Tim Bosma: Dellen Millard & Mark Smich chgd w/Murder; Christina Noudga, Accessory #3

[Tamarind]

Maybe DM didn't show and she dropped the case. He was known for being late for things. MOO.

If you don't show to criminal trials a warrant is issued for your arrest. If you don't show to a civil trial it is ruled in favour of the plaintiff unless judge grants another date (unusual)

 

[Tamarind]

Well let's just say either arrest wasn't too pretty. :notgood:

Oh and BTW some of the information you stated was given to RC via DM. Are we suppose to take DM's word on this also? He claims he saw more than a dozen officers. That could mean IMO there could have been 20 or 30, maybe even 50 officers. Could it be DM failed to mention a SWAT team was also present during his arrest? Or maybe he just didn't see them? These couple articles are pretty much all that was stated in the MSM regarding his arrest. Sheesh for the media who seems to want to blow stories out of proportion/exaggerate or give the most riveting information available, they sure failed providing the details on this instance.

Are there any pretty arrests?
Maybe DM just imagined it all, being the liar he is made out to be. Maybe it didnt happen. Maybe he turned himself in? :laughing:

Because it states "without incident", that means DM didn't draw a gun, try to flee, or do anything which would cause LE to use force when arresting him. It's quite understandable as to why the two arrests played out differently. DM's arrest; he's driving along in his vehicle after leaving the hangar. LE gathered the necessary information from tailing him for four hours and from speaking to him at the hangar. They only had so much time to call for back up and arrest him once they knew they had their suspect. LE had a good visual of their suspect because he was in his Yukon.

Weren't they behind him? They rammed the rear end... unless thats a lie too. How much of a visual advantage would you have from the rear of a vehicle? :thinking:

MS's arrest; they likely had LE casing his home or following him for who knows how long. LE needed a search warrant before descending upon his mother's house and property. LE did not know who or what they would encounter upon entering MS's mother's house. Had a dozen guys come running out with guns, they needed to be prepared.

If they were casing MS home, they would have known when he was home and who had entered or left. Why not enter the home when he was there, they entered anyway at another time, regardless of who may have been there?

Did LE check out DM's vehicle at the hangar while they were speaking to him? Maybe they were checking to see if he had guns or weapons in his vehicle before they pulled him over. Maybe they saw blood or evidence; something telling in his Yukon...We will hear how it all played out during the trial. ALL MOO.

So now a murder occurred in the Yukon?

 

[matou]

Did Millard have a case of cash with him the night of Tim's murder? If not, why not? No intention of buying the truck. I don't believe for a second that Millard had any money with him or else he would have been carrying a bag with him to the house like a granny carries her purse around to bed! What about the other guy who went on a test drive with him. Did he report seeing him carry a bag with him? He paid for the farm in CASH in May 2011. WHY pay in cash? Why avoid a mortgage? Why sink over $800,000 for a property when the relationship was over with his then fiancee?

 

[Tamarind]

Did Millard have a case of cash with him the night of Tim's murder? If not, why not? No intention of buying the truck. I don't believe for a second that Millard had any money with him or else he would have been carrying a bag with him to the house like a granny carries her purse around to bed! What about the other guy who went on a test drive with him. Did he report seeing him carry a bag with him? He paid for the farm in CASH in May 2011. WHY pay in cash? Why avoid a mortgage? Why sink over $800,000 for a property when the relationship was over with his then fiancee?

How would we know what he had on him if he was there? Maybe the money was the reason for the murder, if he had cash. Maybe the cash had been given to TB and TB was robbed by another of the cash? We don't know at this point, so how can we rule anything in or out?

When you pay cash for a home it can be a CHEQUE ! Why pay a mortgage if you dont need to, mortgages carry interest! Maybe he liked the property, thats why people buy things like property usually, because they like it. MOO

 

[matou]

I haven't read anything about any cheques.

 

[matou]

Sharlene would have seen a bag. The other truck seller would have seen a bag. Write a cheque? Really?

 

[Alethea Dice]

Oh and BTW some of the information you stated was given to RC via DM. Are we suppose to take DM's word on this also? He claims he saw more than a dozen officers. That could mean IMO there could have been 20 or 30, maybe even 50 officers. Could it be DM failed to mention a SWAT team was also present during his arrest? Or maybe he just didn't see them? These couple articles are pretty much all that was stated in the MSM regarding his arrest. Sheesh for the media who seems to want to blow stories out of proportion/exaggerate or give the most riveting information available, they sure failed providing the details on this instance.

That's what I said - that was all we had heard about his arrest. A person would need to be pretty blind not to see a SWAT team bearing down on them. I don't believe I've ever seen them hiding in cars before.

Because it states "without incident", that means DM didn't draw a gun, try to flee, or do anything which would cause LE to use force when arresting him. It's quite understandable as to why the two arrests played out differently. DM's arrest; he's driving along in his vehicle after leaving the hangar. LE gathered the necessary information from tailing him for four hours and from speaking to him at the hangar. They only had so much time to call for back up and arrest him once they knew they had their suspect. LE had a good visual of their suspect because he was in his Yukon.

No one said it meant anything different. Are you suggesting that if they had had more than 4 hours to gather their information and call for back up, they would have called in even more troops? I don't think it takes LE too long to get back up JMO.

MS's arrest; they likely had LE casing his home or following him for who knows how long. LE needed a search warrant before descending upon his mother's house and property. LE did not know who or what they would encounter upon entering MS's mother's house. Had a dozen guys come running out with guns, they needed to be prepared.

As someone else mentioned, if they were casing his house, you would think they would have known who was there and if he was in fact in the house when they arrived. The tactical unit "barged through the front door". They didn't take any chances on anyone running out with guns shooting.

Did LE check out DM's vehicle at the hangar while they were speaking to him? Maybe they were checking to see if he had guns or weapons in his vehicle before they pulled him over. Maybe they saw blood or evidence; something telling in his Yukon...We will hear how it all played out during the trial. ALL MOO.

If they did, I'm surprised they still had to follow him around for four hours before deciding to rear-end him.

JMO

According to your links, DM was arrested Saturday morning. Since they apparently followed him around for four hours first, I guess he managed to get out of bed pretty early that day. I thought it was mentioned by someone here, based on AS's comments, that he never faced daylight until noon. JMO

 

[redheart]

Maybe he was up way earlier than usual because he was busy disposing of evidence that he had committed murder. For the third time. IMO

 

[Sillybilly]

That's not the way court works. If all you had to do to have charges dropped when you are accused of something was fail to appear at court, no respondent would ever show up voluntarily. Hope that helps.

The discussion was wrt the landlord and tenant hearing ... not a court appearance.

hth

 

[Alethea Dice]

Isn't speeding against the law? Isn't taking shopping carts off the business's property theft? Unless of course you're a decent person and return them, then I guess there isn't an issue. Something tells me DM likely didn't return his. Something tells me DM thought he was above the law no matter how trivial or serious the law was. What was the purpose of taking a shopping cart when he had his vehicle to transport his groceries in? Any idea? Needed it or a few for around the hangar possibly? Something to store car parts in? Maybe a picture of one or two will show up in evidence photos during trial. TWT.

Respectfully, I see nothing wrong with children playing on the road as long as they do it in a safe manner and drivers are aware and courteous when approaching them. Heaven forbid, all those children who have nowhere else to play road hockey, basketball, skip rope, skateboard and/or cycle. For years my children played road hockey on the road with their father and other neighbourhood families. It's sad times or attitudes have changed and children are now being told they shouldn't play on the road in their own neighbourhood. No wonder children are cooped up inside with their faces planted into computers and televisions. ALL MOO.

Regardless of how you feel about children playing on the road, or how much or little it is enforced, it is still illegal to play on the street. It would also be safer for children to play in a playground or schoolyard, rather than on the street. Roads were made for moving vehicles, not balls, hockey sticks and skipping ropes.

The bylaw, they note, technically bans not just ball hockey but all sports from being played in the roadway. One intent is to protect the city from being sued if someone gets hurt.

In the Toronto area alone, Oakville, Pickering, Mississauga, Milton and Burlington all have similar rules. Only Kingston has excepted ball hockey from its ban on playing sports in the street, says a Toronto staff report, and a similar exception might not protect Toronto from liability.

http://www.theglobeandmail.com/news/toronto/councillor-on-thin-ice-over-proposed-road-hockey-rules/article4204230/

It appears that DM isn't the only one who thinks he is above the law, depending on the issue at hand and whether or not one agrees with the particular law.

JMO

 

[Alethea Dice]

So I guess that must be the reason for taking such mundane photos of the shopping cart with the groceries in the back of the truck: he paid a deposit on the carts.

How do you know who took the pictures? They weren't on his FB page, they were on the friend's page from out of country, as were all the comments about it.

 

[SnooperDuper]

So I guess that must be the reason for taking such mundane photos of the shopping cart with the groceries in the back of the truck: he paid a deposit on the carts.

Well you know they have those little coin deposit holders, costs for $.25 to $1 to rent a cart worth $200-$500.

You pay the deposit to use the cart in the store and the parking lot - you are not to leave the property with the cart.

That's called THEFT. Interestingly enough, DM currently faces a theft charge.

Theft must be his natural habit - disrespecting others to get what he wants. He has a proven habit of stealing.

 

[Alethea Dice]

Did Millard have a case of cash with him the night of Tim's murder? If not, why not? No intention of buying the truck. I don't believe for a second that Millard had any money with him or else he would have been carrying a bag with him to the house like a granny carries her purse around to bed! What about the other guy who went on a test drive with him. Did he report seeing him carry a bag with him? He paid for the farm in CASH in May 2011. WHY pay in cash? Why avoid a mortgage? Why sink over $800,000 for a property when the relationship was over with his then fiancee?

The relationship wasn't over yet when he bought the farm. The engagement photo's were taken in May 2011. The deal for the farm closed in May 2011.

I had also commented earlier about the cash payment for the farm and the condo. Many here indicated to me that saying he paid cash doesn't necessarily mean he didn't have a mortgage on it. That's not how I would have read it, but hey... whatever works, I guess.

JMO

 

[Alethea Dice]

Maybe he was up way earlier than usual because he was busy disposing of evidence that he had committed murder. For the third time. IMO

You think TB was murdered at the hangar? Or just that the evidence was still at the hangar the morning he was arrested?

 

[Alethea Dice]

Well you know they have those little coin deposit holders, costs for $.25 to $1 to rent a cart worth $200-$500.

You pay the deposit to use the cart in the store and the parking lot - you are not to leave the property with the cart.

That's called THEFT. Interestingly enough, DM currently faces a theft charge.

Theft must be his natural habit - disrespecting others to get what he wants.

Yeah, too bad LE won't enforce it and charge people. All those needy people disrespecting others to get their groceries home should get jail time.

 

[SnooperDuper]

Did Millard have a case of cash with him the night of Tim's murder? If not, why not? No intention of buying the truck. I don't believe for a second that Millard had any money with him or else he would have been carrying a bag with him to the house like a granny carries her purse around to bed! What about the other guy who went on a test drive with him. Did he report seeing him carry a bag with him? He paid for the farm in CASH in May 2011. WHY pay in cash? Why avoid a mortgage? Why sink over $800,000 for a property when the relationship was over with his then fiancee?

Perhaps he had trouble loosening WM's purse strings because DM had a habit of not following through on things, not finishing things...alll of a sudden it looks to WM that DM's going to settle down and WM is willing to pass on some cash if DM settles down and behaves...but it is all a ruse because once DM gets cash in his name he ends the relationship/engagement (keeps the cash that's in his name)

 

[SnooperDuper]

Yeah, too bad LE won't enforce it and charge people. All those needy people disrespecting others to get their groceries home should get jail time.

DM is a needy person that despite a truck needs a cart to get his groceries home? All those millions, and he's needy?

No DM is a thief. He steals. Repeatedly.

Mississauga, which reportedly charges a $5,000 fine against anyone who takes a shopping cart from a store and abandons it elsewhere.

http://www.lfpress.com/2013/04/22/staff-asked-to-recommend-possible-solutions

http://www.mississauga.ca/portal/residents/shoppingcart

Wow, DM could be facing TWO theft over $5k charges?

Or maybe his is just channeling Bubbles from the Trailer Park Boys?

 

[swedie]

That's not the way court works. If all you had to do to have charges dropped when you are accused of something was fail to appear at court, no respondent would ever show up voluntarily. Hope that helps.

It wasn't court it was a hearing. HTH. Maybe she high tailed it out of his rental property and dropped the charges out of fear for her life. You know how some people get bad vibes about others. MOO.

 

[matou]

Those shopping carts sometimes have wheels that lock when reaching a point in a parking lot.

 

[SnooperDuper]

Those shopping carts sometimes have wheels that lock when reaching a point in a parking lot.

Oh that's nothing you can't fix with the tools in the garage in the hangar.

It sure stymies the poor people though.

But remember: DM is needy, so he NEEDS to steal a shopping cart after paying his $.25 or $1 deposit.

DM is needy, so he NEEDS to steal a Dodge RAM truck.

We are not talking economic need, just DM's needs.