Tim Bosma: Dellen Millard & Mark Smich chgd w/Murder; Christina Noudga, Accessory #3

[Tamarind]

I was interested to learn that serious charges against DA were dropped in Sept. What would cause LE to drop such charges? It seems they were not investigating them very seriously at least between July and September. Otherwise wouldn't you think they'd notice that their prime witness had been reported missing. IMO. MOO. Did a look at LB's internet sessions help them conclude her allegations were groundless? Puzzling. MOO. IMHO.

http://www.thestar.com/news/crime/2...ck_leaves_lingering_questions_for_police.html

"In March 2012, Austerweil was charged with assaulting her, theft under $5,000 (what he owed for the vet bill) and sexually assaulting her friend. Court records show all the charges were withdrawn that September — after Babcock disappeared."

Agreed, it would have made more sense for LE to be wondering where the woman who was the injured party was, rather than ignoring her absence and dropping all charges against her wrongdoer. JMO Poor policing in the LB case from the outset. IMO. With the short time lapse between the charges being laid and her disappearance ( 12 weeks) it should have obviously been a red flag to anyone seriously looking to find her.

 

[Sillybilly]

So.... Whatcha want. Da fence or da sink. One man's court case is another man's bathroom reno.

http://www.moneysense.ca/property/r...e-sink-for-your-bathroom-think-petrified-wood

Tell ya what. If DM is just an eensie bit cautious about signing on the dotted line, maybe it's not so difficult to understand.

Nice sinks, though. Well, if you're into petrified stuff. Kinda partial to old fashioned china myself.

Whatevah.

IMO. MOO.

Hmm .. lemme see ... distributor named Deepak, sink in petrified wood .. something a bit subliminal ? :floorlaugh: :thud:

 

[Carli]

Hmm .. lemme see ... distributor named Deepak, sink in petrified wood .. something a bit subliminal ? :floorlaugh: :thud:

I'll have another one of what he's drinking. LOL. :dance:

 

[swedie]

Hmm .. lemme see ... distributor named Deepak, sink in petrified wood .. something a bit subliminal ? :floorlaugh: :thud:

:silly: Love your sense of humour Sillybilly. Wonder if his lawyer ship is sinking?

 

[SnooperDuper]

Top secret? Defense team asking the court to keep the media out when the Spec goes to court over Glithero keeping the media out...

Hamiton Spectator will challenge defence request to keep press access challenge re Tim Bosma case secret too. This is beyond bizarre

https://twitter.com/AnnB03/status/583697525812658176

 

[SnooperDuper]

So.... Whatcha want. Da fence or da sink. One man's court case is another man's bathroom reno.

http://www.moneysense.ca/property/r...e-sink-for-your-bathroom-think-petrified-wood

Tell ya what. If DM is just an eensie bit cautious about signing on the dotted line, maybe it's not so difficult to understand.

Nice sinks, though. Well, if you're into petrified stuff. Kinda partial to old fashioned china myself.

Whatevah.

IMO. MOO.

Would be perfect for my grotto. I wonder if DP has a line on coordinating satin sheets & shag carpeting?

 

[cansleuther]

Top secret? DP & RP are asking the court to keep the media out when the Spec goes to court over Glithero keeping the media out...

Where do you see that it's only DP and RP making the request? What about TD?

 

[SnooperDuper]

Where do you see that it's only DP and RP making the request? What about TD?

Well I guess it only says "the defense" so ... ... ... whoever. Edited.

 

[Carli]

Kind of a cryptic tweet, though. I read it as meaning the defense (whoever 'he' or 'they may actually be at this point) are petitioning to keep secret the content of the Spec's challenge. I presume that also refers to written documents. Not to put too fine a point on it, but surely the court can't prevent petitioners from attending court to hear their own case. Maybe the defense is trying to end run the possibility that the Spec, in reporting on a hearing regarding its own petition, will probably include details of the original hearing. Oy. All this spinning in circles is making me dizzy.

Maybe, in the interests of clarity, Snoop will invite me over for a romp around his grotto. I'm in a shag carpet state of mind. ROFL.

 

[SnooperDuper]

Kind of a cryptic tweet, though. I read it as meaning the defense (whoever 'he' or 'they may actually be at this point) are petitioning to keep secret the content of the Spec's challenge. I presume that also refers to written documents. Not to put too fine a point on it, but surely the court can't prevent petitioners from attending court to hear their own case. Maybe the defense is trying to end run the possibility that the Spec, in reporting on a hearing regarding its own petition, will probably include details of the original hearing. Oy. All this spinning in circles is making me dizzy.

Maybe, in the interests of clarity, Snoop will invite me over for a romp around his grotto. I'm in a shag carpet state of mind. ROFL.

There were two tweets, maybe this helps clarify:

Court employee just told me defence team wants Spectator challenge to in camera pre trial sessions in Tim Bosma case to be in camera too

https://twitter.com/AnnB03/status/583696997913341952

 

[Carli]

There were two tweets, maybe this helps clarify:



https://twitter.com/AnnB03/status/583696997913341952

Thanks, Snoop. Does that mean I can't come over? LOL

Yes, that's clearer. As I said, I suppose from the defense point of view, it would seem probable that information about the first "secret" hearing would be revealed within the context of the Spec's challenge. Do we think that the prosecutors do not share that concern because otherwise they, too, would make the same request?

This is a very, very peculiar case. It increasingly seems as if lots of politics are in play. IMO. MOO. IMHO.

 

[Alethea Dice]

Kind of a cryptic tweet, though. I read it as meaning the defense (whoever 'he' or 'they may actually be at this point) are petitioning to keep secret the content of the Spec's challenge. I presume that also refers to written documents. Not to put too fine a point on it, but surely the court can't prevent petitioners from attending court to hear their own case. Maybe the defense is trying to end run the possibility that the Spec, in reporting on a hearing regarding its own petition, will probably include details of the original hearing. Oy. All this spinning in circles is making me dizzy.

Maybe, in the interests of clarity, Snoop will invite me over for a romp around his grotto. I'm in a shag carpet state of mind. ROFL.

Interesting. I wonder if that's possible. That only the Spec's lawyers would be able to attend on behalf of the paper, and not the reporters.

 

[Deleted member 102539]

http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/kitch...akes-over-former-millard-air-hangar-1.3019314

Chartright Air Group takes over former Millard Air hangar

Chartright plans to move its helicopter maintenance repair operations from Toronto into the facility, where the company has outgrown its hangar capacity.

The sale of the lease of the former Millard Air hangar to Chartright brings to an end a nearly two-year search for a new tenant for the building.

Wood said he doubts the potential stigma of a hangar being linked to an accused killer played any role in the length of time it took Millard Air to find a buyer.

"There are very few companies that can utilize the sheer size and height of that structure," Wood said. "I would think that would be what took the most time. There's a limited number of people who can use it."

 

[Deleted member 102539]

http://www.610cktb.com/news/2015/04/07/tims-tribute-officially-up-and-running

Tim's Tribute officially up and running

 

[Deleted member 102539]

http://kitchener.ctvnews.ca/bosma-m...trial-hearings-can-t-report-on-them-1.2317081

Bosma murder case: Media can attend pretrial hearings, can’t report on them

 

[matou]

Investigators say based on the evidence, they believe Bosma died the night he went missing, in his truck. They have not released the cause of death.

I believe TB was shot . This is based on the acquisition of a gun by DM and this would have been the quickest method to kill him if DM was alone with TB in his truck. I don't think TB was shot outside of his truck based on this info. Was a bullet still in his body and located by LE when they investigated the incinerator?

http://news.nationalpost.com/news/canada/unknown-remains-found-on-suspect-dellen-millards-farm-where-tim-bosmas-body-discovered-report

 

[Arnie M]

I believe TB was shot . This is based on the acquisition of a gun by DM and this would have been the quickest method to kill him if DM was alone with TB in his truck. I don't think TB was shot outside of his truck based on this info. Was a bullet still in his body and located by LE when they investigated the incinerator?

http://news.nationalpost.com/news/canada/unknown-remains-found-on-suspect-dellen-millards-farm-where-tim-bosmas-body-discovered-report

Shortly after the truck was found , a source said he was killed inside the vehicle
http://www.thespec.com/news-story/2878073-bosma-slain-inside-his-truck-source-says/
Must have been blood splatter or something similar because police said TB was likely dead (before they found his remains)

I agree if one person (alone) did it , a handgun would be required , but the logistics of that would not be easy either (risky for the thief-driver)

My gut wants to say both DM & MS were in the truck , and the backseat position would be best for doing it , either by choking or by gun or maybe stabbing .... but then we come back to how did the Yukon follow ???

If a bullet was found with the remains it could be matched (metallurgy) with a box of ammo (in a home or whatever)

 

[Kamille]

Shortly after the truck was found , a source said he was killed inside the vehicle
http://www.thespec.com/news-story/2878073-bosma-slain-inside-his-truck-source-says/
Must have been blood splatter or something similar because police said TB was likely dead (before they found his remains)

I agree if one person (alone) did it , a handgun would be required , but the logistics of that would not be easy either (risky for the thief-driver)

My gut wants to say both DM & MS were in the truck , and the backseat position would be best for doing it , either by choking or by gun or maybe stabbing .... but then we come back to how did the Yukon follow ???

If a bullet was found with the remains it could be matched (metallurgy) with a box of ammo (in a home or whatever)

Picture a scenario where the driver stops the vehicle in a secluded area and tells the passenger to get out. He's shown no indication of a weapon at this point. The passenger, larger than the driver and with an attachment to the vehicle as the owner, lunges toward the ignition to grab for the keys. The driver may have a concealed gun on his person. Now how do you picture that scene?

MOO

 

[Sphinx]

Picture a scenario where the driver stops the vehicle in a secluded area and tells the passenger to get out. He's shown no indication of a weapon at this point. The passenger, larger than the driver and with an attachment to the vehicle as the owner, lunges toward the ignition to grab for the keys. The driver may have a concealed gun on his person. Now how do you picture that scene?

MOO

This is a possible scenario, but I don't think they planned to leave the owner alive, and able to press charges for theft. Perhaps something unexpected did happen in the truck cab, and Tim refused to exit, because it seems strange that they would shoot inside of the truck, leading to blood stains, and possible bullet holes in the vehicle. I even wonder about ricochet, and the possibilty of them getting injured.

I keep going back in my mind to the purchase and use of the incinerator on a farm with no animals. IMO they planned on murder from the beginning. They came with a gun, and a plan. Like Sharlene Bosma, I find it almost impossible to comprehend that they were willing to murder someone just for a truck, but perhaps they were using drugs, and having delusions of grandeur, while being way over confidant in their abilities as master criminals. It is quite likely that DM, and maybe MS too, had already gotten away with murder more than once. I wish we still had the death penalty in Ontario, and if they are convicted, I think it should be used for human garbage like these two. I also am not in favour of a light sentence for CN if she is found to be an accomplice. She should spend several years in prison. It is highly probable that both she and MS have made some kind of deal with the Crown, in order to receive lighter sentences. Who knows, the trial may be shorter than we think, if they both testify against DM.

 

[Arnie M]

Picture a scenario where the driver stops the vehicle in a secluded area and tells the passenger to get out. He's shown no indication of a weapon at this point. The passenger, larger than the driver and with an attachment to the vehicle as the owner, lunges toward the ignition to grab for the keys. The driver may have a concealed gun on his person. Now how do you picture that scene?

MOO

Hi Kamille .... I would have a hard time believing they would simply steal the truck and "let Tim go" ... he would be too much of a good witness able to identify them and it would be foolhardy to plan it that way .

I still say the thief-murderers had a reasonably good plan and would have gotten away with it except for the huge publicity that erupted the next day ... they never anticipated that would happen ... typically car thefts and missing adults are not a priority for police or society or news media ... we would likely never even have heard about it until it eventually emerged as a cold-case missing-person months or years later

I also have difficulty with them getting him outside the truck , then kill him , and then put him back inside .... unless he was transferred to the Yukon , which would require wrapping in plastic or similar .... whereas it was reported that the seats were removed from the stolen truck .... must have been a reason for that.