The State Rests in the State v Jodi Arias: break in trial until 28 January 2013 #10

[Linda7NJ]

No, but that's my point. I had my heart broken by a guy who I KNEW was playing me. And I sure cried a lot and still got all happy when he would send me sweet cards it call me, even though I KNEW he was a s**t! But I never once thought about killing him.

HOWEVER, what if a juror had our same experience, and fleetingly entertained the thought of stalking or hurting the other person? Even if they never acted on it? Might it skew the way they view this case?

And if so, how much of the info on which they base their opinion will come from the DT's case, and how much from the info they will most likely be exposed to during this non-sequestered break?

MOO, but this trial should have been speedier, with a sequestered jury.

Speedier? They can't keep up now!


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[LambChop]

Again, who is going to get up and testify that TA was a player. Breaking up with someone means you no longer are with that person and free to date whomever. What proof is there he was asking her over when we find she admits to having his passwords and could easily log on as him to send her messages. If she killed him in her home that would be another story but she drove hundreds of miles, trying to conceal those miles, to see him. If he asked her to come why was she hiding where she was going? If that isn't stalking I do not know what is. Any juror can figure that out. jmo

 

[FrayedKnot]

But what IF Travis dated a hundred other girls and was pursuing them all but only sleeping with Jodi because she was so easy? She could have said no! He was a man. Doesn't make him deserving of death!

Well, I don't think any juror would think he deserved death, either.

My worry was that they may decide for a lesser charge depending on what the DT spins and also the span of time since the PT's evidence being presented.

But I do have to ask why only the woman is "easy"? It takes two to tango.

Otherwise it is rape, and that would be a whole new set of charges against JA.

 

[LotusPawprint]

All she has to do is say she saw some juror do or say something and she's made a point for an appeal. I see this mother not as involved in her daughter's life like Cindy Anthony or Darlie Kee were. I'm not trying to be mean spirited, but I'd hate to think how much trouble and expense Jodi's mom or aunt can cause to "help" Jodi.

True. Hopefully this Judge is thorough and covers all basis for a potential appeal. Unfortunately we don't know what the mother alleges and we didn't hear the questioning of the jurors about the potential misconduct. I'm sure the Judge would dismiss involved juror(s) if there was a possibility of misconduct, Judges don't want these cases to be overturned anymore than the rest of us do.

 

[BritsKate]

It might just be that I've become emotionally invested and actually think I would have liked Travis so I might just be biased.

I think there's a really big difference between a player and someone who's charming and charismatic. He doesn't seem to have been a really selfish or thoughtless person to read accounts of him. JMO

 

[dgfred]

Well, there Is an advantage for us in having seen every square inch of her body just a short time before he was killed......and there is not a mark on it. Where is the violence? She will have a difficult time proving that, knowing those photos are out ther.

Well they have already mentioned him getting angry and 'pushing' her. They will say it was only mental torture up to that point... no bruising yet.

The lawyers probably looked over the pics over those two years and are now getting her to say that the 'eyes' picture was right before he got mad... then he attacked her but a knife/gun just happened to be handy. She brought the gun for protection... it was in her sweatpants. Or a knife was in the bathroom, or some other nonsense. They have to explain her in the pic with him laying there. I see no other way.


But we have seen alot of her... and maybe since she couldn't get him in his sleep she was just setting up her picture session to catch him off guard.

If she threw away the camera she didn't want the pics... so they were for another reason. Surely hers.

 

[Love Never Fails]

No, but that's my point. I had my heart broken by a guy who I KNEW was playing me. And I sure cried a lot and still got all happy when he would send me sweet cards it call me, even though I KNEW he was a s**t! But I never once thought about killing him.

HOWEVER, what if a juror had our same experience, and fleetingly entertained the thought of stalking or hurting the other person? Even if they never acted on it? Might it skew the way they view this case?

And if so, how much of the info on which they base their opinion will come from the DT's case, and how much from the info they will most likely be exposed to during this non-sequestered break?

MOO, but this trial should have been speedier, with a sequestered jury.

I see what you are saying. But a juror who might have been at one time a potential stalker? Thoughts of killing? How scary is that? I hope not!

 

[Linda7NJ]

Well, I don't think any juror would think he deserved death, either.

My worry was that they may decide for a lesser charge depending on what the DT spins and also the span of time since the PT's evidence being presented.

But I do have to ask why only the woman is "easy"? It takes two to tango.

Otherwise it is rape, and that would be a whole new set of charges against JA.

I see absolutely nothing freakish about them being butt buddies, friends with benefits, whatever you want to call it. They're single. I don't care what anyone does consensually sexually behind doors as long as its legal.

Slaughter isn't legal


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[Laceybug]

Very cool! We were all trying dying to read those receipts! Do you have a link to copies?
Welcome to Websleuths ... Excellent first post!

http://s193.beta.photobucket.com/user/disneymom69/library/Jodi%20arias%20trial%20screenshots

Here is a link to a library of pictures. LOTS of them.... Most (if not all) of the receipts are in this library as well as the pics of her grandparents place where the gun was taken from. Only the 25 was taken along with a VCR or DVD player and a Stereo. There was a lot of change on top of a counter that wasnt taken.... Why wouldnt ALL of the guns be taken? Doesnt make sense... except for in JA's head.

 

[PrincessSezMe]

Wow.
I'm really sorry I asked. I simply thought maybe there was an interesting interview or something I hadn't read about JA's past.
And I'm sorry I provided a link to what info I knew about diagnosing psychopathy - didn't know it would get me treated like this.
I can see I'm not welcome here.

I did not see the post that made you feel like this! I've never seen anything here but warm welcomes for new posters. I'm in awe of the people who comment here, and the moderators are the best I've ever seen on any blog.

I hope you stick around for a while. :seeya:

 

[kscornfed]

I've been thinking about the charge and the lack of lesser included charges. I wonder if that's a mistake but I think the state is very confident in their case and do not believe the crime is anything but 1st degree murder. I'm guessing they don't want a jury to have any other options to compromise on and I can understand that as I don't think anything else is appropriate.

I heard Beth say there ARE lesser includeds. I paid close attention too. Is that wrong?

 

[ILikeToBendPages]

You hAve to nag her more! My dad is the only reason I always have emergency cash! The same $100 has been in my wallet for over two years now!


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Back in the day, my father would give us a dime in case we needed to make a phone call when we went out on a date. That was in 1967 and phone booths were easy to find. That made me always have some cash on hand just in case.

 

[Linda7NJ]

http://s193.beta.photobucket.com/user/disneymom69/library/Jodi arias trial screenshots

Here is a link to a library of pictures. LOTS of them.... Most (if not all) of the receipts are in this library as well as the pics of her grandparents place where the gun was taken from. Only the 25 was taken along with a VCR or DVD player and a Stereo. There was a lot of change on top of a counter that wasnt taken.... Why wouldnt ALL of the guns be taken? Doesnt make sense... except for in JA's head.

Oh THANK YOU!


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[LambChop]

No, but that's my point. I had my heart broken by a guy who I KNEW was playing me. And I sure cried a lot and still got all happy when he would send me sweet cards it call me, even though I KNEW he was a s**t! But I never once thought about killing him.

HOWEVER, what if a juror had our same experience, and fleetingly entertained the thought of stalking or hurting the other person? Even if they never acted on it? Might it skew the way they view this case?

And if so, how much of the info on which they base their opinion will come from the DT's case, and how much from the info they will most likely be exposed to during this non-sequestered break?

MOO, but this trial should have been speedier, with a sequestered jury.

People who would think like that often do not see themselves in others. JA's trip to Utah to seduce the other young man kind of kills the theory of crime of passion where she would be remorseful afterwards. Mr. Burns felt she was quite bubbly in her conversations with him on her way to Utah after she killed TA. That just is not normal. jmo

 

[Laceybug]

I don't have a link. I think it was when Prosecutor was showing the receipts on the projector. You could catch glimpses of what was purchased. I can't remember if I read it or saw it on tv. I'll try to figure it out.

http://s193.beta.photobucket.com/user/disneymom69/library/Jodi%20arias%20trial%20screenshots

Posted this before... but thought I'd post it again in case someone missed it. The reciepts are in this library. Some of the pics seem to be scattered so anyone who hasnt been following the trial might be a little lost on some of the pics...

 

[FrayedKnot]

Again, who is going to get up and testify that TA was a player. Breaking up with someone means you no longer are with that person and free to date whomever. What proof is there he was asking her over when we find she admits to having his passwords and could easily log on as him to send her messages. If she killed him in her home that would be another story but she drove hundreds of miles, trying to conceal those miles, to see him. If he asked her to come why was she hiding where she was going? If that isn't stalking I do not know what is. Any juror can figure that out. jmo

I thought they announced the 48 Hours show was going to be allowed?

Didn't his friend and his friend's wife say words to the effect that TA was definitely seeing several women and the wife said she thought TA was wrong in continuing the sex with JA. And they loved TA and were not condemning him or blaming him.

And there were the text messages sent the week before his murder to JA asking for naughty pics.

Of COURSE she murdered him. Of COURSE she stalked him (harder to prove in court), but whether he allowed her in and had consensual sex with her that last day is a little ambiguous and might influence jurors.

Just because I think jurors might have some doubts does not mean I think JA is in any way innocent! I am just positing what the jury might process.

It's getting kind of scary to have an opinion in here.

 

[Linda7NJ]

Back in the day, my father would give us a dime in case we needed to make a phone call when we went out on a date. That was in 1967 and phone booths were easy to find. That made me always have some cash on hand just in case.

I almost used that money while Christmas shopping this year. I heard my dads voice in my head warning me not to, in case there was an emergency!




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[Linda7NJ]

People who would think like that often do not see themselves in others. JA's trip to Utah to seduce the other young man kind of kills the theory of crime of passion where she would be remorseful afterwards. Mr. Burns felt she was quite bubbly in her conversations with him on her way to Utah after she killed TA. That just is not normal. jmo

The dry humping doesn't help either


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[LotusPawprint]

I was reviewing this on my own earlier as a refresher:

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Just a good reminder to be respectful to our mods and fellow posters.

 

[Love Never Fails]

Well, I don't think any juror would think he deserved death, either.

My worry was that they may decide for a lesser charge depending on what the DT spins and also the span of time since the PT's evidence being presented.

But I do have to ask why only the woman is "easy"? It takes two to tango.

Otherwise it is rape, and that would be a whole new set of charges against JA.

I was only comparing Jodi to the other "Mormon" women. Maybe behind closed doors, they are all that way? Doesn't matter anyway.