Things That Make You Go "Hmmmmm . . ."

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Amster, who the frick is Josh?
 
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I've been looking for some of the earliest media reports on this case....does anyone remember this? Logan knew EJ was going to SA to spend Christmas with friends and he was fine with it?

We had all of the beginning threads. Does anyone know how to find them?

I think you meant Logan, not Josh. But, yes, I remember something like that - I'm not sure it was SA though.
 
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I've been looking for some of the earliest media reports on this case....does anyone remember this? Logan knew EJ was going to SA to spend Christmas with friends and he was fine with it?

We had all of the beginning threads. Does anyone know how to find them?

I remember that, Amster. It was in several of the early reports, but not quoted from Logan. Then those reports went away. I've wondered if it came from Tammi I've never found anything saying it came from her.

You can use the Gabriel forum advanced search for the word 'visit' as the keyword, and reverse the order of the results so the oldest threads and posts come up first.

There's also this tool from Google labs that's helpful in finding news reports in specific time periods and even on specific dates:

http://newstimeline.googlelabs.com/
 
  • #105
Yes, the Ipod Touch is super easy to use with WiFi and internet. Works like a little mini netbook. I have one and love it. I've sat at Panera Bread/Mcdonalds and looked up directions and websites...
 
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I've been looking for some of the earliest media reports on this case....does anyone remember this? Logan knew EJ was going to SA to spend Christmas with friends and he was fine with it?

We had all of the beginning threads. Does anyone know how to find them?

I have this

http://www.abc15.com/content/news/s...of-Texas-landfill/xgsbK2cK80iD5ZWBC0ifjg.cspx
http://74.125.155.132/search?q=cach...her,+I+commend+her."&cd=1&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=us
January 4th article
Tempe police Sgt. Steve Carbajal said Johnson left Arizona with her son Gabriel December 18.

"Everybody knew where she was and that was OK," Carbajal said. "She just wanted to get away for a while and then these series of events happened where it was a concern for the father that she would not show up for a hearing. His fears were confirmed."
 
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I have this

http://www.abc15.com/content/news/s...of-Texas-landfill/xgsbK2cK80iD5ZWBC0ifjg.cspx
http://74.125.155.132/search?q=cach...her,+I+commend+her."&cd=1&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=us
January 4th article
Tempe police Sgt. Steve Carbajal said Johnson left Arizona with her son Gabriel December 18.

"Everybody knew where she was and that was OK," Carbajal said. "She just wanted to get away for a while and then these series of events happened where it was a concern for the father that she would not show up for a hearing. His fears were confirmed."

Im Confused? :waitasec:
How was it OK if Logan was suppose to have Gabriel that weekend and he goes to pick him up and they're gone??
Tammi mentions that Logan was taking Gabriel to his sister's.... wonder if this started out as who gettin Gabriel for xmas???
 
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I have this

http://www.abc15.com/content/news/s...of-Texas-landfill/xgsbK2cK80iD5ZWBC0ifjg.cspx
http://74.125.155.132/search?q=cach...her,+I+commend+her."&cd=1&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=us
January 4th article
Tempe police Sgt. Steve Carbajal said Johnson left Arizona with her son Gabriel December 18.

"Everybody knew where she was and that was OK," Carbajal said. "She just wanted to get away for a while and then these series of events happened where it was a concern for the father that she would not show up for a hearing. His fears were confirmed."

Thank you!! In that article, Logan says EJ and Gabe were seen in a park on the 26th and that was after he got the death text from EJ. :waitasec:

I think I'm confusing the heck out of myself. I want Gabriel found safe so bad!
 
  • #109
McQueary says he believes Gabriel is still alive, considering he and Johnson were last seen at a park near Six Flags in San Antonio, Texas on December 26 -- after McQueary received the threatening messages

Thank you!! I was starting to think I imagined this. They were seen at the park on the 26th, correct or was this later proven wrong? Wasn't the text sent on the morning of the 27th :waitasec:?
 
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Wanted to add...

That you can use the iPod Touch to send texts too. There is an app you can add on!

Hmmmm....
 
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McQueary says he believes Gabriel is still alive, considering he and Johnson were last seen at a park near Six Flags in San Antonio, Texas on December 26 -- after McQueary received the threatening messages

Thank you!! I was starting to think I imagined this. They were seen at the park on the 26th, correct or was this later proven wrong? Wasn't the text sent on the morning of the 27th :waitasec:?

I just have no freaking clue! :banghead:

Between the Smiths various lies and reporters sloppy reporting and EJs ever changing story...I can't figure out anything. I DO know that I don't believe anything the Smiths are spewing. Or EJ, either.
 
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I just have no freaking clue! :banghead:

Between the Smiths various lies and reporters sloppy reporting and EJs ever changing story...I can't figure out anything. I DO know that I don't believe anything the Smiths are spewing. Or EJ, either.

I just checked BeanE's timeline on the 27th and the text was sent on the 27th so if they were seen in the park on the 26th, that's before the text was sent. WTH??????

The media and the Smith have made this really difficult and caused a roller coaster of emotional ups and downs. I change my mind about what happened every other day. I can only imagine what it's doing to Gabriel's family.
 
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One of the frustrating things for me, that does makes me stop and go , Hmmm? is that no matter what, I have to believe EJ, at least some part of her statements. She either killed him or she gave him away. One or the other has to be true. I just have no idea which one is the truth.
 
  • #114
Wanted to add...

That you can use the iPod Touch to send texts too. There is an app you can add on!

Hmmmm....

Yes you are correct. I wonder if an IPOD was found on EJ at the time of the arrest. I also wonder if LE can ping an IPOD the way a cell phone can be pinged?
 
  • #115
I have not heard if they found an IPod on EJ (I doubt it), but they did find an Ipod charge in her hotel room
 
  • #116
I am not sure where to put this so I guess I'll put it here. In some of the news videos Gabriel is wrapped in what looks like a lonestar state blanket. Is that really a lonestar blanket? Who would wrap him in a lonestar blanket....hmmm.
 
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Hence the CYA messages on myspace.


I am thinking TS maybe got EJ a job somewhere?
 
  • #118
I am not sure where to put this so I guess I'll put it here. In some of the news videos Gabriel is wrapped in what looks like a lonestar state blanket. Is that really a lonestar blanket? Who would wrap him in a lonestar blanket....hmmm.

hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmn Is it really? This question might be posted in the questions for the family thread? If Logan does not know, maybe we should start a questions for the POI thread? :angel:
 
  • #119
I was just posting on the woman from Mesa who had been missing but now home, about the news (or rather lack of news) here. I have never seen anything like it. It is frustrating and I have intentionally stayed away from this (relatively) local case because of it.

The local news makes me go hmmmm or more often ARGGGG!!

Just keep praying for Baby Gabriel, I would be climbing the walls waiting for anything from the news.

I was going to bring over the info about Jay J. Armes, otherwise known as "The Investigator," but Bless our Angel beat me to it! But here is a nibble from JJA:

The investigator said he solves cases by following every lead, like the rumor that a woman on the other side of the country adopted a baby named Gabriel the same day Gabriel Johnson went missing. another hmmm?

http://www.abc15.com/content/news/s...fers-to-help-find/s_YjDv3DlkWy4sO_Gbc9xw.cspx

Original Post by: Capt DJ How was it OK if Logan was suppose to have Gabriel that weekend and he goes to pick him up and they're gone??
Tammi mentions that Logan was taking Gabriel to his sister's.... wonder if this started out as who gettin Gabriel for xmas???

I admit to being completely out of the loop here, but I thought the original story was she bailed when dad's sister was given custody - by the courts? :waitasec:


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  • #120
Last night at a party I was really surprised to learn that not everyone knows about Gabriel's case. At the party I was at a table with 6 women, moms in fact, and only 1 of them had heard of Gabriel!!! She from SA. I was so surprised, I thought everyone else had at least seen something on Gabriel. I only live an hour away from San Antonio. This made me think maybe it is possible that a family adopted him and that they really haven't seen it in the media.
 
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