The State v. Jodi Arias: break in trial until 28 January 2013 #13 *ADULT CONTENT*

[LambChop]

I'm thinking it's Lisa. She was not on the defense list and defense accused Martinez of withholding exculpatory evidence because the State did not call her as a witness. jmo

 

[popsicle]

Judge ruled with PT on felony murder. She has yet to hear about prosecutorial misconduct. That will be on Monday. DP eligibility stands.

The misconduct charge related to txt msgs was thrown out.

 

[oceanblueeyes]

Judge ruled with PT on felony murder. She has yet to hear about prosecutorial misconduct. That will be on Monday. DP eligibility stands.

Are you sure? I thought that Beth Karas said she ruled against the defense on the prosecutorial misconduct.

IMO

 

[katiecoolady]

:floorlaugh: I spent part of the afternoon at physical therapy today and they had me do that 'over the back of the chair' maneuver. I had a little giggle over that. They wanted to know what was funny and I told them that it was looooong story. I must say, it bore very little resemblance to Jodi's stretch, I'm old, overweight with a bad neck, which made if funnier...or stranger.

OMG that is classic. Was there a video camera on you by chance? We could all make our own videos of the "jailbird stretch" and send them to Vinnie. :floorlaugh::floorlaugh::floorlaugh:

 

[popsicle]

I have no idea about American prisons, but in Canada, people sentenced to 2 years or more are sent to fEderal prison, lesser sentences land you in Provincial prison.

Here if you are sentenced to year or more it is prison, less is jail and conviction of a federal crime is federal prison. I believe

 

[katiecoolady]

Are you sure? I thought that Beth Karas said she ruled against the defense on the prosecutorial misconduct.

IMO

Beth did say that. But which one? I think they've argued that just about daily over some thing or another.

 

[Love Never Fails]

So is this about prosecution not sharing TA's text messages?

No one knows for sure what this is about. DT isn't saying. Nor are they saying why Gus Searcy was called to be their witness for Monday's hearing. We all want to know.

 

[Really?]

A couple of questions I'd like to hear Juan Martinez ask Alyce LaViolette, the expert witne$$ on domestic violence:

1. In your expert opinion, do you find that stalking behavior occurs more often in abusers or abusees?

2. Do you believe that Jodi Arias had no alternative to violence that day when she stabbed unarmed and naked Travis Alexander 29 times, nearly decaptitated him and shot him in the face? Do you want this jury to believe that this was her only alternative in that situation? Is this something you would teach in your Seminar?

Lol. I thanked your post as soon as I saw the "$" symbols lol

 

[katiecoolady]

Does this mean they are going to have to find her guilty of First Degree Murder OR Felony Murder?

They are both First Degree (Felony Murder or Premeditated Homicide). Both qualify for the DP. They can agree on the First Degree but be split on the Felony or Premed. I found that really interesting. It was be appealed ad nauseum "mark my words".

 

[polleypockets]

I have no idea about American prisons, but in Canada, people sentenced to 2 years or more are sent to fEderal prison, lesser sentences land you in Provincial prison.

it depends on the state - out here in california they passed a new law that now it depends on the crime whether you are sent to federal prison - so they keep non violent felons in county for the entire time - dr conrad murray is serving his entire sentence for killing MJ in county - and because of this a lot are being let out early because of over crowding in the county prisons (which means they don't have probation - or officers to follow their progress)

 

[BritsKate]

Does this mean they are going to have to find her guilty of First Degree Murder OR Felony Murder?

It means they don't all have to agree on premeditation to secure a conviction for 1st degree murder. (She's charged with two counts of 1st degree, felony and premeditated.)

3 jurors could believe she is guilty of premeditated murder while the other 9 think she's guilty of felony murder...as opposed to all 12 having to agree guilt to just one charge.

 

[katiecoolady]

Lol. I thanked your post as soon as I saw the "$" symbols lol

Thank you for noticing. I've been working that angle for a couple days now.

 

[Love Never Fails]

Are you sure? I thought that Beth Karas said she ruled against the defense on the prosecutorial misconduct.

IMO

Yes. I am sure.

 

[oceanblueeyes]

Beth did say that. But which one? I think they've argued that just about daily over some thing or another.

Well the mistrial was based on the alledged prosecutor's misconduct and she ruled against the mistrial using those defense arguments.

Judge Sherry Stephens says Jodi Arias’ trial isn't getting thrown out -- and the felony murder charge against her isn’t going away either.

Stephens denied the defense’s second motion for a mistrial, along with a motion to throw out the felony murder charge.

The defense moved for a mistrial, based on prosecutorial misconduct, claiming Juan Martinez failed to turn over text messages from the cell phone of Arias' murdered ex-boyfriend Travis Alexander.

http://www.hlntv.com/article/2013/01/24/arias-judge-denies-defense-motion-mistrial

 

[Jax49]

I bet ya $1 the DV expert will bring it up though.

Also, people keep saying she texted a woman from TAs phone, but she didn't. Rather, she thought about it and then backed off. Just clarifying...

VELEZ-MITCHELL: And in one of her online conversations with this new boy toy, Ryan, Jodi admits secretly going through Travis`s phone. On it she finds the number of a woman she thinks Travis is secretly dating while still having sex with her. Listen to what she decides to do next.

BURNS: "I decided to text her back, quote, `Time to cuddle with Jodi. Good night.` Then I deleted the message, went to sleep, and never mentioned it to him. One day while he was taking a nap, I took his phone and read his text messages. Bad, I know."

http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/1301/09/ijvm.01.html

Judge ruled with PT on felony murder. She has yet to hear about prosecutorial misconduct. That will be on Monday. DP eligibility stands.

I though the judge ruled with the PT on both motions. The one on Monday is a new prosecutorial misconduct allegation, I believe.

 

[atthelake]

I just finished watching the Letter to Zachary link that folks keep reposting on here the last twwo days. Fist time I have watched a movie on my ook, and had me bawling so much. Thanks for the tears and those folks who keep repeating the link! It is so worth taking 90 minutes to see that and off the threads for it.


Back to regularly scheduled programming!

 

[oceanblueeyes]

Yes. I am sure.

Oh ok........I thought BK said she ruled that the prosecutor had not committed prosecutorial misconduct and that is why she ruled against the defense when they asked for a mistrial using this reason.

IMO

 

[oceanblueeyes]

I though the judge ruled with the PT on both motions. The one on Monday is a new prosecutorial misconduct allegation, I believe.

Oh now I understand.

Thanks

 

[Love Never Fails]

Well the mistrial was based on the alledged prosecutor's misconduct and she ruled against the mistrial using those defense arguments.

Judge Sherry Stephens says Jodi Arias’ trial isn't getting thrown out -- and the felony murder charge against her isn’t going away either.

Stephens denied the defense’s second motion for a mistrial, along with a motion to throw out the felony murder charge.

The defense moved for a mistrial, based on prosecutorial misconduct, claiming Juan Martinez failed to turn over text messages from the cell phone of Arias' murdered ex-boyfriend Travis Alexander.

http://www.hlntv.com/article/2013/01/24/arias-judge-denies-defense-motion-mistrial

Two different hearings altogether. There is one on Monday, Jan 28th for prosecutorial misconduct and Gus Searcy, who knew TA, has been called in to testify. This will be televised. The last call by DT for prosecutorial misconduct, several days ago, was thrown out by the judge.

 

[katiecoolady]

I just finished watching the Letter to Zachary link that folks keep reposting on here the last twwo days. Fist time I have watched a movie on my ook, and had me bawling so much. Thanks for the tears and those folks who keep repeating the link! It is so worth taking 90 minutes to see that and off the threads for it.


Back to regularly scheduled programming!

Sorry for the sadness but glad you saw it.

For you and others, here is the FB page on it. The filmmaker does appreciate the feedback and that people are viewing it and he does see the Bagbys regularly.

https://www.facebook.com/dearzachary?ref=ts&fref=ts