Tim Bosma: Dellen Millard & Mark Smich chgd w/Murder; Christina Noudga, Accessory #3

[Tamarind]

I find that quote interesting as well. IMO, the accused shouldn't be too worried about what's being reported in MSM but rather focus on the disclosure documents since that's really the evidence the Crown has to proceed with the case. The disclosure is what the AG saw to proceed with her direct indictment ruling.
I find it interesting that DM's concerned about MSM reports-perhaps simply an ego thing?

I think ANY accused will be concerned at what the press is reporting. What they report affects the accused greatly. Not only by way of creating a negative view of accused but also by putting unsubstantiated information out there for undue scrutiny. I don't see anything that suggests its an ego thing.

IMHO, LE have done an incredible job keeping things under wraps with this case and MSM articles have been few and far between. This isn't a case that we hear on the news everyday. DM does make an interesting point though. He does seem to be viewing MSM articles as "facts" and then goes onto say the MSM articles don't line up with the evidence that LE have collected and disclosed to him. So, MSM obviously have a few things wrong?

Are they keeping things under wraps or is the alleged evidence so limited that its not worth sharing.DM didnt write the article so we have no way of saying for sure that he claimed the press reported 'facts'. I think the reporter is having a good time forming articles to create an impact. DM may well have simply said that the press articles are nothing like whats in the disclosure. JMO

IMO, DM should be more concerned with those disclosure documents than anything reported in MSM.

If you keep repeating something long enough , it starts to be believed by some at least.

TB put his truck for sale on kijiji and auto trader ( Fact judging by a kijiji ad)
DM called TB with a burner phone ( We dont know this is a fact)
DM and MS went to TB's house ( We can only assume this was a fact)
There wasn't a 3rd person ( We don't know this is a fact)
The Yukon made the trip ( We don't know this is a fact)
TB was found at the farm ( We need the evidence to prove this is a fact)
TB was burnt ( We need the evidence to prove this is fact)
There was an incinerator ( Appears to be fact but circumstances around it have not been proven as fact)
TB's truck was found in a trailer at DM's mothers house. ( Appears to be fact)
DM was the youngest person to get a helicopter and fixed wing pilots license in one day. (Appears to be fact)
DM went to Toronto French School ( Appears to be fact)
DM has a tattoo ( Appears to be fact)
DM took another truck for a test drive ( Not proven to be fact)

IMHO, these are the recurring so called "facts" that MSM keep reporting and that DM insists don't match up with the disclosure documents he's been given. Interesting. Feel free to add more "MSM facts". MOO

I think its very interesting that DM is saying that what is in the press is inaccurate when compared to his disclosure. Very interesting indeed.

 

[matou]

The Yukon did make the trip. This was reported on May 22 2013 when the arrest of Smich was announced.

 

[matou]

Why is anyone disputing that TB was burned or his body found at the farm?

 

[matou]

LOL at this:

They show signs that their author learned to write in French, as Millard did at the private Toronto French School. These include the use of the French numeral 7 and the failure to capitalize Tuesday (days of the week are not capitalized in French).

I think this is a nice "attempt" at excusing his poor writing skills. JMO Did he write the word "sept" instead of "seven" or is there a French digit for 7? Not sure and I'm French.

http://news.nationalpost.com/2015/0...n-to-world-of-fast-cars-and-exotic-adventure/

 

[Sillybilly]

Are they keeping things under wraps or is the alleged evidence so limited that its not worth sharing.DM didnt write the article so we have no way of saying for sure that he claimed the press reported 'facts'. I think the reporter is having a good time forming articles to create an impact. DM may well have simply said that the press articles are nothing like whats in the disclosure. JMO

<rs&bbm>

In the 'Innocence' letter DM states:

... but what I will say, is that "the facts" they keep repeating, don't match the disclosure I am given ...

 

[Sillybilly]

Why is anyone disputing that TB was burned or his body found at the farm?

Because everyone is lying except DM ??

 

[Sillybilly]

Interesting that DM's uncle doesn't wish the daughter to be in contact with DM for some reason:

from:
http://news.nationalpost.com/2015/0...n-to-world-of-fast-cars-and-exotic-adventure/

He goes against the wishes of his uncle and tries to finagle a visit from his 18-year-old cousin. &#8220;I would really like to know what&#8217;s going on with her,&#8221; he tells a friend.

 

[Tamarind]

The Yukon did make the trip. This was reported on May 22 2013 when the arrest of Smich was announced.

I'm glad you raised this sillybilly. The Yukon made which trip?

The trip to Bosma home or the trip from Bosma home?

 

[Tamarind]

Interesting that DM's uncle doesn't wish the daughter to be in contact with DM for some reason:

from:
http://news.nationalpost.com/2015/0...n-to-world-of-fast-cars-and-exotic-adventure/

Maybe the uncle has had enough of the mudslinging from the press and feels that allowing his daughter to go to the jail or receive letters, would spark another pile of mud to be slung. Just a hunch. You cant trust whether a letter will reach its destination it seems. I don't think the letters (if they are authentic) were ever sent, at least the ones sent from the jail. JMO

 

[Tamarind]

<rs&bbm>

In the 'Innocence' letter DM states:

Maybe DM did the gesture of quotation marks with his hands if he made any statement about ''facts'' in the press? Highly likely IMO

 

[Tamarind]

LOL at this:



I think this is a nice "attempt" at excusing his poor writing skills. JMO Did he write the word "sept" instead of "seven" or is there a French digit for 7? Not sure and I'm French.

http://news.nationalpost.com/2015/0...n-to-world-of-fast-cars-and-exotic-adventure/

Or maybe its an attempt to make it look like his handwriting. Strange as he is known to put capitals where they don't belong not omit them. Just an observation.

 

[Tamarind]

Why is anyone disputing that TB was burned or his body found at the farm?

Maybe because there is only LE statement in regard to this and so far this evidence has not been proven in court, forensic results need to be verified. JMO

 

[swedie]

Trust issues? Could this be one reason why DM hasn't retained DP yet? MOO.

Millard expresses suspicions that his lawyer may not be passing on his letters.

 

[swedie]

He must be adjusting to his life behind bars fairly well. He has even convinced many guards and prisoners he is not guilty. Assuming then that those guards are treating him well. Nowhere in these letters does he suggest he is being physically tortured or mistreated by guards.

He is obviously aware of what is going on with some of the other inmates and in great detail. So much so he had a sneak peak at the horrors of a suicidal inmates cell. Might have been what he saw while walking the corridor or through his slot in the door. If he is guilty of murdering TB, I wonder what he thought about that murder scene? Did they try and keep it pretty?

In regards to the methadone treatment, DM is familiar with the procedure. Makes me wonder if he was through this procedure. All MOO.

Throughout his letters, Millard makes multiple references to how he has convinced many of the guards and prisoners that he did not kill Bosma,

I had a look at the cell he had been in. It wasn’t pretty. It looked like a B horror movie director had gone ridiculously overboard.

Some prisoners get a daily dose of methadone. They don’t take it in their cells. They are locked in the showers to take it. This is so that they can’t vomit it back up, and sell it.

http://news.nationalpost.com/2015/0...n-to-world-of-fast-cars-and-exotic-adventure/

 

[Alethea Dice]

I find that quote interesting as well. IMO, the accused shouldn't be too worried about what's being reported in MSM but rather focus on the disclosure documents since that's really the evidence the Crown has to proceed with the case. The disclosure is what the AG saw to proceed with her direct indictment ruling.
I find it interesting that DM's concerned about MSM reports-perhaps simply an ego thing?
IMHO, LE have done an incredible job keeping things under wraps with this case and MSM articles have been few and far between. This isn't a case that we hear on the news everyday. DM does make an interesting point though. He does seem to be viewing MSM articles as "facts" and then goes onto say the MSM articles don't line up with the evidence that LE have collected and disclosed to him. So, MSM obviously have a few things wrong?
IMO, DM should be more concerned with those disclosure documents than anything reported in MSM.
"the facts" that keep getting repeated in MSM? OK, what are the facts that MSM keep saying?
TB put his truck for sale on kijiji and auto trader
DM called TB with a burner phone
DM and MS went to TB's house
There wasn't a 3rd person
The Yukon made the trip
TB was found at the farm
TB was burnt
There was an incinerator
TB's truck was found in a trailer at DM's mothers house.
DM was the youngest person to get a helicopter and fixed wing pilots license in one day.
DM went to Toronto French School
DM has a tattoo
DM took another truck for a test drive

IMHO, these are the recurring so called "facts" that MSM keep reporting and that DM insists don't match up with the disclosure documents he's been given. Interesting. Feel free to add more "MSM facts". MOO

I can't imagine an accused not being concerned about what is reported in MSM, especially if those alleged "facts" don't match the disclosure, as it can affect their chance of a fair trial. If those "facts" that have been reported are not part of the disclosure, then they have nothing to do with the crime and only serve to taint the minds of the public. As an extreme example, if the incinerator was not used in any crime, it is still established in the minds of people who may eventually form part of a jury, even if the existence of that incinerator is not brought up at the trial.

We need to remember that, during at least a large part of the time these letters were allegedly written (between June 2013 to March 2014), this case was pretty much in the news almost every day. At the beginning, it was pretty constant - then when LE went back to search a second time - right up until the charges were laid for the murders of WM and LB.

In part:

If it wasn't DM who made the call to TB with the burner phone, that would be a false "fact".
The 3rd person or lack of one isn't a proven "fact" yet. First there was a 3rd and maybe more, then it died down to maybe there wasn't anyone at all.
I still don't know if DM's tattoo has a box or not.

JMO

 

[Alethea Dice]

The Yukon did make the trip. This was reported on May 22 2013 when the arrest of Smich was announced.

They did not know at first what the vehicle was on video, only that it appeared to be an SUV type vehicle. I'm sure the video was enhanced to determine more specifically what vehicle it was. But who drove it there and away as it followed them from TB's driveway? First it was driven away by one or more people. Now it was either driven away by a ghost or one of the accused got out at the end of the driveway to follow separately.

JMO

 

[Alethea Dice]

LOL at this:


I think this is a nice "attempt" at excusing his poor writing skills. JMO Did he write the word "sept" instead of "seven" or is there a French digit for 7? Not sure and I'm French.

http://news.nationalpost.com/2015/0...n-to-world-of-fast-cars-and-exotic-adventure/

I assume she means the European way of putting a line through the 7 to distinguish it from how they write the number 1. However, having said that, I found the article was written in such a way as to influence the reader to agree with her opinions.

JMO

 

[Alethea Dice]

He must be adjusting to his life behind bars fairly well. He has even convinced many guards and prisoners he is not guilty. Assuming then that those guards are treating him well. Nowhere in these letters does he suggest he is being physically tortured or mistreated by guards.

He is obviously aware of what is going on with some of the other inmates and in great detail. So much so he had a sneak peak at the horrors of a suicidal inmates cell. Might have been what he saw while walking the corridor or through his slot in the door. If he is guilty of murdering TB, I wonder what he thought about that murder scene? Did they try and keep it pretty?

In regards to the methadone treatment, DM is familiar with the procedure. Makes me wonder if he was through this procedure. All MOO.

Throughout his letters, Millard makes multiple references to how he has convinced many of the guards and prisoners that he did not kill Bosma,

I had a look at the cell he had been in. It wasn’t pretty. It looked like a B horror movie director had gone ridiculously overboard.

Some prisoners get a daily dose of methadone. They don’t take it in their cells. They are locked in the showers to take it. This is so that they can’t vomit it back up, and sell it.

http://news.nationalpost.com/2015/0...n-to-world-of-fast-cars-and-exotic-adventure/

Apparently, he has a different idea of the procedure for giving out methadone than other inmates. Or it changes depending on circumstances. Or he's just making conversation and offering a reason for the problem of the day.

On a cold January morning, five or so men in orange jumpsuits are propped up on the counters of the visiting area, just off the jail's main lobby. Usually, this is where inmates get their twice-weekly 20-minute visits with family or friends.

Today, it is doubling as the methadone clinic.

You can't get methadone (used to treat addictions to opioid drugs such as heroin) in jail unless you were already on the program before your arrest. In the past six months, about 43 Barton inmates have been given a daily methadone dose.

Afterward, the correctional officers make them wait 20 minutes before escorting them back to their cells to make sure it's digested. Otherwise, an inmate might "sell" it, trading for things like extra meals or chocolate bars from the canteen.

http://www.thespec.com/news-story/4413905-barton-jail-on-the-other-side-of-the-fence/

JMO

 

[Arnie M]

They did not know at first what the vehicle was on video, only that it appeared to be an SUV type vehicle. I'm sure the video was enhanced to determine more specifically what vehicle it was. But who drove it there and away as it followed them from TB's driveway? First it was driven away by one or more people. Now it was either driven away by a ghost or one of the accused got out at the end of the driveway to follow separately.

JMO

In the early days of the search police said they had a video of Tim's truck , and it was being followed by an "SUV type" vehicle but they could not give an accurate description as to make and model

Once they knew the approximate route was through Brantford they probably found more tapes from area businesses that are more detailed ..... that would be my guess anyway.

 

[Juballee]

I find it interesting that the source of the letters is still a mystery. Anonymous is such a slippery word, in my opinion. The anonymous source could have been someone known to DM or someone catfishing him for some unknown reason. I am puzzled that the letters were verified by the CEO of MillardAir, when I thought MB was acting as CEO? I doubt that she would help a reporter verify letters that were going to be published.

I remained uncertain after reading, if these letters were passed through the official prison channels or if they were passed by the lawyers. I would think that if they were passed by the lawyers, that there would have been an additional charge against DM, like there was for MS?

I am curious how someone can be both naive and manipulative simultaneously? Was his naivety due to the fact that he trusted people not to exploit him further by releasing his personal letters to the media? I wonder if the anonymous source did it for free or if they received a payment of some form?

Unless having these letters released is part of some grand master manipulation plan by DM himself, then I would agree that his mum is right and he is too trusting of others. Which could be how he got in this mess to begin with, in my opinion.

I saw nothing in these snippets of letters to indicate that he is manipulative, arrogant or hated any family members. Maybe the parts that show the manipulation were edited out? After all, we don't know the context of any of the whole version of any of these letters, if they are answering questions posed in letters from the anonymous correspondent or if they are quotes he read somewhere. Context is very important, in my opinion; someone could eliminate the words "according to Hitler..." before quoting a line one spoke and ruin a reputation forever.