Theory #2: Family Abduction by George Waters with George Brody and/or Associates

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  • #141
petra said:
keeping an open mind about this--and placing myself in the Georges' shoes, this makes sense to me.

Anna was "lost" in Jan 1973. As a crushed, griefing parent who could be scared or terrified by this event....perhaps Dr Waters, since he was the only breadwinner in the twosome took these policies out to provide for Brody (maybe at Brody's suggestion) in case something "accidental" happened to him---just like it happened to Anna.
Dr Waters may have taken these policies, out of fear that perhaps something similar could happen to him, like happened to Anna......just disappearing
Petra, I have trouble imagining that Dr. Waters was crushed or grieving over this. Certainly he demonstrated what psychologists call "flat affect"--absolutely no emotion--with regard to his family before he left home, and apart from sending small checks which were required by law, he had no contact with us whatsover. When LE informed him that Anna had been lost, his only response was to say that he was not responsible and to consult a lawyer about discontinuing support payments. But in my heart, I would like to believe that he still had some feeling for his daughter, and so I found your remarks charitable. Thank you.
 
  • #142
Catching up. The alimony and child support writings are scary (Anna lost)! The A.C.E., to me, is Anna Christian Eiffe. Weird!
 
  • #143
Oh, and Anna's mom? I believe George loved you and Anna very much. He was just so trapped inside his hellish mind.

Love,

Mary
 
  • #144
I don't think the word is MONT at all. If you look at the other words that end in "t", it is totally different. Try comparing that letter to another one that is similar in another writing.
 
  • #145
gardenmom said:
I don't think the word is MONT at all. If you look at the other words that end in "t", it is totally different. Try comparing that letter to another one that is similar in another writing.
I believe that Annasmom is correct: the word is MONY (Mutual of New York). It makes sense in the context of a discussion about insurance. That also lends me to believe that "L's" is Lloyd's (Lloyd's of London) who he did have an insurance policy through.
 
  • #146
Dr. Doogie said:
I believe that Annasmom is correct: the word is MONY (Mutual of New York). It makes sense in the context of a discussion about insurance. That also lends me to believe that "L's" is Lloyd's (Lloyd's of London) who he did have an insurance policy through.
Look at the word "Apply", the "y" on the end is totally different. So, if we assume the "Y" on the end of MON(Y) is a capitol, I guess it may look different. I'm still not convinced, that's why if you can find some other writing samples, it may help decipher the letter. Do you know of any handwriting experts? Maybe try to find a college professor online that may be willing to help. Of course, I also know you will contact MONY to see if he had an account. That would clear it up for sure. At any rate, this is a very encouraging find and I am really happy things are picking up again.

Annasmom, I hope you are holding up well during all this excitement. :clap:
 
  • #147
That also lends me to believe that "L's" is Lloyd's (Lloyd's of London) who he did have an insurance policy through.
Doogie, why couldn't "L's" just be GW's shorthand for "life insurance policies"?
 
  • #148
HeartofTexas said:
Doogie, why couldn't "L's" just be GW's shorthand for "life insurance policies"?
That is also possible.
 
  • #149
Dr. Doogie,

what else ya got in that box? I think that note has confirmed a lot of people's belief that GW and GB were involved.

Joe Ford, do you recall when it was that you heard GW make the comment about the tot being dead??

edited to add:
I emailed MONY (now AXA) and asked if they archived the records from the 70's. I briefly explained the reason for my inquiry and I am awaiting a response. If I get a reply I will get a contact name and forward it to Annasamom and Dr. Doogie.
 
  • #150
itsreenw said:
Dr. Doogie, what else ya got in that box? I think that note has confirmed a lot of people's belief that GW and GB were involved.
I am rededicating myself to mining the BFH for any other information. I must admit that I thought that Annasmom was being melodramatic concerning how difficult it is to review its contents - boy, was I wrong! It is spiritually draining to try and comprehend the writings of two mentally-ill men. However, I feel that hiding within the rants of these two resides the answers to a lot of our questions.


itsreenw said:
I emailed MONY (now AXA) and asked if they archived the records from the 70's. I briefly explained the reason for my inquiry and I am awaiting a response. If I get a reply I will get a contact name and forward it to Annasamom and Dr. Doogie.
Thanks, itsreenw. Are you back among the living now after your recent illness?
 
  • #151
Originally posted by Dr. Doogie
Thanks, itsreenw. Are you back among the living now after your recent illness?
Actually NO!! I am still sick but that won't keep me from logging into WS.

I'm sure you will let us know if you find anything else in the BFH- I am just amazed that you stumbled across that note. That is very telling. I wonder if GW didn't leave some of those things purposely so Annasmom would know what happened. He had to have a tinge of guilt about abducting her
 
  • #152
itsreenw said:
I'm sure you will let us know if you find anything else in the BFH- I am just amazed that you stumbled across that note. That is very telling. I wonder if GW didn't leave some of those things purposely so Annasmom would know what happened. He had to have a tinge of guilt about abducting her
Waters was very meticulous about archiving every seemingly minor piece of paperwork that he had - even down to receipts for the portrait he had done of Brody in 1971 (still in his possesion in 1982). However, he evidently went on a purging binge between Brody's death 12/24/81 and his suicide estimated about 1/7/82. This note was a single sheet of 5.5x8.5 paper that must have been missed by Waters. I doubt that GW felt guilt over any involvement in Anna's disappearance. If he wanted Annasmom to know what happened, he could have left a confession in a suicide note spelling out clearly what occured. I believe that he felt justified in his actions and knowingly took his secrets to the grave. I think that we were just lucky that he wasn't as thorough at destroying evidence as he thought he was.
 
  • #153
do u think that somehow deep in his heart he might have wanted to tell annas mom about what happend but brody had forbid him to? also do u think waters took his life not only beacuse he was going crazy and brody had died but do u think he was distrought over what happend to anna and couldnt take it anymore. i mean brody had him really in check with everything. when brody was dying he could have pleaded with him or something to tell what happend to anna but being brody he could have convinced him t was for the best?
 
  • #154
go higher!!!!!
 
  • #155
smile22 said:
do u think that somehow deep in his heart he might have wanted to tell annas mom about what happend but brody had forbid him to? also do u think waters took his life not only beacuse he was going crazy and brody had died but do u think he was distrought over what happend to anna and couldnt take it anymore. i mean brody had him really in check with everything. when brody was dying he could have pleaded with him or something to tell what happend to anna but being brody he could have convinced him t was for the best?
I think that Brody had him so wrapped around his finger that Waters completely had no clue how to exist without Brody's "guidance". I have notes from the Box from Hell where Waters claims that Brody is the greatest thing that has happened to planet Earth in all of its history. Waters told Annasmom that Brody was greater than Jesus Christ. The level of devotion and respect that he had for this old coot was truely frightening.
 
  • #156
I have posted links to all of the pictures of Anna in the Vital Statistics thread (Post #13). This is to help people find them without having to scour all of the threads for the various links.
 
  • #157
A quick note about the missing safe deposit keys: they have been found in the Box from Hell. Unfortunately, the contents of any SDB's have been forfitedand any personal papers were destroyed by the state. There is a substantial amount of money in one under the name of George Brody, but only an heir can claim it.
 
  • #158
There is a substantial amount of money in one under the name of George Brody, but only an heir can claim it.
A substantial sum of money in a safety deposit box could negate the Synanon theory (where most of GW's income was donated to Synanon). OTOH, with both of them being so paranoid, anything is possible.
 
  • #159
Dr. Doogie said:
Higher, as in the FBI?
As GW's sister was president of the Socialists Worker's Party, it seems likely that the FBI would have a file on her and possibly her brother, GW. Maybe the Freedom of Information Act could unearth some details of an investigation that possibly would include Brody?
 
  • #160
Dr. Doogie said:
There is a substantial amount of money in one under the name of George Brody, but only an heir can claim it.

Could that be used in any way to force an investigation by authorities? Logically all or a portion of the money would have been Anna's as she is the only known heir. Anna is missing under suspicious circumstances. Could those funds be used to finance the search or anything?
 
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