The State v. Jodi Arias: break in trial until 28 January 2013 #19 *ADULT CONTENT*

[m00c0w]

I am going in............

Spelunking

 

[Sulamith]

This may not sound that serious(I get it) but really I really would like to know what is wrong with the judge? Is she having a few sips(In camera)? Odd! Very Odd! JMO :shush:

IMO, she sometimes looks like she is daydreaming, or getting sleepy. One day, she reminded me of a parakeet I had. My bird would close, open it's eyes, trying to not fall asleep on it's perch. (That was written terribly, too tired to fix up)

 

[2door73chevy]

After reading a few more pages of response to THAT photo, the ayes have it that it isn't Travis' penis. So who knows where it will all lead.

However, what we do know is Jodi is off to her cell for a long weekend thinking of THAT photo, as she seeks comfort with her 'girlfriend' whenever she can make contact.
Girlfriend is in commas, because we all know this relationship has manipulation at the top of the list as far as her needs are concerned.

It makes me MAD AS HELL, that JA can move on have and relationships with men or women and Travis will never live to marry or have a family, like he wanted.:furious:

 

[LambChop]

I think that they're just throwing chit at the wall. The same way Baez did. It makes me very uncomfortable; particularly because the judge allowed it today without admonishing or explaining. I've seen what that can lead to and it makes me very uncomfortable.

This man received these drives in 2012. Police forensics had already looked at it. So I can't imagine JM does not know what is on them and that is why he called the tech on it saying he did not have the expertise to determine where the hard drive originated. I'm guessing but JM never ceases to amaze me. jmo

 

[PrincessSezMe]

It's a Nancy Grace thang...

Yeah like Jinkasaurus

 

[popsicle]

I am going in............

ETA - oh wow...."going in"....I did not word that well....wow~

:floorlaugh: You need hazmat gear

 

[A_News_Junkie]

She can't control a witness's behavior. There would have to be willful conduct for her to get sanctioned.

IMHO her behavior was very willful and blatant. As for the witness, I have watched many a trial and seen many an attorney instruct the witness if they can identify the item without showing it. (In case of objection)

In KC trial, the attorneys on all sides were very careful not to show photos of Caylee's remains and did on several occasions ask them to review the item without disclosing it.

BTW - I don't think she can be sanctioned for what the witness did - but her prancing with them for all the jury, gallery etc to see was very unbecoming an officer of the court - IMHO. (Current value of my opinion is about :twocents: ) ((and I do exaggerate sometimes!))

 

[ohiogirl]

Crap, I turn away for 1 minute, and something happens!

So they found a picture of someone's penis on a hard drive (where did that come from?) that seemed to be from a laptop computer?

Whose laptop?

Who cares about a penis picture? Does it have some moles or tattoos to identify it? Why does anyone care or what does this indicate?

Sorry, you turn away for the tiniest bit and completely miss the point of something!

Is there a "point" to this testimony? If so, I missed it.

 

[Pensfan]

I'm way behind in the threads, but I had to bump this up as I so disagree with you. Family environment has never been found to be a catalyst for psychopathy. Eric Harris is a perfect example - upper middle class kid who was well looked after all of his life. Despite the myths around Columbine he was never really an outcast, and was never bullied any more than any other kid in a High School environment. How about Joran van der Sloot? Was HE abused in any way? No. These are budding psychopaths who if anything were spoiled and given way too much privilege without earning it. Hmmm, kinda sounds like a Florida convict that we all know too.

Psychopaths are born with a brain that is different from ours. Using MRI's to map out how their brain is different is a science that is still in it's infancy. I can't remember the doctor's name, but there is a doctor who opened a clinic (I think in Nevada? not sure now), who travels to the various prisons in a portable MRI unit and does brain scans of the most likely candidates in the prison to be psychopaths. His findings are very interesting. I'll try to find it if I can and post the link if it's allowed.

Read the article written by the famous Ph.D. neuroscientist.
http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=127888976

Although I could post several dozen studies showing the positive correlation between childhood abuse and psychopathy, here are just a few. Know that it is highly correlated.
http://riskreduction.soceco.uci.edu...on_and_psychopathy_in_an_offender_sample1.pdf
http://commons.pacificu.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?article=1233&context=spp
http://psyc.uno.edu/Frick Lab/articles/DP 2012 Kimonis Secondary Psychopathy.pdf
http://escholarship.umassmed.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?article=1384&context=psych_cmhsr
http://acumen.lib.ua.edu/content/u0015/0000001/0001055/u0015_0000001_0001055.pdf

Eric's family has never spoken publicly about their family life. How do you know he wasn't abused?

How do you know Joran van der Sloot wasn't abused? Because his mother states that he wasn't?

Pensfan
verified psychiatric mental health nurse

 

[Boodles]

Of course. If the pics were not allowed to be admitted she (the judge) should have made that abundantly clear to the jury before releasing them to three days of thought. She didn't handle the situation at all. Maybe the peen picks freaked her out? Just not acceptable for her to have simply closed up shop on this.

MOO

Maybe she had a hair or mani-pedi appointment. It doesn't seem this trial is much of a priority to her. She is not in control. The attorneys have to help her constantly, e.g., Nurmi saying: "maybe Gus should have an attorney" and whoever requesting that the witnesses not discuss or view media coverage. She's just awful!

 

[Pink Panther]

Read the article written by the famous Ph.D. neuroscientist.
http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=127888976

Although I could post several dozen studies showing the positive correlation between childhood abuse and psychopathy, here are just a few. Know that it is highly correlated.
http://riskreduction.soceco.uci.edu...on_and_psychopathy_in_an_offender_sample1.pdf
http://commons.pacificu.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?article=1233&context=spp
http://psyc.uno.edu/Frick Lab/articles/DP 2012 Kimonis Secondary Psychopathy.pdf
http://escholarship.umassmed.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?article=1384&context=psych_cmhsr
http://acumen.lib.ua.edu/content/u0015/0000001/0001055/u0015_0000001_0001055.pdf

Eric's family has never publicly spoken publicly about their family life. How do you know he wasn't abused?

How do you know Joran van der Sloot wasn't abused? Because his mother states that he wasn't?

Pensfan
verified psychiatric mental health nurse

Abuse can also = neglect. Doesn't have to mean physical abuse.

MOO

 

[KPinMN]

Does anyone remember if the autopsy report states whether or not Travis was circumcised?

http://cnninsession.files.wordpress.com/2012/10/redactedtravisautopsy.pdf

EDIT: It only says that "the external genitalia are those of [a] normal male".

Being in the medical field I would expect the autopsy report to say "the external genitalia are those of [a] CIRCUMCISED normal male". My view may be slightly skewed since I do work in Urology, so that's pertinent in our office.

Also a note on the same general subject:
That is NOT a fully erect penis, it appears to be partially erect as evidenced by the curvature at the base of the penis. They only way an adult penis would have such a curvature at the base when erect would be if they had a fairly severe case of Peyronie's disease (plaque(s) usually of the tunica albuginea most commonly caused by trauma to the penis such as fracture, the plaque(s) cause the penis to curve abnormally when erect). Not that it actually matters, since an erect penis really has nothing to do with the case, but I figured for the sake of accuracy I would point that out.

 

[2door73chevy]

IMO the penis in question seems to be being fondled and rubbed ever so lightly up and down against the hip or upper thigh of a lighter skinned person.

Ahem, um...err... that's just IMO at first glance though. :blushing:

ETA: There is no movement in the photo...I was only speculating.

IMO, JMO, MOO

Thanks....:blushing:

 

[lonetraveler]

I have no earthly idea. I certainly don't think they're going to say in their closing testimony, "Remember those two pictures? Jodi Arias killed him because of those."

I think whatever the reason revolves around the big picture they're building (or at least attempting to build) about sexuality and "abusive" behavior.

BBM: Attempting to build is the key phrase here. Unless they reveal a "smoking gun" there has been so evidence to suggest abusive behavior. JMO.

 

[Apparition]

I have been following this trial from the start. My work monitors internet activity so I can not watch it live, but I do read this forum to keep me up to date on my phone until I can get home and watch the you tube of the days events. Ty for all who post and those that actually go to the trial, this is a very informative forum.
I do have a question:
I keep hearing Jodi confessed to the murder, but I only saw her lies about not being there and the nijas did it. Did she not confess on video or paper? Did she only confess to her lawyers so that is why I did not see it? I thought for sure the confession would be put out in some way to the jury. Did I miss it?

 

[com n sense]

If I was with someone and they said that you can bet we wouldn’t be together…..Guess I don’t have much of a sense of humor or more like I don’t like jokes made at my expense. It’s just a way to discount the person you’re with IMO

Which is what I think Travis was aiming for. Poor guy, didn't matter what he said or did he could JUST NOT shake her!
He tried numerous times to break it to her gently - didn't work.
Do I think it was uncalled for? No way! Not when I know what I know now.
He found out being nicey nice wasn't working, so he had to try giving her the cold hard truth! He was a free man whether she liked it or not. Free to date the waitress or who ever he pleased.
But she still didn't get it.:banghead:

 

[pghbrandi]

in bed?

Perhaps.... Lol no!!!

 

[A_News_Junkie]

IMO, she sometimes looks like she is daydreaming, or getting sleepy. One day, she reminded me of a parakeet I had. My bird would close, open it's eyes, trying to not fall asleep on it's perch. (That was written terribly, too tired to fix up)

Like we saw after the photos at the end of the day - this was grabbed while they were at the final sidebar today.

 

[m00c0w]

I have been following this trial from the start. My work monitors internet activity so I can not watch it live, but I do read this forum to keep me up to date on my phone until I can get home and watch the you tube of the days events. Ty for all who post and those that actually go to the trial, this is a very informative forum.
I do have a question:
I keep hearing Jodi confessed to the murder, but I only saw her lies about not being there and the nijas did it. Did she not confess on video or paper? Did she only confess to her lawyers so that is why I did not see it? I thought for sure the confession would be put out in some way to the jury. Did I miss it?

She admitted to killing him, but in self-defense.

She allegedly offered a plea, but that is not the same as a confession (legally). If she did take the plea, that would be.

 

[LotusPawprint]

I think the only statement that can be made about this puzzling piece of "evidence" waitasec is that SOMEONE has a penis.

Beyond that it seems we don't know who it belongs to, how it got on the computer, who sent it, or how many encounters JA had with it.

Sooo... glad we settled that. Great job Nurmi and Willmott!!