Tim Bosma: Dellen Millard & Mark Smich chgd w/Murder; Christina Noudga, Accessory #3

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  • #421
Then there is someone with a receipt and bill of sale for Tims truck .... they better come forward to claim it and demand to know where the missing seats are.

Even if there was no one else who showed up later, there is still the possibility that DM was the one following in the Yukon and, as Kavanaugh said when they first found out about the Yukon, only played a minor role. We will have to wait until the trial to find out what role the Yukon played and who was driving it. All we know at this point is that Kavanaugh suggested that MS could have got out of TB's truck and into the Yukon and there may not be a third suspect. He could very well have based that assumption on the fact that it was said the tall one was driving the truck when they left. Kavanaugh also said that they did not know who was driving or how many were in TB's truck when it was seen in Brantford.

JMO
 
  • #422
You're suggesting that DM was charged with two other murders so LE could seal their case against DM for murdering TB? Okaaaaay then. Here I was guessing he was charged with two other murders because they have some evidence that he committed two other murders. I must be way off. :facepalm:

General (not directed at a particular poster): Boy, the DM defense team has been particularly relentless lately. I know how hard it must be to admit, even to oneself, that someone you thought you knew isn't who you thought they were. But constantly arguing his innocence, under the guise of being champions of the wrongfully accused, just shows everyone why you were fooled to begin with.

I certainly hope they do have some good evidence for those other two charges, and are not just hoping that the first charges will help to boost the limited evidence that they have. Unfortunately, we have no idea yet what that evidence might be. Nothing has been released regarding those two cases.

Why do you continue to suggest that posters with questions and doubts know the accused, and that they are his "defense team"? Surely you don't believe that his defense team is actually discussing the case on this forum? If not, this "defense team" must be extremely underpaid. I've seen nothing here that indicates anyone personally knows the accused.

JMO
 
  • #423
Seriously, I doubt that DM had another side to the story aside for "it wasn't me". But that's just MHO. IMO, IF DP became aware that DM knew who was responsible for the murder of TB and wasn't saying anything that he could be guilty of obstructing justice. Remember, DP said they were simply going to wait and see what evidence LE had? Can't help but think that this may have been a well orchestrated plot by DM and LE's interpretation isn't in line with the way DM saw it unfolding, so now DM is saying..."hey, this is the way it's suppose to look!"
I'm willing to presume him innocent until a jury finds him guilty. Heck, I'll even be the first in line at his "wrongful prosecution" lawsuit, if that time ever came.
IMHO, I'll put my faith in DNA and digital forensics. Funny how everyone in his life is "staying alive" these days. MOO

A week and a half later, the day of the memorial, LE said they were still looking for the second suspect. The same day, during the memorial, MS was arrested.
 
  • #424
You're suggesting that DM was charged with two other murders so LE could seal their case against DM for murdering TB? Okaaaaay then. Here I was guessing he was charged with two other murders because they have some evidence that he committed two other murders. I must be way off. :facepalm:

General (not directed at a particular poster): Boy, the DM defense team has been particularly relentless lately. I know how hard it must be to admit, even to oneself, that someone you thought you knew isn't who you thought they were. But constantly arguing his innocence, under the guise of being champions of the wrongfully accused, just shows everyone why you were fooled to begin with.

Someone would have to be extremely naive to believe that LE/Crown would not add charges to bolster another. This does happen and not only that they do actually charge people to effect leverage on another. So yes you could be way off redheart. IMO.

I find it extremely distasteful for some to keep playing the 'defense team are foolish and liars by claiming that they are only interested in championing the wrongfully accused, when really they must be vulnerable idiots, card. I am no idiot I can assure you... and I understand the way things work very well. MOO
 
  • #425
Seriously, I doubt that DM had another side to the story aside for "it wasn't me". But that's just MHO. IMO, IF DP became aware that DM knew who was responsible for the murder of TB and wasn't saying anything that he could be guilty of obstructing justice. Remember, DP said they were simply going to wait and see what evidence LE had? Can't help but think that this may have been a well orchestrated plot by DM and LE's interpretation isn't in line with the way DM saw it unfolding, so now DM is saying..."hey, this is the way it's suppose to look!"
I'm willing to presume him innocent until a jury finds him guilty. Heck, I'll even be the first in line at his "wrongful prosecution" lawsuit, if that time ever came.
IMHO, I'll put my faith in DNA and digital forensics. Funny how everyone in his life is "staying alive" these days. MOO



I hadn't noticed that everyone he knew had died prior to his incarceration !!
 
  • #426
"I am heaven sent .. and don't you forget it"

DM must be humbly blind to his superior intelligence ... intelligence so great that he doesn't know he is the only one who can see the obvious that is right in front of us all. So obvious to him yet even those who shout his innocence can't seem to zero in on what the heck that obvious is and explain it to the hell sent among us.
 
  • #427
"I am heaven sent .. and don't you forget it"

DM must be humbly blind to his superior intelligence ... intelligence so great that he doesn't know he is the only one who can see the obvious that is right in front of us all. So obvious to him yet even those who shout his innocence can't seem to zero in on what the heck that obvious is and explain it to the hell sent among us.

Nothing personal, but you probably shouldn't put something in quotation marks if you're going to misquote it. That can be misleading. Kind of like quoting letters and pretending that three dots (...) will make it clear to the readers that one is quoting completely different letters, thereby nudging the readers to the same opinion as the author's.

JMO
 
  • #428
If it's so obvious and in front of everyone's eyes, why doesn't he just tell the recipient of the letter what it so "obviously" is? He is bluffing. JMO
 
  • #429
Why is he relying on investigative reporters to help with his case anyway? That should be his lawyer's job and the POLICE. JMO
 
  • #430
Why is he relying on investigative reporters to help with his case anyway? That should be his lawyer's job and the POLICE. JMO

He's not talking to the reporters directly. The excerpts published are personal letters written to DM's family and close friends that were somehow procured by an "anonymous source" and given or sold to the NP - it's unlikely that he thought that any investigative reporters would ever see his private correspondence in the first place. JMO.
 
  • #431
I know that cansleuther r.e. the letters to someone he knows personally. He is not saying what is "off" about the reports in MSM and can't say what the issues are according to him. Why not just say what is wrong with the articles without revealing the "truth."

It’s not the frequency of the articles. It’s the content … and I can’t even tell you, because it’s directly about the case… but what I will say, is that “the facts” they keep repeating, don’t match the disclosure I am given. I thought by now some, even one, of those so called ‘investigative’ journalists would have picked up on some of discrepancies in what police are telling them. I thought the public might have noticed some of the things that are out of place in the news articles.

http://news.nationalpost.com/2015/0...n-to-world-of-fast-cars-and-exotic-adventure/
 
  • #432
Also, Millard should be aware that there is a publication ban involved and the media can't just print all the "facts." The disclosure will be much more than what the press even knows about or can even be allowed to report on. JMO
 
  • #433
There was much disclosure likely given to Michael Rafferty when he sat in jail awaiting his trial too and may not have matched "facts" allowed to be printed. In fact there was much not made public until after the trial was over i.e. his computer searches and cell phone info.
 
  • #434
"For heaven's sake....." LOL. What twenty-something writes that? Eddie Haskell? LOL
 
  • #435
"For heaven's sake....." LOL. What twenty-something writes that? Eddie Haskell? LOL

I'm puzzled by such a fuss over DM's writing style - or the style of writing and choice of words in documents that have been attributed to him.

What young people have difficulty expressing themselves with written words?

Most of them, I'm sad to say, especially if (1) they were subjected to the Ontario education system IMO and (2) they've primarily communicated via texting for the past decade or more. In other words, not everyone is privileged to share a talent for exquisitely vivid prose or possesses your outstanding skills with literary critique. Or, to summarize in contemporary vernacular. Kids today? ROFL.

Is there some research to confirm that poor spelling or deficient grammar or questionable word choices in written text is a tag for serial murderers? If not, then what do these failings have to do with this case? Alternatively, if so, what do they have to do with this case? The cause of death for any of these alleged murders has not yet been revealed, but I'm willing to wager that none of the alleged victims succumbed to the effect of a vicious and premeditated bludgeoning with compound split infinitives. IMO. MOO.

IMHO. etc.
 
  • #436
You're suggesting that DM was charged with two other murders so LE could seal their case against DM for murdering TB? Okaaaaay then. Here I was guessing he was charged with two other murders because they have some evidence that he committed two other murders. I must be way off. :facepalm:

General (not directed at a particular poster): Boy, the DM defense team has been particularly relentless lately. I know how hard it must be to admit, even to oneself, that someone you thought you knew isn't who you thought they were. But constantly arguing his innocence, under the guise of being champions of the wrongfully accused, just shows everyone why you were fooled to begin with.

IMO Reductio ad absurdum is such a facile stance (my previous post notwithstanding.) Why is it necessary to discredit anybody's efforts to champion the cause of the wrongfully accused? Are you saying that some posters here are favour of people being wrongfully accused of crimes? That seems bizarre, IMO, but I do understand that is acceptable procedure in many countries. Is that where we're heading? Is that what we want? By the way, do you have information that anyone here personally knows any of the accused in these cases?
 
  • #437
There was much disclosure likely given to Michael Rafferty when he sat in jail awaiting his trial too and may not have matched "facts" allowed to be printed. In fact there was much not made public until after the trial was over i.e. his computer searches and cell phone info.

Who is Michael Rafferty and what does he have to do with this case? Are there connections with respect to computer searches or something?
 
  • #438
Seriously, I doubt that DM had another side to the story aside for "it wasn't me". But that's just MHO. IMO, IF DP became aware that DM knew who was responsible for the murder of TB and wasn't saying anything that he could be guilty of obstructing justice. Remember, DP said they were simply going to wait and see what evidence LE had? Can't help but think that this may have been a well orchestrated plot by DM and LE's interpretation isn't in line with the way DM saw it unfolding, so now DM is saying..."hey, this is the way it's suppose to look!"
I'm willing to presume him innocent until a jury finds him guilty. Heck, I'll even be the first in line at his "wrongful prosecution" lawsuit, if that time ever came.
IMHO, I'll put my faith in DNA and digital forensics. Funny how everyone in his life is "staying alive" these days. MOO

Everyone charged with a crime is entitled to defend himself or herself. A defense lawyer is not concerned with your guilt or innocence, but with successfully sowing seeds of doubt in the minds of the accused's peers, the jury, by successfully disputing the Crown's evidence. Defense lawyers are not obstructing justice by defending their clients. However, an ethical issue is presented for many lawyers in the situation where they have become aware of evidence that absolutely confirms their client's guilt. We have an adversarial system so the most common and most obvious approach would be to defend the client much less vigourously.

There are several interesting discussions online about this subject, arising from the highly unfortunate public perception, particularly in the US, that any lawyer who defends someone accused of a particularly heinous crime is almost a partner in the act itself. This has led to increasing difficulties in obtaining skilled defense attorneys for serious crimes - many lawyers just don't want to run the risk of having their name tarnished by taking on such cases.

http://www.lsuc.on.ca/media/sith_colloquium_asimow_michael.pdf
 
  • #439
First of all, IMO, even though there have been journalists covering this story, there's not many "investigative journalists" writing on it. DM is indicating that there are blatant discrepancies that should be obvious to the trained crime reporters eye and he goes on further to say that John Q public should even notice there are things out of place in the news articles.

Considering that we've been sleuthing this for almost 2 years now, these statements perplex me since discrepancies in the news reports should have surfaced here a long time ago. Any idea what he's talking about? Once again, there are physical facts here. The type of truck, the time of day, the incinerator on the farm, the identity of the victim, the identity of the suspect, where the truck was found...etc. The only thing I can think of is the cause of death? Perhaps how contact was made? If they were really spotted in Brantford? Was there only 2? Does DM know that LE haven't said very much about the case from the time of MS's arrest and every article is more or less a repeat of the other? MOO


What possible other substantive question needs an answer?

MOO. IMHO.
 
  • #440
Thank you again ABro for this writing. :tyou: :takeabow: You have given us some more interesting insight about DM and I found this tidbit quite intriguing. IMO I find it telling how he resented his father from a fairly early age and also mentioned being angry with his father in his jail house interview. With the wee bit of information available to date, we already have two known issues of resentment/anger toward WM. I've always assumed WM held the purse strings tightly when it came to DM and I believe DM very much resented that. That just may go to show why he would want to murder his father. When DM wrote his father's obituary and mentioned his father being frugal with himself but generous with others, and after reading your article, seems WM was generous with others...excluding DM and himself. Examples: DM dressing like a hillybilly in his younger years, eating pasta which is a cheap food staple and that's a possibly why WM bought it. Then looking at an adult DM who would be more in control of his life, we have DM who turned fashion conscientious, who went to chef school, works out trying to maintain an image. Resentment is a huge thing and especially toward a parent who is raising you. Did so many factors add up in the end causing DM to murder his father? Resentment, anger and maybe embarrassment? All MOO.

A chubby adolescent who resented his father for allowing him to eat pasta non-stop after his parents’ marriage ended, Millard is clearly image conscious, expressing embarrassment in a letter that newspapers frequently run a photograph of him from his pudgy days. He is working out to stay in shape and not gain weight, he writes.

http://news.nationalpost.com/2015/0...n-to-world-of-fast-cars-and-exotic-adventure/

Left to manage that legacy, Millard says he turned his attention to the business — but not without resentment. “I took it all pretty hard. It was a responsibility I didn’t want at that time. I was angry at (Wayne) for the things I had to do because he wasn’t there to do them.”

“He was frugal with himself and generous to others. The only people he feared were racists … He was patient and stubborn. He admired Christ, Gandhi and Lindbergh. He believed animal welfare was a humanitarian effort. He was a good man in a careless world. He was my father.”

http://www.thestar.com/news/gta/201...didnt_kill_tim_bosma_exclusive_interview.html

LOL we were both drawn to that same quote. Can I riff on resentment?

A chubby adolescent who resented his father for allowing him to eat pasta non-stop after his parents’ marriage ended, Millard is clearly image conscious, expressing embarrassment in a letter that newspapers frequently run a photograph of him from his pudgy days.
…wearing a down-market Champion tee shirt, as carried by retailers such as Zellers, a pair of equally low-end track pants, and incongruously, instead of a pair of sneakers, a pair of well worn, unpolished black boots that might meet the dress code at school if only they were better taken care of. Oh well, maybe they are his only shoes?

Imagine while CM was (by reports on the aviation forums) a hard driving and dominant man, WM was quite passive, and unable to make a judgment and assert himself (e.g., the pasta, the drinking). The only things WM fought for (long hair) were IMO meaningless and inconsequential. (There is no trace of his environmental protection activities, no films, no one lauding him for his effort, nothing. Was he ever able to create some finished output, or was it all on hold while his lifestyle played out? DM suggested as much in WM’s obituary. “He was a man of vision. Yet To Be Realized... His last, still unlaunched, animal welfare mission is accepting donations”. Did MB leave because of this stagnation? She was in it to begin it, what happened?) Likewise, IMO the only thing DM seems to have inherited from WM is the ability to make a hobby into a full time money pit.

It’s all beginning to remind me of the Bathtub Murderers, who were local (Brampton? Mississauga?) girls who killed their alcoholic mother because they felt her drinking was keeping them away from the finer things in life. They got out after three years each. Perhaps that story helped DM feel justified in murdering WM. No more discount retailers and Kraft Dinner and cheap $12k fiberglass kit cars and being jerked around into managing some moneypit MRO project.

So look what the guy turned into:

The letters obtained by the National Post reveal a man with a flair for purple prose and expensive taste in clothes — should he wear an Armani or McQueen suit at trial
It’s quite apparent that he wasn’t interested in WM’s “values”. It’s interesting, though, that he intended to “buy his mother a luxury Tesla car”. Perhaps in MB, DM saw a kindred spirit who loved the good life. Did you know MB was there the night WM died? She’s an Interior Designer – she’s made a career out of shopping for pretty things with other people’s money. How amazingly different these parents were in their lifestyle.

Throughout his letters, Millard makes multiple references to how he has convinced many of the guards and prisoners that he did not kill Bosma, the young Hamilton father who put his Dodge Ram truck up for sale online, went for a test drive with two strangers, and never returned.
He’s unable to distinguish between “convinced” and “been put on ignore by”. Yep. Sure. Whatever. Don’t you know everyone here is innocent? How is he able to convince these people without getting into the facts of the case? He just feels that he has been successful in cultivating the image he wants to have, I guess. He’s playing DM. Oh sorry, Big D, in his mind he’s trained them all to call him Big D.

I am glad that LE have been “relentless” in their “persecution” of DM, anyway.
 
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