Tim Bosma: Dellen Millard & Mark Smich chgd w/Murder; Christina Noudga, Accessory #3

[matou]

Four days after Mr. Bosma’s disappearance, police tailed Mr. Millard for at least four hours before arresting him and later charging him with forcible confinement, theft over $5,000 and, eventually, first-degree murder.

http://www.theglobeandmail.com/news...arged-with-killing-tim-bosma/article12009016/

 

[SnooperDuper]

Four days after Mr. Bosma’s disappearance, police tailed Mr. Millard for at least four hours before arresting him and later charging him with forcible confinement, theft over $5,000 and, eventually, first-degree murder.

http://www.theglobeandmail.com/news...arged-with-killing-tim-bosma/article12009016/

Ultimately LE got their man. The only question now is how many years until parole? Since there will be three separate trials, there is plenty of opportunity for a 75 years before parole life sentence.

 

[SnooperDuper]

Very interesting profile for ABro on Twitter:

Reporter with PI license. Writer and investigator for hire. Thinks Adnan is guilty and that maybe Mark Smich shouldn't be charged with Babcock murder.

https://twitter.com/AnnB03

Oh bother, that leaves DM holding the bag.

 

[matou]

Very interesting profile for ABro on Twitter:

Reporter with PI license. Writer and investigator for hire. Thinks Adnan is guilty and that maybe Mark Smich shouldn't be charged with Babcock murder.

https://twitter.com/AnnB03

Oh bother, that leaves DM holding the bag.

Yep, I guess Smich isn't as rapscallion as Millard. JMO

 

[Tamarind]

Very interesting profile for ABro on Twitter:

Reporter with PI license. Writer and investigator for hire. Thinks Adnan is guilty and that maybe Mark Smich shouldn't be charged with Babcock murder.

https://twitter.com/AnnB03

Oh bother, that leaves DM holding the bag.

In her dreams :moo:

 

[Tamarind]

Ultimately LE got their man. The only question now is how many years until parole? Since there will be three separate trials, there is plenty of opportunity for a 75 years before parole life sentence.

There will be a whole lot more questions before that is even a card on the table SnoopDuper. It's called a trial and as you know life has a funny way of throwing curve balls when you least expect them, get ready to duck. JMO

 

[SnooperDuper]

Yep, I guess Smich isn't as rapscallion as Millard. JMO

I always thought of MS as the sidekick. DM had personal issues with LB - it makes sense to me that what went down was between DM and LB.

 

[Juballee]

Personally, I form all my opinions and shape my view of the world from things I have read on twitter.

 

[SnooperDuper]

If MS maybe shouldn't be charged with LB's murder, isn't involved in WM's murder, and literally was not the driver behind TB's murder, he should just spill? Maybe that is part of what the closed door meetings are about.

Because CN was closest to DM and knew what he was up to no doubt her testimony will implicate DM but not MS (whom she was not in a relationship with, who had his own circle)

I wonder what ABro learned in her interview with MS that gave her the impression that MS perhaps should not be facing charges.

I wonder if ABro asked MS why he would not just tell what he knows, implicate DM, and get out of his predicament - upsetting MS.

These thugs seem to think there is some kind of honour in not being a rat, but MS could pay for his loyalty with 50 years of his life.

 

[Alethea Dice]

I'm also curious about this police "carding" business. What is it? What's a "208"? I understand these were intrinsic to identifying DM because of some "physical feature." Anybody know what any of this is about?

Carding is when they stop someone for no reason and record notes about the person on a contact card - basically a street check.

Carding — the practice of documenting non criminal interactions with the public — has been a lightning rod that has frayed relations between police and some visible minorities, who see it as a means to racial profiling.

http://news.nationalpost.com/2015/01/06/toronto-police-chief-orders-officers-to-stop-controversial-carding-until-further-notice/

A 208 is simply the number of the form that they complete when they card someone.

The Law Union of Ontario continues to maintain that both Form 208 and the manner in which it is filled out ie, street checks are used, are violations of the Canadian Charter of Rights and Freedoms, the Ontario Human Rights Code, and municipal and provincial privacy legislation.

http://www.lawunion.ca/2013/carding/

 

[Carli]

Carding is when they stop someone for no reason and record notes about the person on a contact card - basically a street check.



http://news.nationalpost.com/2015/0...p-controversial-carding-until-further-notice/

A 208 is simply the number of the form that they complete when they card someone.



http://www.lawunion.ca/2013/carding/

Gosh, sounds like a "Citizen, your papers please!!!" scenario. Is it unusual for people to be "carded"? Are many people carded? When was DM "carded"? Do we know what the noted "physical feature" was that led to his being identified in the TB case?

 

[Carli]

Four days after Mr. Bosma’s disappearance, police tailed Mr. Millard for at least four hours before arresting him and later charging him with forcible confinement, theft over $5,000 and, eventually, first-degree murder.

http://www.theglobeandmail.com/news...arged-with-killing-tim-bosma/article12009016/

Any thought about why didn't just arrest him during the earlier reported interview at the hangar, rather than wasting several hours and then causing a minor accident in order to cause him to stop his car?

http://www.thestar.com/news/gta/201...didnt_kill_tim_bosma_exclusive_interview.html

Millard was fetching financial records for the company when two Hamilton police investigators arrived and started asking questions: His name. His acquaintances. Whether he knew about Bosma’s disappearance. And about the tattoo on his left wrist that reads “ambition.”

It was almost friendly, he recalls. A short while later, they thanked him and left.

Two hours later, while he was driving home, Millard says he was rear-ended as he idled at a red light.

When he got out of the car, he saw more than a dozen people — plain-clothed officers with protective vests — pointing guns at him.

 

[SnooperDuper]

Any thought about why didn't just arrest him during the earlier reported interview at the hangar, rather than wasting several hours and then causing a minor accident in order to cause him to stop his car?

http://www.thestar.com/news/gta/201...didnt_kill_tim_bosma_exclusive_interview.html

Millard was fetching financial records for the company when two Hamilton police investigators arrived and started asking questions: His name. His acquaintances. Whether he knew about Bosma’s disappearance. And about the tattoo on his left wrist that reads “ambition.”

It was almost friendly, he recalls. A short while later, they thanked him and left.

Two hours later, while he was driving home, Millard says he was rear-ended as he idled at a red light.

When he got out of the car, he saw more than a dozen people — plain-clothed officers with protective vests — pointing guns at him.

Because they needed time to set up the press conference after confirming they had found the man they were looking for earlier that day.

 

[matou]

Probably wanted to follow him around to see who he was visiting since LE was looking for another person too. JMO

 

[Alethea Dice]

Very interesting profile for ABro on Twitter:

Reporter with PI license. Writer and investigator for hire. Thinks Adnan is guilty and that maybe Mark Smich shouldn't be charged with Babcock murder.

https://twitter.com/AnnB03

Oh bother, that leaves DM holding the bag.

Don't count your chickens before they're hatched. She was wrong about the university student rape trial.

 

[SnooperDuper]

Don't count your chickens before they're hatched. She was wrong about the university student rape trial.

It doesn't really matter whether they put DM and MS in jail, or just DM. Just as long as there is justice.

 

[Carli]

Yep, I guess Smich isn't as rapscallion as Millard. JMO

But how could this be possible? Haven't we been informed numerous times by several folks that LE never ever lays a charge without ample inculpatory evidence. And let's not forget that the AG herself publically expressed confidence in the probability of conviction. Also, isn't Smich the chap with that criminal rapsheet for spraying grafitti and other outrages against society?

He certainly enjoys role playing dark and violent scenes.

Do we know if one or other of his parents were alcoholics? That could explain everything, couldn't it? MOO. IMHO. etc.

 

[Carli]

It doesn't really matter whether they put DM and MS in jail, or just DM. Just as long as there is justice.

Wow!

:jawdrop:

 

[Tamarind]

If MS maybe shouldn't be charged with LB's murder, isn't involved in WM's murder, and literally was not the driver behind TB's murder, he should just spill? Maybe that is part of what the closed door meetings are about.

Because CN was closest to DM and knew what he was up to no doubt her testimony will implicate DM but not MS (whom she was not in a relationship with, who had his own circle)

I wonder what ABro learned in her interview with MS that gave her the impression that MS perhaps should not be facing charges.

I wonder if ABro asked MS why he would not just tell what he knows, implicate DM, and get out of his predicament - upsetting MS.

These thugs seem to think there is some kind of honour in not being a rat, but MS could pay for his loyalty with 50 years of his life.

More of the proverbial spin in my opinion.
How do you know they are thugs? How do you know it is a case of not being a rat? How do you know his silence is anything to do with loyalty?

He could be staying silent for many reasons, not least the advice of a lawyer who knows how the system works. I don't think its about loyalty, ratting or not ratting. DM has already given a clue by saying that the disclosure is different from the media spin. That means that at trial quite a few people will be surprised by the questioning IMO. If the questions don't reflect anything in the press, what will they reflect and what will DM and MS testify about if they do? Maybe there are sufficient holes in the disclosure to give the defense a clear shot at the net. JMO

 

[swedie]

Maybe this is just a tip of the iceberg. MS was obviously stupid enough to get caught for breaking laws. DM, wonder how he managed to steer clear of charges. Guess you have to be caught with your hand in the cookie jar. MOO.

In 2009, a former tenant at Dellen’s west-end Toronto rental property —who was engaged in a dispute with him before the Landlord Tenant Board at the time—reported to police that she had found Millard and his friends tampering with the engine of her car the night before her hearing. A few years back, a neighbour of the Millards (who asked not to be identified) complained to police that Dellen and his buddies sped dangerously down the child-filled street. (Nothing came of these complaints.)

http://www.thegridto.com/index.html?p=158713.html