Theory #2: Family Abduction by George Waters with George Brody and/or Associates

[Dr. Doogie]

A quick update on a couple of lines of investigation that we are working;

1) I am still waiting to hear from the NCMEC concerning their comparison of the girl from Synanon and Anna. I called them today, but missed their office hours (three hour difference). I will try again tomorrow.

2) I am drawing a bead on the possible relative of the woman who lived with Brody prior to his living with Waters. I now have an email address and phone number for the relative and am just waiting to get some other information together before making contact. I will probably make contact this week, thanks to the off-forum research of HeartofTexas. Great job, HoT!

3) Another possible match for Anna has appeared. I do not want to say much more than this at this point, but there appears to be at least an indirect link from her to Brody. I am trying to get a picture or a description of her to compare to the age-progressed picture of Anna before contacting her. I do not want to overstate the possibilty of a match - this is based on a lot of speculation at this point! Hopefully, more details will be found and will clarify how high the odds are of this being Anna. I will keep everyone posted.

Every day, we inch closer to the truth. Thanks to everyone for your efforts!

 

[Dr. Doogie]

I am drawing a bead on the possible relative of the woman who lived with Brody prior to his living with Waters. I now have an email address and phone number for the relative and am just waiting to get some other information together before making contact. I will probably make contact this week, thanks to the off-forum research of HeartofTexas. Great job, HoT!

An email has been sent to the possible relative of the woman that Brody resided with prior to Waters. She is too young to have known the woman, but I hope that she can relay the questions to others in her family who may have known Brody and can provide some answers.

 

[Dr. Doogie]

Another quick discovery from the Box from Hell:

I found a research note from Joe Ford that outlined how, even though Waters and Brody had air-tight alibis for when Anna disappeared, they both disappeared the following week for about 7-10 days. He was not able through credit card records to reconstruct where they went.

 

[gardenmom]

Another quick discovery from the Box from Hell:

I found a research note from Joe Ford that outlined how, even though Waters and Brody had air-tight alibis for when Anna disappeared, they both disappeared the following week for about 7-10 days. He was not able through credit card records to reconstruct where they went.

I doubt his work records still exist, but wouldn't a doctor have to leave a forwarding phone number in case he was needed?

 

[Dr. Doogie]

I doubt his work records still exist, but wouldn't a doctor have to leave a forwarding phone number in case he was needed?

Waters worked primarily at clinics where people would see whatever doctor was available. It was this lack of continuity that allowed him to continue working without people recognizing that he was mentally ill. Had he had a regular practice with repeat patients, he probably would have lost his license based on the illness.

 

[smile22]

in the bfh are their any records of credit card slips or anything like say he went to a store in this state and bought something. were credit card recipts the same as today or were they diffrent? if their are recipts and it lists stuff like juice, maybe a childs snack type thingy. a toy those things would have clues as to if brody and gw had anna taken. and they would also list the address of the place they used the cc at right? i think back then they had the credit card slider machine where u slide something to imprint the cc on the slip i know at target where i work we still have those but only if the persons cc strip is gone

 

[itsreenw]

Smile, re: post 206, refer to post 203. Doesn't look like there was a paper trail for them.

 

[smile22]

oh ok so they must have used cash to pay for the purchases. does anyone know if any of waters co workers knew where he was going for that week he was missing im sure he would have had to say something to someone about where he was going to be. if i was his boss im sure i would be concerned if he didnt show up to work.

 

[mjak]

Another quick discovery from the Box from Hell:

I found a research note from Joe Ford that outlined how, even though Waters and Brody had air-tight alibis for when Anna disappeared, they both disappeared the following week for about 7-10 days. He was not able through credit card records to reconstruct where they went.

This is absolulty baffeling to me. I can think of no acceptable reason why a parent would disappear for 7-10 days when there child as just gone missing. Was in common for these two men to dissapear at times?

mjak

 

[Dr. Doogie]

This is absolulty baffeling to me. I can think of no acceptable reason why a parent would disappear for 7-10 days when there child as just gone missing. Was in common for these two men to dissapear at times?

It was not uncommon for Dr. Waters to attend various conferences and seminars that required a few days absences. It was much rarer that Brody would also disappear at the same time.

 

[HeartofTexas]

From a rational viewpoint, it's very hard not to assign some kind of involvement with Anna's disappearance to the two of them disappearing for 7-10 days following her abduction. Very strange indeed (not that the two of them weren't strange in their own right!).

 

[mjak]

It was not uncommon for Dr. Waters to attend various conferences and seminars that required a few days absences. It was much rarer that Brody would also disappear at the same time.

If Dr. Waters had left to go someplace at this time I would think Annasmom would have information as to where he went. What if Anna was found deceased or injured and they needed to get in touch with him immediatly? Wouldn't the police have wanted to know where he was going? Of cause I am thinking in the mindset of the year 2006. No parent today could just dissapear for 7-10 days following there child's dissapearnce and not explain themselves at least to authorities ASAP.

mjak

 

[Dr. Doogie]

If Dr. Waters had left to go someplace at this time I would think Annasmom would have information as to where he went. What if Anna was found deceased or injured and they needed to get in touch with him immediatly? Wouldn't the police have wanted to know where he was going? Of cause I am thinking in the mindset of the year 2006. No parent today could just dissapear for 7-10 days following there child's dissapearnce and not explain themselves at least to authorities ASAP.

Waters only involvement with Anna or Annasmom at the time of her disappearance was the mailing of child support payments. He showed zero desire to have any involvement in Anna's life. Remember, he was so estranged from the family that even after he "knew" of Anna's plight, he never contacted Annasmom. As a result, he would not have notified Annasmom of any travel plans.

(As a side note: When Waters traveled, he would request in writing that the airlines not notify anyone in his family if he were to be killed in an accident other than Brody. This appears to be an attempt to make sure Brody would receive the insurance payoffs before the family could contest the policies - not that they would have contested it anyway. This is how secretive the two Georges were - they didn't even want Annasmom to know if Waters was dead.)

 

[mysteriew]

Reportedly, the two Georges had an alibi for the time period of the kidnapping. Did the LE not find it strange that they disappeared soon after the kidnapping?

 

[Dr. Doogie]

Did the LE not find it strange that they disappeared soon after the kidnapping?

I believe that this disappearance was discovered after a period of time. LE had already pretty much decided that Anna had drowned in the creek by that time (not because that is where the evidence led, but because it was the easiest solution to a difficult case). Once they came to that conclusion, LE never seemed to be that interested in any other evidence, no matter what was turned up.

This is why Annasmom is adamant that we concentrate our efforts on various abduction theories, rather than the drowned in the creek theory - so much time and effort has been put into the creek theory that the other possibilities have not been fully explored.

 

[Annasmom]

Doogie asked me about the absence of the two Georges after Anna's disappearance, and I found it in my journal, dated Jan. 31, 1973: "We called Sergeant Maguire, who says George and his companion Brody haven't been seen at the hotel for more than a week." (This was the late Brendan Maguire, who investigated the couple and who later became San Mateo County Sheriff. The facility in San Mateo is named for him.)

 

[mfmangel1]

I believe that this disappearance was discovered after a period of time. LE had already pretty much decided that Anna had drowned in the creek by that time (not because that is where the evidence led, but because it was the easiest solution to a difficult case). Once they came to that conclusion, LE never seemed to be that interested in any other evidence, no matter what was turned up.

This is why Annasmom is adamant that we concentrate our efforts on various abduction theories, rather than the drowned in the creek theory - so much time and effort has been put into the creek theory that the other possibilities have not been fully explored.

If LE decided then that Anna had drowned, was it then a closed case?

Regardless of the status, closed....open....cold, etc....it does not appear to be actively investigated by LE at this point.

Has anyone in the immediate family recently requested a copy of the case file? This would be of immense help in putting the pieces together with what has been discovered here, with the bfh, etc....

I can't imagine what damage it could possibly do to LE's investigation of this case after all of this time to allow the family to have the case file for their own benefit....Not just the initial police report, which tells very little info.

In my own experience, I had been told the case was too old....Nothing but the initial one page police report existed and everything else had been destroyed.

I did not believe that and continued to be persistent.

Lo and behold, I found a sympathetic officer who forwarded copies of the complete case file to me and it was huge.

I am forever grateful to that officer!

We need a sympathetic officer for Anna.

 

[Dr. Doogie]

If LE decided then that Anna had drowned, was it then a closed case?

Regardless of the status, closed....open....cold, etc....it does not appear to be actively investigated by LE at this point.

The case was not officially closed - it was just ignored. I believe that LE concluded that Anna drown, but because there was no evidence to prove that conclusion, they officially left the case open. Each year that passes with no body or bones being found along the creek shows the short-sightedness of that decision.

We have been able to uncover evidence and clues here at WS (with our limited resources) that LE might very well have been able to uncover while the trail was still warm if they had persued this aggressively in 1973:

1) That Anna was approached by a couple in a car and was enticed to get in the vehicle with them one month before she actually disappeared. This information alone would have focused the investigation in a whole new direction.

2) That a note by George Waters seems to indicate involvement by himself and Brody in the planning of Anna's abduction.

3) That though they had alibis for the actual abduction, both Waters and Brody uncharacteristically were not at their hotel for at least a week in the few days after Anna's disappearance.

The NCMEC lists Anna's case as a "probable stranger abduction". I believe that with what we have uncovered, we can say with certainity that Anna was abducted, probably by a paternal/stranger conspiracy.

 

[mfmangel1]

The case was not officially closed - it was just ignored. I believe that LE concluded that Anna drown, but because there was no evidence to prove that conclusion, they officially left the case open. Each year that passes with no body or bones being found along the creek shows the short-sightedness of that decision.

We have been able to uncover evidence and clues here at WS (with our limited resources) that LE might very well have been able to uncover while the trail was still warm if they had persued this aggressively in 1973:

1) That Anna was approached by a couple in a car and was enticed to get in the vehicle with them one month before she actually disappeared. This information alone would have focused the investigation in a whole new direction.

2) That a note by George Waters seems to indicate involvement by himself and Brody in the planning of Anna's abduction.

3) That though they had alibis for the actual abduction, both Waters and Brody uncharacteristically were not at their hotel for at least a week in the few days after Anna's disappearance.

The NCMEC lists Anna's case as a "probable stranger abduction". I believe that with what we have uncovered, we can say with certainity that Anna was abducted, probably by a paternal/stranger conspiracy.

I agree with the clues and theories uncovered here.
My feelings are that the LE case file may fill in some blanks that would help
us here.

The family is certainly entitled to view it at this point.

 

[Dr. Doogie]

I have been reluctant up to this point to mention the name of the woman that Brody lived with prior to his living with Waters. She was not involved in anyway in the disappearance of Anna - she passed away one-and-a-half months before Anna was born (and five years before Anna disappeared), so she is completely innocent of any involvement and was most likely another victim of Brody. However, she is the best means of figuring out who this very mysterious man was.

Margaret Kukoda was born August 3, 1917 in eastern Pennsylvania. She had at least six siblings as of the 1930 census. She was in the Armed Services from 1943 to 1951 (WAVES?). Maragert never married. She resided in San Francisco from circa 1937 to her death on August 3, 1967 (her fiftieth birthday) from bronchial pneumonia. She had been a shop owner in San Francisco (household items?) for most of her non-military adulthood.

She lived with Brody for at least a decade prior to her death. It is possible that she knew Brody for longer than that - there were some vague clues that Brody was also from Pennsylvania, so it is conceivable that that they met each other in PA prior to 1937.

There is no indication that she and Brody were romantically involved. Here is a hypothesis to mull over: perhaps Brody was a relative, maybe even a brother. There are a couple of brothers who do not show up on the SS Death Index (one is apparantly still alive at age 92). Is it possible that "Brody" was in fact one of these siblings that fell off the radar?

The Kukoda family started in New Jersey, with major portions of them ending up in Pennsylvania and Buffalo, NY (all in the same general region of the country).

There is a woman who is from the Buffalo portion of the family that moved to the San Francisco area in 1996 (I will not mention her name here on the forum to protect her privacy - anyone interested can find her easily through standard people-search engines). Through the hard work of some of the researchers here on WS, we have her married name, current address, phone number and email. I have sent an email to her asking if she had any information concerning Maragaret and/or Brody. I am awaiting a response. If one does happen soon, my next step is to phone her. If you find any contact information, please do not contact her directly! I do not want to scare her off!

I will keep you informed to our progress.