Theories On What Happened to Caylee Part #1

[PrayersForMaura]

Someone I know is thinking Casey left Caylee's lifeless body where the alligators could get her. Hence, she will never be found.

That seems awfully sick. I don't think that is where Caylee is.

Does anyone else think anything along the lines of alligators or something like that?

 

[pang223]

Here's what I think...it's entirely possible that Casey was drugging Caylee w/much easier to obtain forms of sedatives like Zanax and cough syrup etc(ie: Amy talking about how Caylee slept through anything)

But in those forms, she'd still have to wait for Caylee to fall asleep. Chloroform would provide an immediate state of unconciousness. I don't know if she used chloroform more than once or if this was the first time. I don't care. It's positively EVIL.

Anyway, I think it could have gone in a number of ways:
One, she used the chloroform to silence Caylee while she was stashing her in the trunk to go God knows where and Caylee either od'd on the chloroform or suffocated.

OR,
She chloroformed Caylee to run around doing her thing or at Tonys apartment, thought she was just sleeping and then went back to check on her and discovered she wasn't breathing. Then, flurry of calls. No answer. Knows Caylee is dead because of her actions. Knows it's wrong. And then her natural inclination to lie takes over.

I'm still holding onto that I think it was an accident. Although I would NOT be surprised to hear she was planning on killing George and Cindy w/the Chloroform and making it look like a murder/suicide type deal. Because according to interviews w/Tony and Amy: She was making plans with Amy about moving into the Anthony house and she'd assume responsibility for the mortgage from her parents. And then she told Tony she needed to stay with him because the parents were having huge fights about her dad having an affair and that she hated him. I don't know if Casey made up the fights or if it's true. (Casey lies about EVERYTHING. Cindy denied that was happening when she talked to Amy on the 15 and brought it up to Casey during the uncomfortable car ride away from Tony's. But you can't trust Cindy's words either.)

 

[wedavis]

Fight on 6/15 may have resulted in parents telling Casey she wasn't responsible enough to care for Caylee and they told her to get out of the house – George & Cindy would effectively have custody of Caylee. Casey figured the best way to get back at her parents was to take Caylee from them.

Casey went back to the house to “get some clothes and things” and used chloroform to ensure Caylee didn't wake-up from her nap and alert George while Casey concealed and loaded her into the car in a duffle bag, or out the back door & through the gate 6/16 into the Pontiac. (Surely she didn’t load the duffle with Caylee in the trunk to get away quickly exposing Caylee to blunt trauma too - back seat, ok?)

Since Casey wasn't familiar w/ dosing/toxicity, she may have picked this up from Cindy or friends partying and thought it wasn't risky. When Caylee didn't come around, or, vital signs stopped, the flurry of calls to Cindy ensued...Mom's a nurse, she'll know what to do, right!?!?

Jesse G.'s dad said on Greta that those "flurry" of calls were because Casey wasn't getting the house and she was fighting with Tony (could it be she left Tony's late on the 15th?).

What if Casey didn't stay at either the Anthony's or Tony's? Does that shed any new light into this part of the story?

I still think George's interview with Greta about the 16th is suspicious, I think maybe it was not only a cover for the gas can tampering, but to "prove" that whatever fight went down the day before wasn't serious as they were shooting the the next day.

 

[Cerenity2u]

I posted this on another thread, before I knew this one existed, sorry about that . Now that we have more info on the chloroform, thanks to many of you here, I think you all are brilliant BTW at finding great information and putting pieces of evidence together to come up with plausible theories of what happened to little Caylee. Anyhow, I am leaning on the theory that Casey may have had Chloroform in her possession to use as recreational drug. Because she researched "How to use chloroform" on her computer, I feel confident she had no prior experience with it and this would be a first timer for her. I am also putting pieces together with this info on what could have possibly happened to Caylee. I think that it is possible that Casey wanted to do a "test drive" with her newly purchased chloroform in the privacy of her own home....while little Caylee was there. Casey knocked herself unconscious, bottle falls, still open, Caylee enters the area, see's mommy sleeping, see's bottle of chloroform, and proceeds to drink it, or whatever is left remaining in the bottle....remember chloroform tastes sweet according to research. We also know that it is deadly if ingested. Casey wakes up from her drugged stupor only to find the empty bottle of chloroform and her unconscious or perhaps dead daughter. She panics, maybe thinking that Caylee sniffed the vapors and thought she needed to get her outside in fresh air to bring her out of her unconscious state, thus placing her on the grass where the cadavor dogs hit at the Anthony home. Only Caylee didn't wake up, she was already dead. She panics and knows her daughter is deceased, puts her in the trunk. In her twisted mind, she knows she can't call 911, due to the fact that she wouldn't want her parents or authorities to know about the chloroform and why she had it in the first place. The rest is obvious, she had to make up the kidnapping story, after she dumped the body. LE needs to run tests on every square inch on the Anthony home for traces of chloroform..I bet they find some in the area where Casey may have tried it...it would have spilled when she went unconscious. Would explain why they would find substantial amounts in the trunk, it was probably all over Caylee, it may have also come out in the bodily fluids of her decomposing body....just a theory....but anyone think it may be plausible?

 

[pang223]

anyone think it may be plausible?

VERY! I just want to know. I'd so much rather it were this simple than what I posted above. What's sad is that we'll probably never know because she will NEVER tell.

 

[wedavis]

I posted this on another thread, before I knew this one existed, sorry about that . Now that we have more info on the chloroform, thanks to many of you here, I think you all are brilliant BTW at finding great information and putting pieces of evidence together to come up with plausible theories of what happened to little Caylee. Anyhow, I am leaning on the theory that Casey may have had Chloroform in her possession to use as recreational drug. Because she researched "How to use chloroform" on her computer, I feel confident she had no prior experience with it and this would be a first timer for her. I am also putting pieces together with this info on what could have possibly happened to Caylee. I think that it is possible that Casey wanted to do a "test drive" with her newly purchased chloroform in the privacy of her own home....while little Caylee was there. Casey knocked herself unconscious, bottle falls, still open, Caylee enters the area, see's mommy sleeping, see's bottle of chloroform, and proceeds to drink it, or whatever is left remaining in the bottle....remember chloroform tastes sweet according to research. We also know that it is deadly if ingested. Casey wakes up from her drugged stupor only to find the empty bottle of chloroform and her unconscious or perhaps dead daughter. She panics, maybe thinking that Caylee sniffed the vapors and thought she needed to get her outside in fresh air to bring her out of her unconscious state, thus placing her on the grass where the cadavor dogs hit at the Anthony home. Only Caylee didn't wake up, she was already dead. She panics and knows her daughter is deceased, puts her in the trunk. In her twisted mind, she knows she can't call 911, due to the fact that she wouldn't want her parents or authorities to know about the chloroform and why she had it in the first place. The rest is obvious, she had to make up the kidnapping story, after she dumped the body. LE needs to run tests on every square inch on the Anthony home for traces of chloroform..I bet they find some in the area where Casey may have tried it...it would have spilled when she went unconscious. Would explain why they would find substantial amounts in the trunk, it was probably all over Caylee, it may have also come out in the bodily fluids of her decomposing body....just a theory....but anyone think it may be plausible?

I think that is a good theory. Probably hard to prove however because anything found in the Anthony household will receive "spin" cycle treatment. In other words it will either be spun in the wash or spun into a lie to cover for Casey.

 

[yosande]

I suspect the trunk is the babysitter, and some drug, whether it is xanax or clhoroform or whatever else she could find to put her to sleep. I expect the hair will prove this was ongoing not just a one time thing. I do not know if she did this to kill her after the fight with p. or just an accident. I spec. she left Caylee in the trunk post death for as long as she could, then possibly went to JG for help. b/c he truly loves her, he would help her, and she showered at his place when TonE was still in Orlando though she said he was out of town. He also quit his job at LE. in that time frame. mo could change, but that's where I am today...

 

[Cerenity2u]

VERY! I just want to know. I'd so much rather it were this simple than what I posted above. What's sad is that we'll probably never know because she will NEVER tell.

I know exactly how you feel. You may very well be right, we might not ever know what exactly happened to little Caylee. I pray every day that she will be found...that little angel deserves to be put in a proper resting place. And Casey needs to be put in hers....behind bars!

 

[yosande]

I posted this on another thread, before I knew this one existed, sorry about that . Now that we have more info on the chloroform, thanks to many of you here, I think you all are brilliant BTW at finding great information and putting pieces of evidence together to come up with plausible theories of what happened to little Caylee. Anyhow, I am leaning on the theory that Casey may have had Chloroform in her possession to use as recreational drug. Because she researched "How to use chloroform" on her computer, I feel confident she had no prior experience with it and this would be a first timer for her. I am also putting pieces together with this info on what could have possibly happened to Caylee. I think that it is possible that Casey wanted to do a "test drive" with her newly purchased chloroform in the privacy of her own home....while little Caylee was there. Casey knocked herself unconscious, bottle falls, still open, Caylee enters the area, see's mommy sleeping, see's bottle of chloroform, and proceeds to drink it, or whatever is left remaining in the bottle....remember chloroform tastes sweet according to research. We also know that it is deadly if ingested. Casey wakes up from her drugged stupor only to find the empty bottle of chloroform and her unconscious or perhaps dead daughter. She panics, maybe thinking that Caylee sniffed the vapors and thought she needed to get her outside in fresh air to bring her out of her unconscious state, thus placing her on the grass where the cadavor dogs hit at the Anthony home. Only Caylee didn't wake up, she was already dead. She panics and knows her daughter is deceased, puts her in the trunk. In her twisted mind, she knows she can't call 911, due to the fact that she wouldn't want her parents or authorities to know about the chloroform and why she had it in the first place. The rest is obvious, she had to make up the kidnapping story, after she dumped the body. LE needs to run tests on every square inch on the Anthony home for traces of chloroform..I bet they find some in the area where Casey may have tried it...it would have spilled when she went unconscious. Would explain why they would find substantial amounts in the trunk, it was probably all over Caylee, it may have also come out in the bodily fluids of her decomposing body....just a theory....but anyone think it may be plausible?

I'm liking your theory, totally plausible.

 

[Friptzap]

If you read the page from that book it discusses chloroform as being hard to detect (again this book is over 100 years old) but perhaps casey read this and thought that would be a plus side to using chloroform instead of something else besides its so nostalgic...

 

[Cerenity2u]

I think that is a good theory. Probably hard to prove however because anything found in the Anthony household will receive "spin" cycle treatment. In other words it will either be spun in the wash or spun into a lie to cover for Casey.

Good Point! Cindy has put so much spin, twists and turns into this case, just watching her makes me dizzy. How in the world does she even keep up the pace of all the excuses, and lies....knowing she will never see her sweet grandbaby ever again? This is indeed the most bizarre case with the most bizarre players I have ever seen.

 

[Baznme]

Do we know where the dogs hit in the backyard?

 

[Baznme]

I think that is a good theory. Probably hard to prove however because anything found in the Anthony household will receive "spin" cycle treatment. In other words it will either be spun in the wash or spun into a lie to cover for Casey.

Possibly not. Maybe CA doesn't even know there could be traces of it in the carpet or anywhere in that house. Now that the chloroform has come to light, there's probably should be another search of that entire property. She might have hid the bottle in the backyard.

 

[wedavis]

Possibly not. Maybe CA doesn't even know there could be traces of it in the carpet or anywhere in that house. Now that the chloroform has come to light, there's probably should be another search of that entire property. She might have hid the bottle in the backyard.

Good point, but you can bet Cindy will come up with a "good" reason why it is there.

 

[lilllbird]

I posted this on another thread, before I knew this one existed, sorry about that . Now that we have more info on the chloroform, thanks to many of you here, I think you all are brilliant BTW at finding great information and putting pieces of evidence together to come up with plausible theories of what happened to little Caylee. Anyhow, I am leaning on the theory that Casey may have had Chloroform in her possession to use as recreational drug. Because she researched "How to use chloroform" on her computer, I feel confident she had no prior experience with it and this would be a first timer for her. I am also putting pieces together with this info on what could have possibly happened to Caylee. I think that it is possible that Casey wanted to do a "test drive" with her newly purchased chloroform in the privacy of her own home....while little Caylee was there. Casey knocked herself unconscious, bottle falls, still open, Caylee enters the area, see's mommy sleeping, see's bottle of chloroform, and proceeds to drink it, or whatever is left remaining in the bottle....remember chloroform tastes sweet according to research. We also know that it is deadly if ingested. Casey wakes up from her drugged stupor only to find the empty bottle of chloroform and her unconscious or perhaps dead daughter. She panics, maybe thinking that Caylee sniffed the vapors and thought she needed to get her outside in fresh air to bring her out of her unconscious state, thus placing her on the grass where the cadavor dogs hit at the Anthony home. Only Caylee didn't wake up, she was already dead. She panics and knows her daughter is deceased, puts her in the trunk. In her twisted mind, she knows she can't call 911, due to the fact that she wouldn't want her parents or authorities to know about the chloroform and why she had it in the first place. The rest is obvious, she had to make up the kidnapping story, after she dumped the body. LE needs to run tests on every square inch on the Anthony home for traces of chloroform..I bet they find some in the area where Casey may have tried it...it would have spilled when she went unconscious. Would explain why they would find substantial amounts in the trunk, it was probably all over Caylee, it may have also come out in the bodily fluids of her decomposing body....just a theory....but anyone think it may be plausible?

This is plausible. I'm not sure if it has been confirmed that the dogs hit in the backyard but if not maybe Casey just assumed Caylee was dead and placed her in the trunk. Caylee then could have vomited ingested chloroform before dying. That way there could be no contamination other than in the trunk.

I hate even thinking about this. Part of me is still holding on to the idea that Caylee is living with caring individuals and maybe just now adjusting to her new life. Asking for her mom and grandparents but still being loved. The odds of this are nearly impossible, I know

 

[Cerenity2u]

Do we know where the dogs hit in the backyard?

Hi Baznme, yes, and deligently trying to find where I read the exact location of the hits in the backyard to post it for you, with the link. Might take me some time to find it...but I will, hehe. I'm thinking, but want to make sure, that a hit was made near the pool, or near the playhouse.

 

[txsvicki]

This whole thing is so bizarre and twisted that it's almost impossible to really come up with a theory. Everyone involved says such outlandish things and every word is in some sort of defense of Casey. My theory is still death away from the home or at home, and the body being placed in up to three different locations. The chloroform could have been used in the death and also going to play a part in the final story of a ransom demand and Casey being knocked out at some remote location.

 

[Cerenity2u]

I'm not sure if it has been confirmed that the dogs hit in the backyard but if not maybe Casey just assumed Caylee was dead and placed her in the trunk. Caylee then could have vomited ingested chloroform before dying. That way there could be no contamination other than in the trunk.

I hate even thinking about this. Part of me is still holding on to the idea that Caylee is living with caring individuals and maybe just now adjusting to her new life. Asking for her mom and grandparents but still being loved. The odds of this are nearly impossible, I know

This also makes sense, she could have very well put her directly into the trunk thinking Caylee was already gone. Vomiting is one of the symptoms of chloroform poisoning from ingestion or inhalation.

You know? there is nothing wrong with the idea that Caylee is indeed with someone who is taking very good care of her, alive and well...until they actually find a body, or Casey confessess to something, then there will always be that little glimmer of hope

 

[Short_Stuff]

I do not think she picked her up and tried to put her in the pool and she fell, nor do I think she drowned in the pool UNLESS it was deliberate. There was NO accident. Why? 911 would have been called for accidents.
I think she drugged her with the cloroform to party, she suffocated in the car.

 

[faefrost]

I have always wondered if Caylee drowned in the pool, too.

Really interesting about the chlorine and urine creating chloroform. hmmm

There was an expert on chemistry and pharmaceuticals and such on somewhere today that basically said that the aerosal concentrations of chloroform that the FBI reported could not come from any sort of accidental combination of substances such as urine and bleach, or cleaning products. It could only come from straight up manufactured chloroform.

I have always bel;ieved and continue to believe that poor Caylee died in the trunk of that car. She was then driven around in that car trunk for several days until the odor got to be too much. At which point her mother simply disposed of her.