Tim Bosma: Dellen Millard & Mark Smich chgd w/Murder; Christina Noudga, Accessory #3

[Tamarind]

It doesn't really matter whether they put DM and MS in jail, or just DM. Just as long as there is justice.

Really? What kind of justice would that be then, when anyone sitting in a hole will do so long as somebody does?

First of all we need a FAIR trial and the right to face the accuser. I don't want just anyone in the hole, only someone who deserves to be there. I really wonder at the mindset of some people in the world these days, it's like a robotic mindset that is programmed on one channel only. JMO

 

[swedie]

More of the proverbial spin in my opinion.
How do you know they are thugs? How do you know it is a case of not being a rat? How do you know his silence is anything to do with loyalty?

He could be staying silent for many reasons, not least the advice of a lawyer who knows how the system works. I don't think its about loyalty, ratting or not ratting. DM has already given a clue by saying that the disclosure is different from the media spin. That means that at trial quite a few people will be surprised by the questioning IMO. If the questions don't reflect anything in the press, what will they reflect and what will DM and MS testify about if they do? Maybe there are sufficient holes in the disclosure to give the defense a clear shot at the net. JMO

You are taking DM's word on this. Are we supposed to believe an alleged serial killer? Sorry I don't. MOO.

 

[Tamarind]

Maybe this is just a tip of the iceberg. MS was obviously stupid enough to get caught for breaking laws. DM, wonder how he managed to steer clear of charges. Guess you have to be caught with your hand in the cookie jar. MOO.

In 2009, a former tenant at Dellen’s west-end Toronto rental property —who was engaged in a dispute with him before the Landlord Tenant Board at the time—reported to police that she had found Millard and his friends tampering with the engine of her car the night before her hearing. A few years back, a neighbour of the Millards (who asked not to be identified) complained to police that Dellen and his buddies sped dangerously down the child-filled street. (Nothing came of these complaints.)

http://www.thegridto.com/index.html?p=158713.html

A former tenant hmm. Tampering with her engine ? What did she do leave her car unlocked to give them easy access to the hood latch? How can you tamper with a car at night in the dark without having access to the vehicle? Now if she had said they let hers tires down, I may have been interested, but tampering with engine? No name given, just former tenant who has come out of hiding to tell this questionable snippet of non-information IMO

 

[swedie]

Really? What kind of justice would that be then, when anyone sitting in a hole will do so long as somebody does?

First of all we need a FAIR trial and the right to face the accuser. I don't want just anyone in the hole, only someone who deserves to be there. I really wonder at the mindset of some people in the world these days, it's like a robotic mindset that is programmed on one channel only. JMO

I guess it's fair to ask, do you know what information or facts other people know to base this opinion on? MOO.

 

[Tamarind]

I guess it's fair to ask, do you know what information or facts other people know to base this opinion on? MOO.

I am referring to mindsets not facts in a criminal case.

 

[Tamarind]

Probably wanted to follow him around to see who he was visiting since LE was looking for another person too. JMO

Was it after regular duty? Maybe they were on overtime! :thinking:

 

[swedie]

So yet again, everyone is against DM and everyone who does not want to be identified is a liar. Even those who do reveal their identity gets accused of lying and are raked over the coal. Is there anything in the MSM we can believe about DM?

BUT we are suppose to believe someone charged with murdering his own father, his lover and TB? :thinking: Sorry I cannot get into that sort of mind frame as it's against my better judgement and moral standards. MOO.

I guess we will just have to wait until the trial to find out who the real DM is. I'm sure one day there will be a book published to shed an abundant wealth of information on the whole history of the Millards/Burns. If we are lucky enough, maybe it will go back as far as Chief Joseph Brant. Again MOO.

 

[Alethea Dice]

It doesn't really matter whether they put DM and MS in jail, or just DM. Just as long as there is justice.

There is no justice unless they put everyone involved in jail and they're all the right ones. So I guess you don't care who did it, as long as the rich dude with the alcoholic father goes to jail?

 

[swedie]

I am referring to mindsets not facts in a criminal case.

It has been suggested over and over again that there aren't many facts to the case and even DM disputes the facts don't line up with the disclosure he's been given...if you chose to believe him.

Respectfully, I don't believe it has anything to do with mindsets, just facts. HTH.

 

[hopingforjustice]

A former tenant hmm. Tampering with her engine ? What did she do leave her car unlocked to give them easy access to the hood latch? How can you tamper with a car at night in the dark without having access to the vehicle? Now if she had said they let hers tires down, I may have been interested, but tampering with engine? No name given, just former tenant who has come out of hiding to tell this questionable snippet of non-information IMO

Perhaps the same way that me and all my neighbours got our locked vehicles robbed of all gps, coins, etc last summer. These days it is not rocket science to get into a locked car.

 

[Tamarind]

It has been suggested over and over again that there aren't many facts to the case and even DM disputes the facts don't line up with the disclosure he's been given...if you chose to believe him.

Respectfully, I don't believe it has anything to do with mindsets, just facts. HTH.

huh? I was talking about an opinion of mine thats all. Maybe we are not talking on the same frequency, it happens. :facepalm:

 

[Alethea Dice]

A former tenant hmm. Tampering with her engine ? What did she do leave her car unlocked to give them easy access to the hood latch? How can you tamper with a car at night in the dark without having access to the vehicle? Now if she had said they let hers tires down, I may have been interested, but tampering with engine? No name given, just former tenant who has come out of hiding to tell this questionable snippet of non-information IMO

Maybe that's why he apparently wasn't charged.

 

[Tamarind]

Perhaps the same way that me and all my neighbours got our locked vehicles robbed of all gps, coins, etc last summer. These days it is not rocket science to get into a locked car.

If that were the case wouldn't she have reported them for damage? or breaking into her car? No charges were laid so there is a clue !

 

[SnooperDuper]

There is no justice unless they put everyone involved in jail and they're all the right ones. So I guess you don't care who did it, as long as the rich dude with the alcoholic father goes to jail?

Strange that, imo. It seems to me that to want DM in jail no matter what alludes to a motive for something, just can't figure out exactly what

All the evidence points to one guy. Yeah, that!

 

[Alethea Dice]

Gosh, sounds like a "Citizen, your papers please!!!" scenario. Is it unusual for people to be "carded"? Are many people carded? When was DM "carded"? Do we know what the noted "physical feature" was that led to his being identified in the TB case?

That's a pretty close description. It has been pretty popular in Toronto, especially in the Jane and Finch area. Lots and lots of people are carded.

Toronto police stop hundreds of thousands of people each year, recording on contact cards details such as an individual’s name, address, description, and the personal information of the people they’re with. The information is then entered into a police database that by now contains millions of names.
The vast majority of cards are filled out during non-criminal encounters. Between 2008 and 2012, one in 10 people carded was arrested and charged by Toronto police during that same time period.

http://www.thestar.com/news/gta/2013/11/18/carding_by_toronto_police_drops_sharply.html

I don't know when DM was carded and the MSM reports all seem to just say a "physical feature", but AB claims it was his tattoo.

http://www.annrbrocklehurst.com/2013/11/dear-readers.html

 

[hopingforjustice]

If that were the case wouldn't she have reported them for damage? or breaking into her car? No charges were laid so there is a clue !

Can't answer as to what she did or didn't do.I wasn't there. Merely stating that from my own experience...it is possible to get into a car without keys.

 

[Alethea Dice]

All the evidence points to one guy. Yeah, that!

I haven't seen any evidence at all yet in the LB case. So how did you come to the conclusion that all the evidence only points to that one guy? I guess LE thought some of the evidence pointed to another guy as well, since they charged two of them.

 

[Tamarind]

All the evidence points to one guy. Yeah, that!

Which evidence, the evidence in the media or the evidence in the disclosure?

 

[Tamarind]

That's a pretty close description. It has been pretty popular in Toronto, especially in the Jane and Finch area. Lots and lost of people are carded.



http://www.thestar.com/news/gta/2013/11/18/carding_by_toronto_police_drops_sharply.html

I don't know when DM was carded and the MSM reports all seem to just say a "physical feature", but AB claims it was his tattoo.

http://www.annrbrocklehurst.com/2013/11/dear-readers.html

Maybe its best to drive with all identifying marks covered up and remain silent. We never know what may be used against us in the future. :eye:

 

[Arnie M]

Four days after Mr. Bosma’s disappearance, police tailed Mr. Millard for at least four hours before arresting him and later charging him with forcible confinement, theft over $5,000 and, eventually, first-degree murder.

http://www.theglobeandmail.com/news...arged-with-killing-tim-bosma/article12009016/

YES , and I wouldn't be surprised if they watched his every move , and monitored every communication in those 4 hours in case DM contacted any of his cohorts or whatever.

And I bet police had those preparations in place BEFORE they even got to the hangar , and maybe even monitored him a day or two BEFORE they came to the hangar

Police do not fly in the dark , they may already have spotted enough tentacles to DM to make him a likely suspect .... the interview at the hangar was likely part of the staging , during the interview they would realize DM was being deceptive which would help to confirm his involvement .

Within those following 4 hours they put together a slam-dunk warrant and got the SWAT team to arrest him , and he has not been been released since.

It also wouldn't surprise me , after police left the hangar , if DM maybe called MS and said .... "hey , the cops were just here asking about the truck , but I told them I knew nothing and they went away".

That alone may not be enough to arrest MS right away so police were likely monitoring him to see what he did and where he went (they were still looking for the truck) ... I am sure MS's actions during those days would provide lots of "tells" .... his partner DM had been arrested and he would be spooked knowing they were looking for the other kidnapper - truck thief.

I enjoy all your posts and your logic matou , thanks