The State v. Jodi Arias: break in trial until 28 January 2013 #16 *ADULT CONTENT*

[katiecoolady]

Looking at the "bikini" shot of Gus, compared to the profile picture, if it's the same woman in both (his wife?) then she also went from blond to brunette.

 

[jellybeanz]

Who does the inmate say that to?

Nancy Grace

 

[nursebeeme]

How would the prosecutor factually know who was in a car with someone?

1) depo and testimony from that person

2) cell records

3) eye witness accounts

 

[kwmred]

Thank you for the link to the minutes (sorry right now not sure who posted it). I may be late on this info but interesting to note, the defense dropped their objection to the State's motion to preclude the (forged) emails in the line before they were actually precluded.

So why is Nurmi NOW indicating,even outside the presence of the jury, that they could be valid. Hmmmm...something's not right here.:waitasec:

I think he was trying to get CH to say that he believed TA might have written those letters.

 

[callyn]

Well I'm still behind.

While reading the trial thread I noticed a few pics of Jodi. To Jodi's defense attorneys, if you are reading here, please tell Jodi that the glasses make her nose look really weird and big. Kind of like the weird, big nose on a Mr Potato Head.

Just trying to help. :seeya:

Her nose has always reminded me of the nose of a Proboscis monkey.
It's not long and hangy but for some reason, that is what I see.:crazy:

 

[BritsKate]

Hello Britskate,
I've been meaning to ask you something since you had the unfortunate experience of being associated with a past abuser.

First, I am very sorry you had to deal with that and so glad that part of your life is over and you survived it.

My question is related to verbal abuse only. Since the defense is going to claim some form of abuse by Travis and let us assume that they somehow are able to claim that verbal abuse occurred but not physical, I just dont see how this could help the defense in any way because of Jodi's murdering of him?

I had always assumed that if someone is going to claim some sort of self defense and taking a life, they would have to prove that their life was in danger and I just dont see how a claim of verbal abuse can help their case.

You may or may not know the answer to this, but thought I would ask. You dont have to answer if you dont want to as I realize this is a complicated question. I doubt the defense will be able to prove much of anything anyway at the rate they are going.

No worries, Hatfield. I'll try but there are lots of posters here much more eloquent.

In recent years, fortunately, verbal and psychological/emotional abuse are becoming much more understood as being detrimental. Years ago this just wasn't the case. (I had to fight tooth and nail for a restraining order because my abuse, while having physical overtones like threatening me with a gun, wasn't actually physically abusive in terms of battery.)

Calling someone a name is verbal abuse. Emotional abuse is a lengthy process of eroding someone's self worth using verbal abuse (among many other tactics) and this I believe is what they will claim - if they don't try for physical as well.

There are many abuse survivors and DV experts who have stated emotional abuse is at least as detrimental and destructive as physical abuse. Jodi's defense could make the claim that emotional abuse very often escalates to physical violence (it does) and having a history of abuse Jodi did fear Travis. (I feared my ex greatly but he never hit me. I just always believed he would as it was a constant threat.)

The Michelle Young case is a very classic example of how quickly an emotionally abusive relationship can become lethal. Having never hit her before Jason Young beat his pregnant wife to death. She'd only recently had her first appointment with a counselor who had to tell her that her marriage was verbally abusive. As is very common with victims of EA Michelle was seeking therapy to work on herself and what she perceived were her issues/problems.

HTH

 

[princesspjs]

Are we allowed to discuss the Jodi Arias Is Innocent website?

I was looking for information on the witness lists and came across the poster CJ. After reading many of her posts and looking at her avatar picture...could it be....the Other One? Perhaps she's trying out a little of that paralegal work.

 

[princesspjs]

double post.

 

[minor4th]

Now reviewing Gus' portion where he is hesitant about writing down the name of the other person in the car. This is not as egregious as I thought. Gus was just asking what happens if he declines. The judge took the hearing private and explained to him what would happen, and he decided that he would go ahead and do what he was ordered to do. Gus was actually not really belligerent during this exchange either -- hesitant and ill-informed about the legal process, yes.

 

[Sulamith]

Originally Posted by Sulamith
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BBM Good thought, but his testicles were also red.

I responded to this as being a professional photographer currently. In low light situations, as was the lighting in the house that day, some things appear red, or orange. This is what I am pretty sure is happening in these photos.

I remember when you posted that. I thought it was so strange that it was only those parts of him that were so dark and the rest of him was pretty light. But, I know nothing about photography.

 

[popsicle]

I agree. If the defense has an expert that says the letter could have been written by TA, why not let that expert speak? If they have a "reputable" expert, why isn't it allowed in?

JMHO

Mel

writing experts already determined that the handwriting was not Travis'

 

[Carol2]

Hey! Just noticed that Thursday has been added to the docket. So upcoming schedule (that we know of) is:

Wednesday, January 30 - Trial - 10:30 local time (12:30 Eastern)
Thursday, January 31 - Trial - 10:30 local time (12:30 Eastern)
Wednesday, February 13 - Hearing - 1:30 local time (3:30 Eastern)

 

[gitana1]

I'm just now watching the beginning trial today. Why was did the court and the prosecution allow the morning to be wasted with a PPL infomercial?

 

[katiecoolady]

I think he was trying to get CH to say that he believed TA might have written those letters.

But why when they will never be presented to the jury? Esp when it wasn't just that they argued and were ruled against. They dropped the whole thing themselves. Nurmi...when he was with Victoria Washington before she bailed. It's my understanding she walked off the case because of these forged letters.

 

[KMouse]

I responded to this as being a professional photographer currently. In low light situations, as was the lighting in the house that day, some things appear red, or orange. This is what I am pretty sure is happening in these photos.

I totally agree.

 

[katiecoolady]

Hey! Just noticed that Thursday has been added to the docket. So upcoming schedule (that we know of) is:

Wednesday, January 30 - Trial - 10:30 local time (12:30 Eastern)
Thursday, January 31 - Trial - 10:30 local time (12:30 Eastern)
Wednesday, February 13 - Hearing - 1:30 local time (3:30 Eastern)

Awesome...my schedule is Wed afternoon and Thursday morning. Wish me luck getting in!

 

[katiecoolady]

Now reviewing Gus' portion where he is hesitant about writing down the name of the other person in the car. This is not as egregious as I thought. Gus was just asking what happens if he declines. The judge took the hearing private and explained to him what would happen, and he decided that he would go ahead and do what he was ordered to do. Gus was actually not really belligerent during this exchange either -- hesitant and ill-informed about the legal process, yes.

What I saw was cut off so I never saw what he ended up doing. So he did in fact follow the Judge's order and write down this name? Wonder if we will see someone new on the witness list now

 

[nursebeeme]

I'm just now watching the beginning trial today. Why was did the court and the prosecution allow the morning to be wasted with a PPL infomercial?

it was the OPENING of their CIC! omg can you imagine?

 

[norest4thewicked]

Originally Posted by Sulamith
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BBM Good thought, but his testicles were also red.




I remember when you posted that. I thought it was so strange that it was only those parts of him that were so dark and the rest of him was pretty light. But, I know nothing about photography.

It has to do with white balance and digital noise. But, at the risk of going extremely off topic here, I will not go into all of the nuances. I'm not familiar with the photo you are speaking of, but for one thing, testicles are not as light as skin on your body. They usually have a reddish/brown tone to them anyway.

Here is a link if you want to know more. I don't really want to bring that topic to this thread.

http://www.wikihow.com/Avoid-Noise-in-Your-Digital-Photography

 

[Carol2]

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Since I'm at the top of the pyramid, I get the first boob-job. But since you all will be in on the ground floor---you can expext to be Executive Directors soon!

If I make it in 90 days, can I get a big lapel pin?