Thread No. 20

[Scout]

Howdy, Taximom. I reckon if you run off everybody who disagrees with other posters on this board, the board will soon be silent. Those "thank you" and "I agree" posts do get boring.

I reckon I don't have the diplomatic skills necessary to please the moderator. (Diplomacy is the ability to tell a person to go to Hell in such a way that he actually looks forward to the trip).

If someone says something stupid, I am apt to say it is stupid.

But like you, I am still praying for justice for Michelle, for Jason, for Cassie, and for the unborn baby.

Jake

Jake, you posted here earlier that investigators took a box of unused condoms from the master bedroom during their search of 5108 Birchleaf. I'm curious about that item. Friends of Michelle Money are said to have been told that Jason used a condom during their sexual encounter. So I wonder if that box of condoms was his for the purpose of using during extramarital sexual encounters rather than something belonging to Jason and Michelle as a couple. You probably wouldn't know anything about that, would you?

 

[The Saint]

Howdy, Taximom. I reckon if you run off everybody who disagrees with other posters on this board, the board will soon be silent. Those "thank you" and "I agree" posts do get boring.

I reckon I don't have the diplomatic skills necessary to please the moderator. (Diplomacy is the ability to tell a person to go to Hell in such a way that he actually looks forward to the trip).

If someone says something stupid, I am apt to say it is stupid.

But like you, I am still praying for justice for Michelle, for Jason, for Cassie, and for the unborn baby.

Jake

jake,

if you are genuine in your desire for justice for michelle, BOTH unborn baby boys and cassidy, then your prayers will be answered
when jason confesses to this brutal murder.

diplomacy or lack thereof is the least of it when considering who will end up in HELL.:furious:
it is an unrepentant killer and the liars who are aiding him to evade answering for what he did that night at 5108 birchleaf
who should be concerned with fire and brimstone.

and i reckon that jason is not looking forward to the trip...

 

[5bigfish5]

jake,

if you are genuine in your desire for justice for michelle, BOTH unborn baby boys and cassidy, then your prayers will be answered
when jason confesses to this brutal murder.

diplomacy or lack thereof is the least of it when considering who will end up in HELL.:furious:
it is an unrepentant killer and the liars who are aiding him to evade answering for what he did that night at 5108 birchleaf
who should be concerned with fire and brimstone.

and i reckon that jason is not looking forward to the trip...

Good Points...One and All.

Now, When is it decided between Heaven and Hell which way the supporters of such an animal will land, OR how much money they will have left in reserve once the truth comes out?

Hopefully the Step-Dad will have enough sense to bail at some point....he isn't getting any younger.

What a sad commentary that greed can destroy so many lives.

5BigFish5

 

[Bellgardin]

I'm still wondering if anyone knows whether or not JY has put in a claim for the life insurance money? It still says a lot to me that it hasn't been paid out.

Hope everyone has a great weekend!!!!

BG

 

[Taximom]

The evidence from the Jennifer Nielsen crime has apparently been sent to the crime lab. She's the murdered pregnant woman stabbed while delivering papers early in the morning. (WS thread: http://www.websleuths.com/forums/showthread.php?t=50541 )

I wonder if they will have to wait as long as we are in this case for forensic processing.

 

[DEPUTYDAWG]

I'm still wondering if anyone knows whether or not JY has put in a claim for the life insurance money? It still says a lot to me that it hasn't been paid out.

Hope everyone has a great weekend!!!!

BG

Hi BG!

I've been wondering about the insurance claim, and probably lack thereof. I guess I'm just "assuming" that he won't be putting a claim in until he's no longer a POI (and fat chance at THAT happening, LOL and IMO). I figure his attorney has already told him that it would be useless (since it probably wouldn't be paid out until he submitted to a depo, and he's NOT going to do that!)...or someone in the Young family just asked general questions with the insurance company and already knows that it wouldn't be successful until the same actions were completed.

That's my take on it; what do you think?
Happy Friday!!!!
DD

 

[jilly]

Hi BG!

I've been wondering about the insurance claim, and probably lack thereof. I guess I'm just "assuming" that he won't be putting a claim in until he's no longer a POI (and fat chance at THAT happening, LOL and IMO). I figure his attorney has already told him that it would be useless (since it probably wouldn't be paid out until he submitted to a depo, and he's NOT going to do that!)...or someone in the Young family just asked general questions with the insurance company and already knows that it wouldn't be successful until the same actions were completed.

That's my take on it; what do you think?
Happy Friday!!!!
DD

Hi Dep!

I agree. I think his attorney has probably advised with respect to the depo.
This guy is such a cowardly :chicken: that imo he won't go near that insurance co with a 10 ft pole. The way he's even apparently ditched his friends and refused to talk about this to anyone tells me he is probably paranoid about saving his own life. He's worth more than any $1million.

 

[Bellgardin]

Hi BG!

I've been wondering about the insurance claim, and probably lack thereof. I guess I'm just "assuming" that he won't be putting a claim in until he's no longer a POI (and fat chance at THAT happening, LOL and IMO). I figure his attorney has already told him that it would be useless (since it probably wouldn't be paid out until he submitted to a depo, and he's NOT going to do that!)...or someone in the Young family just asked general questions with the insurance company and already knows that it wouldn't be successful until the same actions were completed.

That's my take on it; what do you think?
Happy Friday!!!!
DD

Hi DD!

I agree with you!! I'm sure he's been advised that he can't get the insurance money right now and continue to be silent, so he thinks he'll just wait. His attorney is more than aware that they won't pay until he's not a suspect. I'm curious as to how long this situation will stay this way since I'm also pretty sure the ins co. knows about this death from the police. If it goes on too long the ins co can go to the court and have them decide who to pay.

You would be surprised how many people are very vocal about wanting the proceeds even when they know they are under investigation for murder. I had a claim once where a son was the bene of his mother's ins policy and was eventually indicted for the murder of his own mother and the guy's wife called me every week about the money (about $10,000). At first she was polite but right before he was indicted she was calling several times a week threatening to sue me if I didn't pay the claim. They all knew that he was under investigation for murder even though he wasn't officially called a "person of interest" but I think they thought they could bully the co. into paying which did not happen. Of course, now he's in jail!

 

[DEPUTYDAWG]

Hi Dep!

I agree. I think his attorney has probably advised with respect to the depo.
This guy is such a cowardly :chicken: that imo he won't go near that insurance co with a 10 ft pole. The way he's even apparently ditched his friends and refused to talk about this to anyone tells me he is probably paranoid about saving his own life. He's worth more than any $1million.:rolleyes:

Hey Jilly!
Okay, was that even painful for you to type?! :laugh:
He just thinks he's all that, doesn't he? :loser:

 

[DEPUTYDAWG]

Hi DD!

I agree with you!! I'm sure he's been advised that he can't get the insurance money right now and continue to be silent, so he thinks he'll just wait. His attorney is more than aware that they won't pay until he's not a suspect. I'm curious as to how long this situation will stay this way since I'm also pretty sure the ins co. knows about this death from the police. If it goes on too long the ins co can go to the court and have them decide who to pay.

You would be surprised how many people are very vocal about wanting the proceeds even when they know they are under investigation for murder. I had a claim once where a son was the bene of his mother's ins policy and was eventually indicted for the murder of his own mother and the guy's wife called me every week about the money (about $10,000). At first she was polite but right before he was indicted she was calling several times a week threatening to sue me if I didn't pay the claim. They all knew that he was under investigation for murder even though he wasn't officially called a "person of interest" but I think they thought they could bully the co. into paying which did not happen. Of course, now he's in jail!

Mornin' BG!
That's interesting - is there a certain time frame that the ins. company must pay the claim? Like 2 years or ? Or does it vary by policy? Whoa, that could be interesting if the ins. company did that down the road....

 

[jilly]

Hey Jilly!
Okay, was that even painful for you to type?! :laugh:
He just thinks he's all that, doesn't he? :loser:

Come to think of it....it was painful. hehe. Should have added a few :furious: :furious: :furious:
There. That makes me feel better!

 

[jilly]

Mornin' BG!
That's interesting - is there a certain time frame that the ins. company must pay the claim? Like 2 years or ? Or does it vary by policy? Whoa, that could be interesting if the ins. company did that down the road....

Hmmmmm. I don't like the sounds of this. I don't want to see this creep get a dime!!:furious:

 

[DEPUTYDAWG]

Hmmmmm. I don't like the sounds of this. I don't want to see this creep get a dime!!:furious:

I'd love to think they'd award it to Linda as trustee for Cassidy. Don't know where that would be in the odds of things...but I'd much rather think of that than it going to JY!

 

[jilly]

I'd love to think they'd award it to Linda as trustee for Cassidy. Don't know where that would be in the odds of things...but I'd much rather think of that than it going to JY!

I'd go for that! Hopefully, Bellgardin will come back soon!

 

[panthera]

Family of Slain Newspaper Carrier Vows to Change NC Fetal Homicide Laws

RALEIGH, N.C. — The father and husband of a slain pregnant woman vowed Friday to do everything in their power to change North Carolina's fetal homicide law, which bars prosecutors from seeking double murder charges.

"This is the murder of two human beings," said Kevin Blaine, whose daughter, Jennifer Nielsen, was eight months pregnant when she was killed two weeks ago.

"There's no reason an unborn child shouldn't be recognized in the case of a homicide," he said. Added Nielsen's husband, Tim: "It needs to be changed, and it needs to be changed as soon as possible."

Jennifer Nielsen, 22, was pregnant with her third child when she was found dead behind a Raleigh convenience store in the early morning hours of June 14. Authorities said she had been stabbed in the neck.

http://www.wral.com/news/state/story/1546058/


Now, if Jason Young is so innocent of Michelle's murder, why didn't he try to do anything to change the law since Michelle and her unborn child were killed last November??

 

[jilly]

Now, if Jason Young is so innocent of Michelle's murder, why didn't he try to do anything to change the law since Michelle and her unborn child were killed last November??

Good to see you here again panthera! Thanks for this link.

You're absolutely right! He's done absolutely squat!:furious:

 

[panthera]

Good to see you here again panthera! Thanks for this link.

You're absolutely right! He's done absolutely squat!:furious:

Hi again!! I've been around on different forums since not much as been going on with Michelle's case, unfortunately. I just found this article in regard to yet another murdered pregnant woman and it made me think about Jason Young's seemingly total lack of concern for Michelle and their unborn child. It speaks volumes to me.

 

[Bellgardin]

Mornin' BG!
That's interesting - is there a certain time frame that the ins. company must pay the claim? Like 2 years or ? Or does it vary by policy? Whoa, that could be interesting if the ins. company did that down the road....

Hi again! Hope everyone had a great weekend!

Unfortunately, there is no set answer because these situations are handled on a case by case basis. There are many different things that can happen-the bene(suspect) can sue the ins co to try to force them to release the proceeds to them (like Justin Barber) or the family can sue to stop the proceeds from being released to them (Kathleen Peterson). It's not a quick or easy thing to solve. However, I'm intrigued in this case because no claim has been made for the ins money.

There are statutes that set guidelines for interest and what the amt of interest is and what the start period is for the interest-so many days from receipt of proof of death or notice of death, date of death, etc... But every state is different and has different rules. However, I don't believe that any claim has been made, but you can bet that the ins co is aware of this case from the police. I don't know what the interest rate is(or if it is even required in NC-I don't remember!) but if the co is required to pay interest, they may not want to wait 2 or 4 or 5 years, they are going to want to pay the money eventually to someone. That's where it would get tricky and the court would probably get involved and what would happen is anyone's guess.

I've wondered more than once why the reporters have not touched on this aspect of this story. To me, it seems obvious that despite the JY "camp" trying to spin issues such as condoms, mysterious footprints and unidentified fingerprints in the MBR as showing he is NOT a poi or suspect in the eyes of LE, he still is or he would have claimed and been paid the ins money by now, period, end of story. That's my opinion anyway.

 

[strach304]

I'm glad to see you weigh in on this again Bellgardin as I hoped you would. After all this time imo this is a much more remarkable aspect in comparison to the early days where a claim had not been filed. Can't help but ask now especially in consideration of Cassidy's needs why no claim? I'm sure LE is baffled by this as well. Possible that a claim has been filed and we don't know about it? He has a good lawyer or so it's been said, can't he advise on it and protect his clients interest?

 

[DEPUTYDAWG]

I've wondered more than once why the reporters have not touched on this aspect of this story. To me, it seems obvious that despite the JY "camp" trying to spin issues such as condoms, mysterious footprints and unidentified fingerprints in the MBR as showing he is NOT a poi or suspect in the eyes of LE, he still is or he would have claimed and been paid the ins money by now, period, end of story. That's my opinion anyway.

Thanks, BG! I, as well as others, appreciate your insight on this subject. :clap:

Waiting patiently for justice for Michelle...