Thread No. 20

[SueY]

That house isn't a bargain - it is a nightmare come true.

And, from the pictures at http://trianglelistings.marketlinx....rchleaf+Dr.&StreetDir=&Src=prtbuy&bBuyer=true it's about as decluttered as JY apparently wanted his life.

 

[The Saint]

Michelle was pregnant with cassidy (jason's Mini Me) when they were married.
If jason were a virgin when he got married, several months before the official wedding ceremony,
michelle must have said to jason "I'll marry you. I'll marry you. i'll marry you." like in Cold Mountain
for that to be true.

maybe that is why a certain poster at CTV said they had 2 weddings.

 

[Jubal]

Welcome Jubal. Interesting questions. I'm sorry to say I have no answers however I suspect that given the husband refused to talk with LE he most likely also refused LE any access to anything involving the child directly. The rapidity with which the child was removed from the area and away from the maternal side of her family also makes it doubtful that any direct testing was done. However, it is possible LE could have obtained samples from her hair brush, toothbrush, or several other sources from inside of the home. Perhaps it has been done.

Thanks for the welcome...

Jake is certainly the first person I have heard call into question the paternity of the minor child.

 

[DEPUTYDAWG]

Thanks for the welcome...

Jake is certainly the first person I have heard call into question the paternity of the minor child.

Sometimes those on the fringe that are trying to help, do more harm. I can say I've seen that happen over and over and over throughout the years.

 

[spring]

Sometimes those on the fringe that are trying to help, do more harm. I can say I've seen that happen over and over and over throughout the years.

that's what i was attempting to ask jake yesterday. all he would say was there would be no trial.

unless jy confesses, i think there will be a trial. and when that time comes, i think it will come into play how his family and friends trashed the fishers in an attempt to deflect. i think it points even more to his guilt.

 

[DEPUTYDAWG]

that's what i was attempting to ask jake yesterday. all he would say was there would be no trial.

unless jy confesses, i think there will be a trial. and when that time comes, i think it will come into play how his family and friends trashed the fishers in an attempt to deflect. i think it points even more to his guilt.

Stepping back somewhat...think about this.

If it was a friend or family member of yours in the same situation as Jason, and you knew he has been told by legal counsel to keep his mouth shut and not discuss the key points with anyone...would you disrespect his serious situation and discuss the case with anyone, let alone people you didn't know (and who they know, and what their connections may be back to Raleigh?!).

 

[jake]

Thank you all for helping me show others how ridiculous rumors can be. Nice of you to help out.

 

[SueY]

Stepping back somewhat...think about this.
If it was a friend or family member of yours in the same situation as Jason, and you knew he has been told by legal counsel to keep his mouth shut and not discuss the key points with anyone...would you disrespect his serious situation and discuss the case with anyone, let alone people you didn't know (and who they know, and what their connections may be back to Raleigh?!).

This is one of the many things that bother me about this case, DD. I can't help but wonder if JY is not the conductor of the orchestra.

 

[jake]

Tell me, what exactly have you done to disprove the ring swallowing story ? Been digging around in, well, you know what. Find all that missing jewelry yet?

Apocryphal stories are impossible to authenticate. The ring story as told is not true. A friend was spending the weekend. Jason asked to see her engagement ring. He pretended to swallow it. That's all.

 

[jake]

Elucidate? Whoa.
Careful teacher, I might not have the intellect to keep up with you.
I read a lot.
I like to read so much I'll read matchbook covers!
Hence, I read Jason's sister's comment about everything. I read it in November, same as everyone else.
However, all of that information has since been removed--again, probably not coincidentally--from the Court TV message boards, a main source of information for me and others.
Fortunately, I read for comprehension, so I remember both content and context of every word that was written by Jason's sister.
Her rendition of said "accident" was quite different than the one you're trying mightily to peddle here.

So, bring it on and let's see it. I'll ask JTF for her version. This won't take long.

 

[jake]

Jilly,

That's an interesting thought. I realize not everyone has an interest or experience in true crime, but for those who do follow it due to an interest or a career - it IS relatively rare for a crime victim, such as the spouse of a murdered wife, to NOT make any statements, public outcries, victim's rights appearances, etc. They may or may not do it in the first few days, but most will after a few weeks or a few months.

Which makes me wonder whether Jason elected to take the services provided by victim's services counselors and other resources. They are wonderful programs that can really benefit family members. If he didn't and won't even talk to them, hmmm.

As I said yesterday, the silence does indeed speak volumes to me. It is uncommon human behavior for a family member. Yet fringe players of the POI feel they can help his case? Not so much, as is evident. Especially when the POI won't even talk to them. So what would they know about critical details?

JMO.

"victim's services counselors"? Are you serious? Lean on yourself man, and on your friends, relatives, your church. Why do you go to strangers to help you?? Weak, man, weak.

I hope you will publish your manual detailing how to act in situations like this. It'll be good for a laugh.

 

[jake]

ok, yes, we know nobody is as good a rafter as the rest of your family, but jy had done it in the past.

Wrong again.

 

[jake]

And I suppose Michelle allowed her medical info. to be released to you?
Get real. You know nothing except what you overhear the ladies discussing. Remember Jakey...Jason ain't talking.

His mother does.

 

[jake]

Nope. 3rd pregnancy not on purpose.

I know.

 

[DEPUTYDAWG]

This is one of the many things that bother me about this case, DD. I can't help but wonder if JY is not the conductor of the orchestra.

That's an interesting thought.

I'd like to think that Jason, being smart and all, would know better than that, especially since it is his future freedom at risk.

Plus, you'd think he'd would want this to die down on the message boards, not keep stirring it up on several different boards. And, I'd think it's apparent to most reasonable people that the current "JY is innocent" blitzes are backfiring. I haven't seen a huge swell of case followers changing their opinions, even after reading months of a few fringe players' comments and deflections.

 

[jake]

that's what i was attempting to ask jake yesterday. all he would say was there would be no trial.

unless jy confesses, i think there will be a trial. and when that time comes, i think it will come into play how his family and friends trashed the fishers in an attempt to deflect. i think it points even more to his guilt.

Well, Spring, obviously it is just my opinion. No trial. The killers will confess.

 

[liveoutloud]

So, bring it on and let's see it. I'll ask JTF for her version. This won't take long.

Did you overlook the part where I said the posts had disappeared? I am going from memory? Do please bring on JTF and thanks for confirming her identity too, by the way. It will be interesting to see if she has maintained her righteous indignation re: Jason's innocence. Oh, and do you have an answer for me yet on just exactly how Jason would have known he was the only guy from his graduating class at NCSU who was still a virgin upon marrying? Did he take a poll? Did you? Are you the local parish priest? Just asking. TIA

 

[panthera]

No, deaths inside a home are not material fact so they don't have to be disclosed at all.

This is good for the seller but since the address has been posted on the Internet I wouldn't be surprised if many potential buyers would already know that a murder had taken place in the bedroom last November.

 

[citygirl]

Well, Spring, obviously it is just my opinion. No trial. The killers will confess.

I get this feeling that you think the more you say this, the more it will come true. Just who are you trying to convince ?

 

[DEPUTYDAWG]

"victim's services counselors"? Are you serious? Lean on yourself man, and on your friends, relatives, your church. Why do you go to strangers to help you?? Weak, man, weak.

I hope you will publish your manual detailing how to act in situations like this. It'll be good for a laugh.

Weak? Jake, did you know there are federal, state and local programs to help all victims of crimes - auto, battery, fire, murder, etc. They help with all kinds of steps...including financial assistance. Seems to me it could help Jason.

You have probably just offended any and/or all victims of crime who have used the resources of these programs. I would bet this Jason situation is your first experience with homicide and knowing victims of such a brutal murder. Hmmm, many of us have experience in these situations.

Personally, those experiences will carry me through the thought of what is normal, strong, etc. for victims of crime. If I get banned for telling you how offensive your comments are to crime victims, so be it. The big picture is what I have my eye on - justice for Michelle.

The manuals? Already written by others. As I said, federal and state programs. It takes people with compassion and true real life knowledge (vs academic smarts, for instance) to assist people at the lowest times of their lives. IMO, of course.