The State Rests in the State v Jodi Arias: break in trial until 28 January 2013 #10

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I am in Texas too and I knew of it way back in June of 2008 and was living in a small town at that time of less than 30,000 I really am surprised when I hear people say it has not received coverage.

I'm also live in a small Texas town, population 1,489 LOL! Our crappy paper comes out once a week filled with crime news and religious news. Thank goodness for Websleuths because without Websleuths and the internet I would not know what is happening in the USA or the world.

As a side note, my rather immature husband and I had an argument the other day and he actually told me all I ever do is watch the JA trial and read Websleuths! The nerve!
 
I'm also live in a small Texas town, population 1,489 LOL! Our crappy paper comes out once a week filled with crime news and religious news. Thank goodness for Websleuths because without Websleuths and the internet I would not know what is happening in the USA or the world.

As a side note, my rather immature husband and I had an argument the other day and he actually told me all I ever do is watch the JA trial and read Websleuths! The nerve!

LOL Welcome. Just tell him ya could have worse hobby's :floorlaugh: Welcome to the dark and fun side :seeya:
 
I have a feeling this case is going to become even more explosive with the defense. I think they are going to go for broke, put her on the stand. She'll claim she took the gun from her gparents for protection while traveling. They'll trash Travis,and the overkill will be explained by their experts who will say she has been quite manipulated, denigrated and abused... and the jury just might feel sorry enough for her to spare her life. She'll be found guilty of murder, but it just might be manslaughter or second degree murder...she isn't going to get death.

Please, please, please put her on the stand! I doubt it will happen, but I am begging for it. If she does go on the stand, I think we will hear version 4 of the story. Even her own attorney made a comment about changing her story again.
 
And I think I may be talked into the gunshot as first.

I could see it happening either way (the sequence)

and I am not sure why the state put such emphasis on the sequence. It does not matter imhoo.. she killed him three times over. Three fatal wounds:

1) slit the man's throat almost cutting off his head
2) stab to the heart
3) gun shot to the frontal lobe

oh wait.. even four times over:

4) 27 stab wounds that could cause him to bleed to death
 
Please, please, please put her on the stand! I doubt it will happen, but I am begging for it. If she does go on the stand, I think we will hear version 4 of the story. Even her own attorney made a comment about changing her story again.

Shoot we may hear a continuos change in her version of events. lol
 
Respectfully snipped for space.

So if she fired the gun with her left hand and held the camera in her right, that would make it more likely the gun would jam, than if she fired using both hands?

Yes...
 
I'm also live in a small Texas town, population 1,489 LOL! Our crappy paper comes out once a week filled with crime news and religious news. Thank goodness for Websleuths because without Websleuths and the internet I would not know what is happening in the USA or the world.

As a side note, my rather immature husband and I had an argument the other day and he actually told me all I ever do is watch the JA trial and read Websleuths! The nerve!


Tell him we're your "peeps", and we "have your back". Then tell him he'll be required to perform certain "duties" like "crime re enactment", making dinner during "verdict watch", and most importantly.... Hold you while you cry for the victims.
 
I can NOT stand to read the comments on HLN or facebook. It's obvious the people here have kept up with the trial and details of the case. Those people on HLN and facebook don't have a clue what has taken place or who or what! Drives me crazy so I try very hard not to even look at the comments there.
:banghead:

Thanks for the warning. I guess I will not even click the link then because I don't want to get my blood pressure up. Anyone who thinks Travis deserved to be brutally murdered is an [unusual person]. :censored::furious:

JMO, MOO

ETA: Oops, responded to wrong post. I meant to respond to the post upthread that mentioned certain HLN posters who thought Travis deserved to die.
 
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Is that the woman that testified yesterday? Look at JA's completely empty eyes compared to a normal person, striking. (from http://www.myspace.com/jodiarias/photos/19541028 )
 
Tell him we're your "peeps", and we "have your back". Then tell him he'll be required to perform certain "duties" like "crime re enactment", making dinner during "verdict watch", and most importantly.... Hold you while you cry for the victims.

:floorlaugh:
 
Amazing how many errors the talking heads on tv make about this case. Sad part is some people believe everything they see on tv.
 
http://www.hlntv.com/slideshow/2012/10/05/jodi-arias-killer-or-victim

Amazing how many people posting there think he deserved it. DAMN!!!

Do we even have proof they had sex? We assume they had sex by what she is saying and what he wrote but there is no real evidence they actually had sex from what I have read. I would think if they did she would have had more control over him threatening to use it against him with the church.

If she had no problem killing him I don't see a problem with blackmailing him. But, then again, that may be how she got his car. And it may also have something to do with him not reporting her breaking into the house. She could have had him over a barrel whether it was true or not.

I don't think they had sex the night she was there because she would have made sure she got a picture of him. Pictures she took prove nothing other than they were naked.

It is so unfair to accuse a victim without proof when they cannot speak up for themselves.
 
I could see it happening either way (the sequence)

and I am not sure why the state put such emphasis on the sequence. It does not matter imhoo.. she killed him three times over. Three fatal wounds:

1) slit the man's throat almost cutting off his head
2) stab to the heart
3) gun shot to the frontal lobe

oh wait.. even four times over:

4) 27 stab wounds that could cause him to bleed to death

i guess they felt they had to because the defense is saying 'hey, he was shot in the head. no biggie on the rest---he didn't suffer.'

i think that's why they feel it's so important but i'm coming around to thinking it DID happen that way, but he was far from dead after he was shot and suffered a terrible, terrible death.
 
I'm also live in a small Texas town, population 1,489 LOL! Our crappy paper comes out once a week filled with crime news and religious news. Thank goodness for Websleuths because without Websleuths and the internet I would not know what is happening in the USA or the world.

As a side note, my rather immature husband and I had an argument the other day and he actually told me all I ever do is watch the JA trial and read Websleuths! The nerve!

I got that earlier this week too! I said... "You DO know this case is about a girl who brutally murdered her boyfriend, don't you? lol He said... "Dont be getting no ideas." HAHA
 
Regarding the sequence once again:

The only way I can make sense of the totality of the wounds is if the ME is off on his opinion that the gunshot wound would have immediately rendered Travis unconscious and unable to defend himself. Even the ME says he does not have complete information because he can't track the bullet through the brain. There's no testimony about what functions are controlled in that part of the brain or why it would necessarily have immediately incapacitated Travis completely.

The other factors that support the gunshot being first are:

1. The shot was downward traveling from Travis' right brow down to his left cheek from at least 2-3 feet away. (ME testimony and pics). This was exactly the relative positions of Travis and Jodi in the last "alive" picture of Travis in the shower 44 seconds before the camera dropped.

2. At no time after the throat wound would Travis have been in a sitting up position that could have led to the path of the projectile from right brow to left cheek unless Jodi was laying on the floor shooting him...an outlandish scenario.

3. The shot could not have been made in the position Travis was found in the shower, so if he was shot after death in the bathroom/shower, Jodi would have had to again reposition his body in the shower after she shot him.

4. Jodi brought the gun with her and all the evidence indicates that she went with the intention of shooting Travis. Reason and logic say that shooting him would have been her first attempt to kill him. In one of her interviews she said that if she killed Travis she would have kept shooting him til he was dead -- and I think that was her intention, but the gun jammed and she had to resort to other "less humane" means. She worked the gun jam into her story during her 48 Hours interview, claiming the gun man tried to shoot her but the gun jammed so she could escape. IMO she was drawing on her actual experiences and observations when coming up with these stories so as to try to make them believable.

5. ME testified that the trajectory of the bullet could have caused blood to enter mouth and nose. This fits the blood spray and patterns around the sink which cannot really be explained any other way -- stabbing in the heart would not cause that kind of spray and would not cause blood in mouth and nose. Although I do think there was some testimony that the patterns could have been caused by Travis being stabbed while he was positioned at the sink.

6. Finally, although we cannot take any of Jodi's statements as the truth, I believe that her account of the intruders was her way to telling pretty accurately what happened to Travis. She wanted to make it believable so she gave an account that she actually believed could have happened -- i.e. Travis being shot and still surviving and able to lift himself up on all fours. To make it as believable as possible, I think she relied on what she actually observed as reality ..Travis was shot and was badly injured but did not die or lose consciousness. She left out the stabbing to the heart and throat slice because she wanted to claim he was still alive when she left.

The only thing that was holding me back from believing in this sequence was the ME's testimony. But there are so many other factors that support him being shot first, and after listening to the ME testimony again, it's not as conclusive as I thought. In fact, he first says that the head would would have "likely" been incapacitating "rapidly" (not immediately). So I conclude that the ME made a mistake with his opinion about the sequence. The fact that the shell casing had no blood does not bother me at all -- Jodi poured water over stuff, and it could have been kicked around or cleared from the gun after the fact.
 
Do we even have proof they had sex? We assume they had sex by what she is saying and what he wrote but there is no real evidence they actually had sex from what I have read. I would think if they did she would have had more control over him threatening to use it against him with the church.

If she had no problem killing him I don't see a problem with blackmailing him. But, then again, that may be how she got his car. And it may also have something to do with him not reporting her breaking into the house. She could have had him over a barrel whether it was true or not.

I don't think they had sex the night she was there because she would have made sure she got a picture of him. Pictures she took prove nothing other than they were naked.

It is so unfair to accuse a victim without proof when they cannot speak up for themselves.
Thats exactly the point I was trying to make the other day about the media (and others) calling them sex pics. They most certainly are not sex pics, they are nude pics.
 
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