The surveillance video-**identified** man and the box of wine

[cluciano63]

I think it is sort of clear that LE is not going to tell us anything until/unless they make an arrest. They don't seem to be the type to fill us in each step of the way, or say what is news and important and what isn't...

Maybe getting the video was just to verify time and other people in the store...maybe it wasn't. Who the H knows...

The wine purchase only matters if Mom did not reveal it and/or if she was intoxicated that night. If she was, I could see covering up any sort of accidental death, due to the range of charges she might be facing for negligent death, manslaughter, etc...not only might she do this from poor judgement from the alcohol but to avoid becoming the "drunk" mom whose baby died while she was partying. All just a scenario for now.

 

[liz b.]

Yes, they were probably still looking for the phones. It just caught my attention because in the video the one female officer hopped the fence and kind of looked through some brush and another officer was scraping up some ground. It didn't seem as meticulous as when they used the metal detectors for the phones and for some reason I wondered if they were looking for something bigger or easier to spot....something they think might have been tossed over there.

And it didn't look like they were looking very long ? I wonder if that search, the window/screen videos and arriving with flashing lights is a "show of force " directed at someone / IMO they may well be trying to shake someone's tree...looking to get a confession...MOO

 

[Quiche]

Ummmm, no. I would be screaming _________ stole my baby! He was here, and he had to of taken her!

Unless, of course, you gave a little too much cold medicine to insure she stayed asleep. :sick:

 

[Gardenlady]

If you left you children alone and something happened to them, you could end up on a receiving end of some serious charges. It's all fun and games until something does happen.

How do you deduce from what I said, or from video of DB at thhe store, that children were left alone?

You can't. In my case, I always left my kids with my husband or mom. In DBs case, she could have had husband watching them, a friend watching them, or any number of people. We just don't know. All we know is she bought some wine and paper plates and was apparently with or talking to some guy at the store. Anything beyond that is just assumption.

 

[BeanE]

MarkKCTV5 Mark Boyle

@kcpolice Captain Young says surveillance video of #lisairwin mother before the baby was taken isn't going to lead to anything substantial

15 minutes ago

 

[jjenny]

How do you deduce from what I said, or from video of DB at thhe store, that children were left alone?

You can't. In my case, I always left my kids with my husband or mom. In DBs case, she could have had husband watching them, a friend watching them, or any number of people. We just don't know. All we know is she bought some wine and paper plates and was apparently with or talking to some guy at the store. Anything beyond that is just assumption.

I have never said DB's children were alone. In fact there is nothing in my post regarding DB.

 

[iluvmua]

I don't get the whole wine thing..... what does this have to do with baby lisa?

 

[Gardenlady]

I have never said DB's children were alone. In fact there is nothing in my post regarding DB.

Then I guess I don't see the point of your post, if it wasn't made in larger context to this case.

 

[CarrieBean]

I don't get the whole wine thing..... what does this have to do with baby lisa?

From my point of view, it's not so much the wine as it is the "unidentified" man.

 

[natsound]

MarkKCTV5Mark Boyle
@kcpolice Captain Young says surveillance video of #lisairwin mother before the baby was taken isn't going to lead to anything substantial

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You know what, I really don't believe this. Unless PD already knew mom was out buying wine with a stranger because she told them during her interrogation, then it has to be significant. If PD did not know about this excursion until they found the receipt, then mom lied to them.

 

[natsound]

I don't get the whole wine thing..... what does this have to do with baby lisa?

It's not the wine, it's the possibility that mom didn't tell police the truth about what she was doing the night before Lisa went missing.

 

[jjenny]

Then I guess I don't see the point of your post, if it wasn't made in larger context to this case.

The larger contexts is; IF (and that's an IF) somebody leaves their children alone and something happens that could lead to charges. I never claimed DB did that, since we don't know who was at home with the children when she went to the store.

 

[wfgodot]

MarkKCTV5 Mark Boyle

@kcpolice Captain Young says surveillance video of #lisairwin mother before the baby was taken isn't going to lead to anything substantial

15 minutes ago

So much ado about nothing then, basically?

 

[Melanie]

I think it is sort of clear that LE is not going to tell us anything until/unless they make an arrest. They don't seem to be the type to fill us in each step of the way, or say what is news and important and what isn't...

Maybe getting the video was just to verify time and other people in the store...maybe it wasn't. Who the H knows...

The wine purchase only matters if Mom did not reveal it and/or if she was intoxicated that night. If she was, I could see covering up any sort of accidental death, due to the range of charges she might be facing for negligent death, manslaughter, etc...not only might she do this from poor judgement from the alcohol but to avoid becoming the "drunk" mom whose baby died while she was partying. All just a scenario for now.

Not to mention, if something did happen to baby Lisa while mom was drinking, it's possible she could have blacked out and doesn't remember what happened. Mom wakes up, baby is gone, and she truly truly doesn't remember a thing and says it's a kidnapping.

Blackouts can generally be divided into two categories, "en bloc" blackouts, and "fragmentary" blackouts. En bloc blackouts are classified by the inability to later recall any memories from the intoxicated period, even when prompted.

Could be possible...but I'm merely speculating as to what may have happened that night.

Mel

 

[mrsu]

I don't know what to think with all this. Perhaps mom was just passed out drunk and that's why she didn't hear anything?

I wonder if they found the wine (empty box)?

I still really want to know more about the 2:30 phone call!

 

[nursebeeme]

http://foxnewsinsider.com/2011/10/11/reports-baby-lisa-mom-deborah-bradley-preparing-to-be-arrested/

video with MM/LE

*******Captain Young says he cannot discuss the details about the grocery store/how it fits in timeline, etc

 

[Melanie]

It's not the wine, it's the possibility that mom didn't tell police the truth about what she was doing the night before Lisa went missing.

And it goes to that if she bought the wine, what happened to it. Did she drink it, was she intoxicated?

I question why she couldn't fill in gaps. Why not? Unless you're impaired, you can tell someone what you did the night before. Or you're impaired and go "geez-what happened".

"From the start when they've questioned me, once I couldn't fill in gaps, it turned into 'You did it, you did it,'" Deborah Bradley told "Good Morning America."

So I ask - why couldn't DB provide an accurate accounting to LE without any gaps?

MOO

Mel

Source: http://abcnews.go.com/US/missing-baby-lisa-fbi-searches-landfill/story?id=14688581

 

[packerdog]

It sounds to me that the stuff she was buying was for a football game/party.

 

[jjenny]

So much ado about nothing then, basically?

So far police have claimed nothing panned out.
So either they really have no clues or I am taking what they are saying with a grain of salt.

 

[nursebeeme]

http://foxnewsinsider.com/2011/10/11/reports-baby-lisa-mom-deborah-bradley-preparing-to-be-arrested/

video with MM/LE

*******Captain Young says he cannot discuss the details about the grocery store/how it fits in timeline, etc

an interesting interview.. bump up... he does not say that the video was insignificant.. he said he couldn't comment