.... BUT... I think it's the prosecutors pen... he would typically use it to point at different things in the pictures. My first thought was gun LOL but I'm pretty sure they would have noticed it and pointed it out too ;-)
 
  • #687
can you link it, please! I've viewed tons of pics here there and elsewhere, but haven't seen this specific photo. Or at least haven't recognized it as the one y'all are referring to.
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  • #688
I seen that too.... BUT... I think it's the prosecutors pen... he would typically use it to point at different things in the pictures. My first thought was gun LOL but I'm pretty sure they would have noticed it and pointed it out too ;-)

I wish we could see the original pics before other people's stuff and body parts appear in them!
 
  • #689
Is what I see the tip of a black ink pen or the barrel of a black gun in the bottom left of the photo where travis is sitting in shower? Or, something else?

looks like a boat cleat to me but I know it is not
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  • #690
looks like a boat cleat to me but I know it is not
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I would sure hope one of those isn't mounted on the floor of the shower. Ouch!
 
  • #691
ok.. in that picture... are his legs crossed? and where are his arms? is he holding them up in the air? tbh, it's the first time I've really noticed... but he has hairy legs, and I thought he didn't like hair... maybe that was just hair in certain places LOL at first I was thinking, hmmm maybe he's shaving, but I don't think he did his legs/arms. I can't think of where his right arm would be except for up ... but why?
 
  • #692
Thank you manzana for posting that pic as I could not find it right away. You can see the shower drain under Travis's leg.
 
  • #693
I think TA was a victim of sexual abuse, and I might be roasted for saying that but it's how I feel. Anyone remember being disgusted at the Debra Lafave case? That kid was mesmerized at what he'd never experienced before. And what about the Mary Kay Letourneau case? She seduced a 13 year old, had two of his children while in prison, and married him when she was released.

I know Travis was not a child, but if he was a virgin as others say he was it's not a huge stretch to imagine the power her sexual advances might have had over him. And from the glimpses we've seen of the kind of person she is, it's not a stretch at all to see how she would have taken advantage of that.

RSBM

I wouldn't say Travis was sexually abused by Jodi, but I do believe Jodi used Travis' guilt and shame about having sex with her as tools of manipulation. Personality-disordered people seem to have a knack for homing in on a person's weaknesses in order to control the person. The other thing is the very "wrong-ness" of the sex probably made it that much more enjoyable, ensnaring Travis even further and making it that much more difficult for him to free himself. It's such a tragedy because, from everything I've read about Travis, his religion was very important to him. It wasn't just an act.

My heart goes out to his family. Every time I see those last "alive" photos, I keep wishing that the story will end differently, that he will be able to escape but of course, tragically, that didn't happen.

JMO, MOO
 
  • #694
Manzana, can you post the link to that pic that you deleted? Thanks.
 
  • #695
I think it is some sort of sex toy thing----the same thing that TA is holding up in one of the pics that some may (mistakenly) think is TA giving "the finger". Look closely at that object in both pics....:what:
 
  • #696
Thank you manzana for posting that pic as I could not find it right away. You can see the shower drain under Travis's leg.

Sorry but got to thinking I should delete it, I remember mods said you had to post a graphic warning but that really does not cut it IMO as a photo stands out and a little word does not
 
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ok.. in that picture... are his legs crossed? and where are his arms? is he holding them up in the air? tbh, it's the first time I've really noticed... but he has hairy legs, and I thought he didn't like hair... maybe that was just hair in certain places LOL at first I was thinking, hmmm maybe he's shaving, but I don't think he did his legs/arms. I can't think of where his right arm would be except for up ... but why?

We see his left leg up towards his chest. Can't see the right leg. Right arm appears to be resting on his right leg or on the way down to his right leg. Left arm appears to be up and could be hiding his face, wiping away water from his face, or any number of things.

MOO
 
  • #699
What happened between 5:25:00 and 5:29:20..... 4 minutes!!! Strange....

I have an idea about this...will share it tomorrow.
 
  • #700
I think it is some sort of sex toy thing----the same thing that TA is holding up in one of the pics that some may (mistakenly) think is TA giving "the finger". Look closely at that object in both pics....:what:

It is the pen that the State attorney is holding and pointing with. There is no sex toy thing in the photo at all.
 
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