Thread No. 20

[Jubal]

Raisin:

I have to agree with you. Jason Young is never going to confess. Confession, in all the forms it takes in present day society requires awareness of wrongdoing. Jason lacks this awareness. Simply put, eliminating an obstacle just wasn't wrong. As for his wife also being (much more importantly I might add) Cassidy's mommy, she was fungible in that respect. JMO

Too bad he didn't consult Cassidy. I'm thinking Cassidy might not agree that Mommy is fungible.

 

[liveoutloud]

Too bad he didn't consult Cassidy. I'm thinking Cassidy might not agree that Mommy is fungible. Does anyone remember that picture of her at her mother's casket?

No Jubal, I did not see funeral pics. Did they have the baby at the funeral?

 

[spring]

Raisin:

I have to agree with you. Jason Young is never going to confess. Confession, in all the forms it takes in present day society requires awareness of wrongdoing. Jason lacks this awareness. Simply put, eliminating an obstacle just wasn't wrong. As for his wife also being (much more importantly I might add) Cassidy's mommy, she was fungible in that respect. JMO

with the info i am hearing, it would be in his best interest and Cassidy's if he did confess. that 1st degree is going to stick. at least with a confession he will be alive so that Cassidy will have one parent living.

 

[jilly]

No, deaths inside a home are not material fact so they don't have to be disclosed at all.

In the article it says:

"Local real estate experts told WRAL there is no law requiring sellers to disclose information about crimes that might have occurred in homes up for sale.

However, Sara Matyiko, a real estate agent with RE/MAX United in North Raleigh, said that a buyer's agent – a real estate agent hired by a prospective homeowner – is obliged to find out as much as possible about a property and share it with clients.


http://html.wral.com/news/local/story/1567666/

I would think that if a buyer was not told they'd find out fairly quickly once they moved in from the neighbors. If it was me, I'd be hiring a lawyer & getting out of there quickly. Just couldn't live there knowing a pregnant woman had been brutally murdered with her child wandering around in the blood.

 

[Jubal]

No Jubal, I did not see funeral pics. Did they have the baby at the funeral?

Sorry. I made a mistake. Following too many spousal murders at the same time. It was Tara Grant's daughter.

 

[liveoutloud]

with the info i am hearing, it would be in his best interest and Cassidy's if he did confess. that 1st degree is going to stick. at least with a confession he will be alive so that Cassidy will have one parent living.

Yeah, it would definitely be in his best interest but somehow I don't see it happening. Unless LE has SUCH an awesome case against him that his lawyer manages to talk him into it. Somehow I doubt that R Smith could talk him into confessing to anything.

 

[liveoutloud]

Too bad he didn't consult Cassidy. I'm thinking Cassidy might not agree that Mommy is fungible.

Sigh...
No, me either.
Even if some of the Youngs are helping her in that respect, psychologically killing her mother after having physically killing her will result in much harm and not always the kind of harm shrinks and therapists are able to help as it is so fundamental to who she is and who she will be. This is not to say that another woman wouldn't be good but if it were one of her maternal relatives, so very much the better.

 

[liveoutloud]

Sorry. I made a mistake. Following too many spousal murders at the same time. It was Tara Grant's daughter.

No problem Jubal.
It isn't your fault there are too many spousal murders to follow.

 

[DEPUTYDAWG]

Yeah, it would definitely be in his best interest but somehow I don't see it happening. Unless LE has SUCH an awesome case against him that his lawyer manages to talk him into it. Somehow I doubt that R Smith could talk him into confessing to anything.

Oh, if we are to believe recent comments made here, Jason doesn't have R Smith at his disposal anymore. Wonder why? Then again, there will probably be more info surrounding defense tactics, etc. coming soon....JMO.

 

[liveoutloud]

Oh, if we are to believe recent comments made here, Jason doesn't have R Smith at his disposal anymore. Wonder why? Then again, there will probably be more info surrounding defense tactics, etc. coming soon....JMO.

DD

I heard that.
If Smith is no longer involved it's because he hasn't been paid.
He wouldn't be refusing on principle.
Someone said Jason didn't need a criminal defense attorney.
Why did he retain Smith to begin with then?

 

[jilly]

To the best of my knowledge, a defense attorney takes a retainer. This is usually a substantial amount. I would think that the attorney would not have used it all up, but you never know. Maybe it was used up and jy decided to let the attorney go.

It could also be that at the 6 month mark, the attorney said - since nothing is happening, I will reimburse the balance of the retainer to you or jy himself made that request.

 

[MelindaG]

I am willing to bet Roger Smith still represents Jason Young as his 'personal attorney'. It is probably just a great big ole coincidence that Jason's 'personal attorney' specializes in criminal law and business crimes defense, litigation, alcoholic beverage control, personal injury and oh yes...traffic violations.
This case is just full of coincidences.

 

[liveoutloud]

I am willing to bet Roger Smith still represents Jason Young as his 'personal attorney'. It is probably just a great big ole coincidence that Jason's 'personal attorney' specializes in criminal law and business crimes defense, litigation, alcoholic beverage control, personal injury and oh yes...traffic violations.
This case is just full of coincidences.

Or, here is another thought.
Whoever we heard that from--that Jason did not require the services of a defense attorney--is chock full of horse manure and trying to obfuscate, as usual.

 

[DEPUTYDAWG]

I am willing to bet Roger Smith still represents Jason Young as his 'personal attorney'. It is probably just a great big ole coincidence that Jason's 'personal attorney' specializes in criminal law and business crimes defense, litigation, alcoholic beverage control, personal injury and oh yes...traffic violations.
This case is just full of coincidences.

Ahhhh, semantics?

Just takes away from the important fact that Michelle was beaten so badly that she died. Any and/or all suspects or POI's should have a criminal defense attorney, because one just never knows how fleeting one's freedom may be.

 

[DEPUTYDAWG]

To the best of my knowledge, a defense attorney takes a retainer. This is usually a substantial amount. I would think that the attorney would not have used it all up, but you never know. Maybe it was used up and jy decided to let the attorney go.

It could also be that at the 6 month mark, the attorney said - since nothing is happening, I will reimburse the balance of the retainer to you or jy himself made that request.

Hi Jilly,
The defense attorney probably didn't have too much to do after the initial first few weeks...it's not like he was having to coordinate interviews with Jason down at LE headquarters, huh?

 

[jilly]

Hi Jilly,
The defense attorney probably didn't have too much to do after the initial first few weeks...it's not like he was having to coordinate interviews with Jason down at LE headquarters, huh?

Hi Dep! This is what I'm thinking. Aside from looking over the SWs, a few phone calls, maybe a few letters and getting his vehicle back for him there wasn't much.

Out of curiosity, who is this lawyer anyways? - the son of the prominent lawyer in the Duke case? If so, I'm wondering why he got the son. Wasn't it one of jy's friends who had been questioned that recommended this law firm? I would think he would have hired the Senior honcho. Maybe he was too expensive? Like I said...just curious.

 

[DEPUTYDAWG]

Hi Dep! This is what I'm thinking. Aside from looking over the SWs, a few phone calls, maybe a few letters and getting his vehicle back for him there wasn't much.

Out of curiosity, who is this lawyer anyways? - the son of the prominent lawyer in the Duke case? If so, I'm wondering why he got the son. Wasn't it one of jy's friends who had been questioned that recommended this law firm? I would think he would have hired the Senior honcho. Maybe he was too expensive? Like I said...just curious.

I have no clue, but my guess would be exactly as yours. Maybe Daddy Smith also wanted Jr to get more experience, as well? Helping out son, ya know.

 

[The Saint]

jake,

jason sought the counsel of a minister and showed him scratches that he said his wife had given him.

according to you, jason is "weak."

or was jason crafting his murder plot?

just weeks before michelle was murdered, jason told people that "michelle was acting crazy" and he didn't know what to do with her, he told coworkers that she was pestering him at work saying that she heard noises in the backyard, and he showed a pastor scratches that he claimed michelle had given him.

very calculated.
premeditated murder.

 

[The Saint]

i find it puzzling that jake ridicules people seeking help from mental health care professional and ministers, the very people that are comprised of his family members.

he denigrates their chosen professions by saying only the weak seek their help.

 

[chicoliving]

This is getting pretty long so new thread

http://websleuths.com/forums/showthread.php?p=1571520#post1571520