This thread is for posters that believe Calee is still alive #5

[BlueEyedSpy]

I'm not really sure how to post this, but I know I want to do it in this thread. It has to do with Caylee being alive and one way that could be possible. I have been checking on some things for awhile now and just sitting on it because I'm not sure of the reaction I will get. I feel like it is something that definitely be checked into, though, hard as the thought may be. Please just listen, before you throw my post out, okay?
Say that Casey was seeing yet another man, one that I haven't seen mentioned that she was seeing. He just happens to be the husband of a young lady that was murdered and her body found at Jay Blanchard Park. She was being really sneaky BEFORE his wife was killed, and even more sneaky AFTER she was killed, for obvious reasons.
Say Casey had been meeting him for some time and letting he and Caylee get to know one another.
There are many of the phone pings that are in his area of town.
Many of the places that there are pings, are places where people are suspecting was where she "got rid of the body" or whatever. The was I see it, it was places she, he and Caylee could visit without anyone finding out.
I have quite a bit of information on this guy so far and I am still researching.
Anyone interested in helping sleuth this out?
I believe that he may also be the bio-dad (I know there are plenty already) of Caylee. I believe that the ALIVE Caylee, Casey and this guy had their own little thing going on and all was going well until Casey got busted. I think that when she did, he had Caylee and couldn't bring her back, nor could Casey reveal him because that would put them both in a very suspicious position. I believe he or Casey one made arrangements after that to get Caylee out of dodge until this was all over with.

Your theory is as possible as anything else, so don't be afraid to put it out there. We don't toss or bash on this thread - it's for support, in fact.

The only thing so far that I'm not willing to completely toss out is the probability that there was decomposition in Casey's car, and your theory doesn't really provide for that, unless you're intimating that Casey somehow got involved in this woman's (and I know who you're referring to) murder?

Aside from that, I'm not sure that Casey would go through what she's been going through just to keep infidelity a secret. I detest adultery, but it seems like a huge penalty for a small infraction, by comparison.

Are there other sinisters reasons that Casey may not want to reveal this affair other than adultery?

 

[yankeesbelle04]

No kidding, no less texting about 'poop' - you've got to be a proud mom to text about that, especially texting to friends who undoubtedly aren't really sharing in your poop excitement since they have no children of their own.

LMAO! I guess my friends will have something to look forward to next year when I start with my daughter!

 

[yankeesbelle04]

Ain't that the truth? LOL I think you have to be a mom to truly appreciate how liberating it is when you no longer have to change all those diapers.

OMG I cant wait!

 

[secreteye]

Your theory is as possible as anything else, so don't be afraid to put it out there. We don't toss or bash on this thread - it's for support, in fact.

The only thing so far that I'm not willing to completely toss out is the probability that there was decomposition in Casey's car, and your theory doesn't really provide for that, unless you're intimating that Casey somehow got involved in this woman's (and I know who you're referring to) murder?

Aside from that, I'm not sure that Casey would go through what she's been going through just to keep infidelity a secret. I detest adultery, but it seems like a huge penalty for a small infraction, by comparison.

Are there other sinisters reasons that Casey may not want to reveal this affair other than adultery?

I have thought and thought about that, also...about the decomp in the car. Then, this morning, I listened to the CA interview from Aug. 4th. In there, she says that JH has Casey's car on the 10th and 11th working on it, changing oil, etc. and I think working on the gas gauge...which she had also mentioned in a Greta interview that a friend had worked on her car, but it just went on by Greta. But it is in there. CA uses JH name in the Aug 4th interview alot. My thought is that maybe 4 yrs ago, when she did work at Universal with JH, he introduced Casey to this guy. That's how they get around coming out and saying who he is. During that whole interview, I think that every time CA said JH, she was referring to the other guy.
Thinking about it this way has made me believe more than ever that Caylee is alive, and is away safe. And even more so too, that it was for nothing but her safety and not because Caylee was actually involved in something bad herself. Or because of the fight KC and CA had. I think they had the fight because KC told CA where Caylee was and that CA didn't think it was a good idea. I also think it explains why KC kept saying that she left Caylee with someone that she TOTALLY trusted...before this happened, she thought she could trust him.

 

[krimekat]

And Caylee being or not being potty trained has what, exactly, to do with the topic of this thread that Caylee is alive?

No diapers (Caylee was not potty trained at almost 3 yo), no kid clothes, no kid food - such as juice boxes, etc.

http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0809/25/ng.01.html

Original post, BES

 

[yankeesbelle04]

I think the whole thing about Caylee not being potty trained should be dropped.. We do know that she was being taught.. So let's drop it!

 

[kaych]

That is exactly what I mean . . . especially a little girl.

Well I guess this means I am a bad parent, because my healthy, happy SAFE son who isn't missing isn't potty trained, and surely not for a lack of me trying. But I refuse to torment my child because he wont use the potty at 2.5 years old.

The average age of potty training is around 3 years.
http://www.pull-ups.com/NA/article_detail.aspx?phase=0&article=3
Excerpt:
The average age for completion is 34 months for girls and 37.5 months for boys.

 

[BlueEyedSpy]

I think the whole thing about Caylee not being potty trained should be dropped.. We do know that she was being taught.. So let's drop it!

I agree, it's totally irrelevant to the topic of this thread.

 

[kaych]

I agree, it's totally irrelevant to the topic of this thread.

You're right, but if you're going to call her a bad parent, use one of the other million things KC has done wrong and not something that doesn't even indicate the type of parent a person is. I do apologize for getting heated, though.

 

[trina133]

LOL Looks like we need to start a club for the moms with kids who potty trained late. FWIW, my late little girl is now in HS and has a 3.85 GPA. Wonder if there's a correlation because I think Caylee is a smart little girl, too.
I'm sure I also went shopping many times and nothing was bought for the kids. Actually, I used to make special trips to Target or Walmart to buy kid stuff and never bought diapers, juice, etc at the grocery store, so if you looked at my grocery receipt, you wouldn't find that stuff. That was because it was cheaper. Of course, it also depends on what you need at the moment.

Those receipts, my feeling, were AFTER Caylee was gone(given by Casey to someone) so why would she buy anything for her? She didn't have her, so she wasn't going to spend money on juice boxes, diapers or pull ups.

JMO of course

Funny you mention that!! My son, the late pottier, is one of the smartest in his class. As a matter of fact he is sitting in the living room right now, explaining tonights homework to two classmates.

Sooo.....you may be onto to something there!!!

 

[aqua_mom]

I know that's ridiculous.. In a case like this, you remember if it was her or not!

I don't think it's funny that your computer crashed, but I do think it's funny t that something happened to mine yesterday too! Boy was I panicking, getting stressed for not being able to come on websleuths! I had to call optimum for them to fix it!

I know! After spending hours on the phone with Dell, taking apart my laptop, they finally agreed to replace the motherboard and the wireless card. Thank goodness I have a computer at home too!

I think it's all this websleuthing that fried my laptop

On a different note, I suddenly had a realization. If Caylee is safe, in a good and loving home, I almost feel bad for her being brought back into the family. I know, I know, it's not right to keep her from her grandparents and her uncle - it's just a thought I had.

On another topic - can't the police subpoena KTC's phone records?

 

[BreatheLife21]

I still can't find any reference to Target receipts , am i missing it ?

 

[looking4clues]

I think the whole thing about Caylee not being potty trained should be dropped.. We do know that she was being taught.. So let's drop it!

I'm with you. The fact that she wasn't potty trained has no relevancy in the discussion of the case as far as I'm concerned.

So Casey didn't buy diapers or Pull-ups, juice boxes or toys. If she had handed Caylee off to someone by that point, why would she? It really doesn't prove anything just because her mother didn't buy juice boxes or diapers on some shopping trips.

Did anyone hear the psychologist on Nancy Grace suggest that it was possible that Casey now feels things are safe enough for her to go get Caylee? I didn't think that was the answer NG was looking for when she asked her.

I guess we'll wait and see what happens Friday....gonna be a LONG week!

 

[looking4clues]

Funny you mention that!! My son, the late pottier, is one of the smartest in his class. As a matter of fact he is sitting in the living room right now, explaining tonights homework to two classmates.

Sooo.....you may be onto to something there!!!

:woohoo::blowkiss:

 

[BlueEyedSpy]

I know! After spending hours on the phone with Dell, taking apart my laptop, they finally agreed to replace the motherboard and the wireless card. Thank goodness I have a computer at home too!

I think it's all this websleuthing that fried my laptop

On a different note, I suddenly had a realization. If Caylee is safe, in a good and loving home, I almost feel bad for her being brought back into the family. I know, I know, it's not right to keep her from her grandparents and her uncle - it's just a thought I had.

On another topic - can't the police subpoena KTC's phone records?

Yes they can, and I would hope that they have done so even though we haven't seen them. But then again, I would have hoped that they would have checked out the airport sighting as well...........

As for Caylee being brought back into the family, well, she certainly did seem happy and immensely loved, so I don't at all see a problem with her returning. I doubt very much that Casey would resume custody, if ever, not for quite some time.

No matter where Caylee is, Casey had obviously put her in danger. I'm not at all willing to forgive Casey for that, not that I have a say in it, but I doubt that DCFS will feel very much forgiveness towards Casey either.

 

[BlueEyedSpy]

I'm with you. The fact that she wasn't potty trained has no relevancy in the discussion of the case as far as I'm concerned.

So Casey didn't buy diapers or Pull-ups, juice boxes or toys. If she had handed Caylee off to someone by that point, why would she? It really doesn't prove anything just because her mother didn't buy juice boxes or diapers on some shopping trips.

Did anyone hear the psychologist on Nancy Grace suggest that it was possible that Casey now feels things are safe enough for her to go get Caylee? I didn't think that was the answer NG was looking for when she asked her.

I guess we'll wait and see what happens Friday....gonna be a LONG week!

I do not at all anticipate that the Judge will rule in Casey's favor pertaining to her secret trek to go find Caylee.

Not a chance.

 

[pb6656]

I'm not really sure how to post this, but I know I want to do it in this thread. It has to do with Caylee being alive and one way that could be possible. I have been checking on some things for awhile now and just sitting on it because I'm not sure of the reaction I will get. I feel like it is something that definitely be checked into, though, hard as the thought may be. Please just listen, before you throw my post out, okay?
Say that Casey was seeing yet another man, one that I haven't seen mentioned that she was seeing. He just happens to be the husband of a young lady that was murdered and her body found at Jay Blanchard Park. She was being really sneaky BEFORE his wife was killed, and even more sneaky AFTER she was killed, for obvious reasons.
Say Casey had been meeting him for some time and letting he and Caylee get to know one another.
There are many of the phone pings that are in his area of town.
Many of the places that there are pings, are places where people are suspecting was where she "got rid of the body" or whatever. The was I see it, it was places she, he and Caylee could visit without anyone finding out.
I have quite a bit of information on this guy so far and I am still researching.
Anyone interested in helping sleuth this out?
I believe that he may also be the bio-dad (I know there are plenty already) of Caylee. I believe that the ALIVE Caylee, Casey and this guy had their own little thing going on and all was going well until Casey got busted. I think that when she did, he had Caylee and couldn't bring her back, nor could Casey reveal him because that would put them both in a very suspicious position. I believe he or Casey one made arrangements after that to get Caylee out of dodge until this was all over with.

I don't know what type of information you may have on this young man but he has not been missing since his wife's murder. Wouldn't somebody in the family notice if he all of a sudden had a three year old child after the death of his wife of 15 months? I wouldn't want this young man to suffer more than he already has just because his wfe was murdered at the same time a young child went missing. He is already suffering.

 

[secreteye]

I don't know what type of information you may have on this young man but he has not been missing since his wife's murder. Wouldn't somebody in the family notice if he all of a sudden had a three year old child after the death of his wife of 15 months? I wouldn't want this young man to suffer more than he already has just because his wfe was murdered at the same time a young child went missing. He is already suffering.

My intention is not to cause anyone any suffering. My hopes are to see Caylee returned home alive. That is why I posted this in this thread. IMO, it is something that needs to be checked into. I'm glad to know that he hasn't been missing and I never implied that he was...? I also never said that he is in possession of a three year old child. I am very sorry for his loss and her families' loss. It was very tragic.

 

[Kooba]

Your theory is as possible as anything else, so don't be afraid to put it out there. We don't toss or bash on this thread - it's for support, in fact.

The only thing so far that I'm not willing to completely toss out is the probability that there was decomposition in Casey's car, and your theory doesn't really provide for that, unless you're intimating that Casey somehow got involved in this woman's (and I know who you're referring to) murder?

Aside from that, I'm not sure that Casey would go through what she's been going through just to keep infidelity a secret. I detest adultery, but it seems like a huge penalty for a small infraction, by comparison.

Are there other sinisters reasons that Casey may not want to reveal this affair other than adultery?

Something very interesting I read this morning on a news website. There is a young mother who has been missing since 2006. Her husband said she left their 5 month old baby in her crib alone. When he came home she was gone but the baby was there. Anyway, he didn't report her missing for two days and by the time the cadaver(sp) dogs were at the house it had been 5 days. One of the members of the search team said the cadaver dogs hit on an area near the home but they couldn't find anything. The search team member said it is most likely the dogs may have been confused on the smell and that it was more than likely a dead animal and clay. I'm not saying the dogs didn't hit on decomp but is a possibility there was something else that made them hit on the trunk and backyard. JMO.

 

[BlueEyedSpy]

Something very interesting I read this morning on a news website. There is a young mother who has been missing since 2006. Her husband said she left their 5 month old baby in her crib alone. When he came home she was gone but the baby was there. Anyway, he didn't report her missing for two days and by the time the cadaver(sp) dogs were at the house it had been 5 days. One of the members of the search team said the cadaver dogs hit on an area near the home but they couldn't find anything. The search team member said it is most likely the dogs may have been confused on the smell and that it was more than likely a dead animal and clay. I'm not saying the dogs didn't hit on decomp but is a possibility there was something else that made them hit on the trunk and backyard. JMO.

It's possible.

Dogs are not infallible, as we know from the Elizabeth Smart case where Search dogs were within a few feet of Elizabeth and failed to alert.

I could discount the alerts on the trunk if it weren't for Cindy's own startling comment about the smell on her 911 call, as well as Lee's statement about the car being intolerable while parked in the garage, as well as Yuri's Bond hearing testimony. That's just too much at this point, to ignore.

But do all of those things make it a positive connection to decomposition?

No, they don't. Forensics should be that backup indicator, but LE doesn't seem to be very confident in that, either.