TH's emails shed light on Horman split

[For The Kids]

I've known people like that too. Passive-aggressive / martyr types who take it all quietly until they reach their limit, and when they do blow, they blow BIG.

No idea if Terri was like that or not.

I don't think it's any particular person's fault. I'm sure there's enough to go around. Two to tango, as they say.

Just from what I've seen of Kaine, and how Terri appears, they seem to me to be polar opposites. Even Desiree hinted at that when talking about Kaine's structured discipline style. I can see where they'd be at each other ... a lot.

Even so...NONE of that gives Terri a right to do anything whatsoever to Kyron. He was not much more than a baby and hadnt done anything wrong

 

[Calliope]

It's kinda funny to me that Terri is assumed to be a liar, while Kaine is assumed to be 'clueless' or whatever.

FWIW, when I said "clueless", I was referring to Kaine repeatedly stating he never noticed anything out of the ordinary, everything was normal and good and routine --- even as his wife was allegedly planning to have him murdered.

 

[Chablis]

note to self: do not email your closest friends to vent about life.

I have a good idea who Terri emailed.

There is nothing wrong with venting about your life to friends. I think the better suggestion would be, dont vent to your friends about a guy you are being accused of trying to kill, and then have your step son go missing, and fail lie detector tests, and have cops holding press conferences using pictures of the truck and asking for your whereabouts. No one should be protecting Terri, especially not her "friends" Kyron is a little bit more important than Terri Horman and anyone who has sketchy emails from her should do the RIGHT thing and forward them to the LE, the news, whatever, get the info out about this woman!

 

[Calliope]

Even so...NONE of that gives Terri a right to do anything whatsoever to Kyron. He was not much more than a baby and hadnt done anything wrong

Goodness. I never said it did. =\

 

[For The Kids]

Did he move on before or after Kyron disappeared? IIRC her mother came to stay with Terri almost right away and her father came later as well, and they might have thought it was better to have him out of that house. If it was difficult for him to be in the Horman household prior to Kyron going missing it was bound to be worse afterwards, for everyone.

Basically her mother was saying he lived with her but from what his father said he was in fact living with him.

 

[Donjeta]

Trust me I'm not saying that T is all pure & whatnot...she certainly does make some odd choices to say the least....but we cannot say for certain that she is a liar (at this point), because we are hearing all this stuff 2nd, 3rd, 4th hand and have NO clue what the original facts are...but we can now say for certain that Kaine is.

I think this sort of discrepancy doesn't always mean that anybody is lying. It's possible that everyone is telling the truth as they see it, they just see it differently. People in familial stand-offish situations quite often think that what they do is right and what the other guy is doing is wrong, everything is the other guy's fault, and they totally fail to see the other guy's perspective. It doesn't make them liars, necessarily, just human, exaggerating their own virtue and painting the other person they're mad at blacker than necessary.

The objective truth may be somewhere in the middle.

 

[For The Kids]

Maybe J being sent away wasn't the motive for taking Kyron but rather his response was what gave her the idea to do so.

Maybe she believed Kyron was 'suffering' ... and felt she had to get him away from Kaine, too.

Problem is its not her job to be judge and jury. If she felt Kyron had to get away from Kaine she could simply have gone to Kyrons mother about any worries she had. Instead she has chosen not to do this and i fail to see...in whatever has happened to Kyron that he hasnt suffered since being taken from all that he knows..

 

[Tuffy]

I think this sort of discrepancy doesn't always mean that anybody is lying. It's possible that everyone is telling the truth as they see it, they just see it differently. People in familial stand-offish situations quite often think that what they do is right and what the other guy is doing is wrong, everything is the other guy's fault, and they totally fail to see the other guy's perspective. It doesn't make them liars, necessarily, just human, exaggerating their own virtue and painting the other person they're mad at blacker than necessary.

The objective truth may be somewhere in the middle.

There is Terri's version and Kaine's version of what went on with J at their home and why he wasn't happy. There is also another side, J's. As the mother of two one teen and one who is now past teen stage, I can attest to the fact that they don't always tell you how they really feel. Sometimes they tell you what they think you want to hear.

If he wasn't happy at home, and was offered an out, he may have taken it regardless of the reason. It may not have even been a big, dramatic reason. We just don't know, and possibly his parents don't really know. Whatever the reason, Terri felt that sending him away was really wrong. And yet she did it.

 

[Ellebelle]

How does one go from D's to A's in one month? I think she's full of crap.

She also seemed to be full of resentment but why not just leave Kaine? Instead she sends her son away and writes nasty emails about her husband.

What if this source is the landscaper?

In the words of my aunt, a teacher, "everyone starts out fresh with A's. It's up to the student if the A is kept throughout the year." True. Wondering what his grades are now?

 

[Sherazhad]

I have a feeling that Kaine did know there was trouble in his marriage. I sense guilt when he speaks & even though I'm not convinced Terri abducted Kyron, I believe that Kaine genuinely believes this & I think he feels guilt because he brought Terri in2 their home. He also mentioned terri's depression which can cause real problems in a marriage. I think Kaine feels bad that there were red flags his marriage wasn't right, but he buried hiws head in the sand

 

[tehcloser]

I think Terri and Kaine have been heading for a train wreck for a long time. And they BOTH knew it.

 

[Etilema]

Why is she sending an email to KATU two months before Kyron disappeared? Did she anticipate that far in advance that he was going to go missing? I am really freaked out by this.

By "KATU news source" they mean a "source" who provided the info to KATU news. It's very confusing wording, but they have started using that phrase in that way recently.

 

[Calliope]

Problem is its not her job to be judge and jury. If she felt Kyron had to get away from Kaine she could simply have gone to Kyrons mother about any worries she had. Instead she has chosen not to do this and i fail to see...in whatever has happened to Kyron that he hasnt suffered since being taken from all that he knows..

I agree. And just to be clear, I am NOT saying Kaine was abusive or Kyron WAS suffering. But if in her mind he was, then this may have been the motive if she disappeared Kyron. IMO it would also be far easier to get others to assist in some 'noble' mission than it would be to find 2 or more people to assist and/or coverup kidnapping and murder.

 

[Ellebelle]

I'm not sure about Kaine realizing there was trouble in his marriage. If he did realize, it's obvious to me he didn't realize just how troubled. I've known guys that just sit there and hope it all blows by. Amazes me each time.

The one thing that is really messing with my mind is thinking that Terri borrowed Kaine's truck for evil reasons, and wondering if she would sit back and smile to herself when Kaine would later drive it, knowing Kyron's last trip was in his dad's truck. JMO

 

[human]

Which is it? Went to live in Roseburg in January, March or April?

Why would you have the boy J come for a scheduled family visit the week of June 5 when school is not out? A boy who had poor grades, changed schools and now leaves school for a week when finals are happening or soon to happen?

 

[Emeralgem]

Message for Terri..
So which is it?

You sent your son to go live with your parents or Kaine made your son leave...

Personally, I'm grateful your EGO is sabotaging it's self and won't allow you to keep your stories straight...JMO

 

[Aedrys]

It sounds like he got shuffled a lot between at least three if not four homes. I feel bad for him. Kids need a solid home to give them a sense of security. To be moved around so many times, he must think he doesn't have a real home. And apparently it was better to send him away than fix what was wrong. To me, it's just not right to shuffle the kid when the parents are the ones with the problems. Parents should be adults and do what's best for their kids, but often that is just not the case. And I don't think it was the case for J or for poor Kyron.

 

[Sherazhad]

The one thing I do beleive is that Terri genuinely loved Kyron. If she is involved in his disappearance, I feel it was to get him away from Kaine. I'm not saying Kaine abused his son, but if she's mentally ill, she may have convinced herself of this. No way could she have roped in her friends to murder a child. To rescue a child they've been convinced has been abused is another thing. the conviction of Kaine's brother for child abuse could have fixed this further in their mind. I want to reiterate that it doesn't mean Kaine abused Kyron, but terri & her friends may believe this & knowing terri would not win custody of kyron they have took him away, maybe to another state. This email shows she believes kaine has not been a good parent to her son & that she is trying to win support & vent to her friends.

 

[ThoughtFox]

One parent blaming another for a child's grades just sounds like rubbish to me. JMO

Most teenagers go through times when their grades fluctuate no matter how smart they are or how much help they have. Could be a personality conflict with a teacher or just not getting enough sleep! Most teenagers are distracted by peer problems and just hormones on a good day. Any parent of a teen will tell you that, and I've had three teenagers so far - my youngest just started high school yesterday!

What's interesting is that usually mothers blame themselves when their child does poorly. To blame a stepfather who has two biological children of his own is lame.

Maybe Terri was too busy with her own extracurricular activities to help her son with his homework? She seems to have lots of time to write emails and send pictures of herself. :angel:

 

[ThoughtFox]

Message for Terri..
So which is it?

You sent your son to go live with your parents or Kaine made your son leave...

Personally, I'm grateful your EGO is sabotaging it's self and won't allow you to keep your stories straight...JMO

:dance: LOL