Tim Miller: Possible Lawsuit against Casey

[Chilly Willy]

TM is a very compassionate man, dedicated to finding people dead or alive. I would say sadly most of them are deceased. I believe that he believed that FCA's Mom and Pop did not know Caylee was deceased at the time and wanted to bring them closure. CA did not want him looking for a deceased Caylee. Whether it was denial or not I am not sure. At the time the case was bringing increased interest to citizens all around the country. If I call correctly it was the biggest search he had ever done with thousands of volunteers. He gave his all and so did his searchers. TM is mad(and I don"t blame him) If the DF allegations of Caylee demise on June 16th 2008 are true(and I don not believe they are. All the A's wasted TM's time.
These are my feelings.

I can't see searching for a deceased child's body as a waste of time.

 

[Chilly Willy]

I don't know if those were the right words (wild goose chase). He was trying to help bring closure to a family. I guess those words could be used after the fact, when the DF team said in their OS that Caylee had died on June 16th.
Sorry for the confusion.

I understand, no problem. Even if Caylee had drowned in the pool on June 16th, which very few people believe, didn't she deserve to be found? Casey sure wasn't telling where she was.

 

[suzihawk]

I can't see searching for a deceased child's body as a waste of time.

I understand, no problem. Even if Caylee had drowned in the pool on June 16th, which very few people believe, didn't she deserve to be found? Casey sure wasn't telling where she was.

I kinda think that's the point of his suit. :waitasec: Seeing as how it was just an 'accident' and all.

 

[Ricki]

I can't see searching for a deceased child's body as a waste of time.

Again I must be inserting words that are confusing. My appologies again. It is never a waste of time. KC obviously knew where Caylee was all along.

 

[LambChop]

All of you have good points, but what really bothers me is this - now, in this instance, TM is choosing to sue someone for an unfruitful search. Well, I don't believe this is the first time he's been in this situation, whether he knew it or not. Once you cross the line from being a saviour, the last hope for many, and get into suing someone you dislike, disagree with, or feel duped by, in my opinion, you have taken yourself out of the saviour field and in the spot of money changers. But, this is only my opinion. I think he needs to let it go, I see no good coming out of it.

My opinion only

KC knew her child was dead and where she was. KC allowed TES to go out and search with her blessings, she never stopped them. What was KC's intention? To find her child, no? She provided false information that cost TES to search when all KC had to do was tell the truth. If, as KC claims, Caylee drowned she has cost the taxpayers a million plus dollars based on a lie.

If you were to buy a car and the brakes failed and you totalled your car, how would you feel if you found the manufacturer of the car knew all along that the car had bad brakes but never told you. It's a planned deception that cost a significant amount of money. A search that did not need to be done because KC knew where Caylee was. There was no nanny that took the child, killed her and dumped her body where no on knew...KC knew and KC lied. jmo

 

[Ricki]

I kinda think that's the point of his suit. :waitasec: Seeing as how it was just an 'accident' and all.

Thank you Suzihawk. I guess I am not presenting my thoughts the way I am thinking them in my head. Or I am being misunderstood. I hold a high regard for
TM and his work. Every deceased person needs to be found for closure and sadly all are not found.

 

[Nova24]

But for ICA saying Caylee was kidnapped and missing he never would have put in valuable time and resources to search for her. ICA now claims she was dead all along. There was never a need for a search. There was never a need to spend valuable resources here. There was never a need for people to waste valuable time looking for a baby the mother knew was dead all along. It all comes back to ICA's lies.

I'm glad he's suing to recoup donations made. He should. Let the hard earned money people donated be recouped and go to finding another missing child.

God bless TM for dedicating his life to such a worthy cause.

 

[Chilly Willy]

I kinda think that's the point of his suit. :waitasec: Seeing as how it was just an 'accident' and all.

The murderer, or actually the murderer's attorney, lied about what happened to Caylee. Isn't that what most murderers do? Is Tim suing because he feels Caylee didn't get justice? Is it revenge? Is it the publicity? What is his motivation for suing Casey when surely he's been in similar situations in the past and didn't sue? Why did he decide to ignore all those other families that needed him? I don't know the answers to any of those questions, obviously, but it sure feels wrong to me. It feels like Tim is no longer acting out of the goodness of his heart but for some other much less noble reason. I'm very sad to see it.

 

[Americka]

Thank you Suzihawk. I guess I am not presenting my thoughts the way I am thinking them in my head. Or I am being misunderstood. I hold a high regard for
TM and his work. Every deceased person needs to be found for closure and sadly all are not found.

Ricki, I understood clearly what you were communicating. ITA w/ you.

 

[Ricki]

KC knew her child was dead and where she was. KC allowed TES to go out and search with her blessings, she never stopped them. What was KC's intention? To find her child, no? She provided false information that cost TES to search when all KC had to do was tell the truth. If, as KC claims, Caylee drowned she has cost the taxpayers a million plus dollars based on a lie.

If you were to buy a car and the brakes failed and you totalled your car, how would you feel if you found the manufacturer of the car knew all along that the car had bad brakes but never told you. It's a planned deception that cost a significant amount of money. A search that did not need to be done because KC knew where Caylee was. There was no nanny that took the child, killed her and dumped her body where no on knew...KC knew and KC lied. jmo

My thoughts but you have said it much better. Thanks

 

[Chilly Willy]

KC knew her child was dead and where she was. KC allowed TES to go out and search with her blessings, she never stopped them. What was KC's intention? To find her child, no? She provided false information that cost TES to search when all KC had to do was tell the truth. If, as KC claims, Caylee drowned she has cost the taxpayers a million plus dollars based on a lie.

If you were to buy a car and the brakes failed and you totalled your car, how would you feel if you found the manufacturer of the car knew all along that the car had bad brakes but never told you. It's a planned deception that cost a significant amount of money. A search that did not need to be done because KC knew where Caylee was. There was no nanny that took the child, killed her and dumped her body where no on knew...KC knew and KC lied. jmo

So you're saying that Tim is suing because the murderer wasn't honest with him? Is he so naive that he expected her to be? He knew, just like we here all knew, that Casey killed Caylee and hid the body. It was Tim's decision to make this such a huge search. Why did he treat this particular search different than any other?

 

[LambChop]

I can't see searching for a deceased child's body as a waste of time.

KC made the decision to lie, hide her child's body and agreed to let TES search for the child when she knew where the body was. It was misuse of TES' time and money when KC withheld the information that she knew where the body was. She was not talking so TES searched but KC was "wasting" TES's time and money (not her money but someone else's money) by continuing to lie. KC takes no responsibility for her actions. KC was being intentionally deceitful by not telling the truth. jmo

 

[suzihawk]

So you're saying that Tim is suing because the murderer wasn't honest with him? Is he so naive that he expected her to be? He knew, just like we here all knew, that Casey killed Caylee and hid the body. It was Tim's decision to make this such a huge search. Why did he treat this particular search different than any other?

How do you know that? At that time, many (including law enforcement) were still working under the assumption there was a kidnapping since that what ICA said happened. They may have been suspicious, but they're bound to investigate all options. I'm sure TM works under the same type of guidelines.

Do you know of any other cases he's worked that is similar to this one?

 

[LambChop]

The murderer, or actually the murderer's attorney, lied about what happened to Caylee. Isn't that what most murderers do? Is Tim suing because he feels Caylee didn't get justice? Is it revenge? Is it the publicity? What is his motivation for suing Casey when surely he's been in similar situations in the past and didn't sue? Why did he decide to ignore all those other families that needed him? I don't know the answers to any of those questions, obviously, but it sure feels wrong to me. It feels like Tim is no longer acting out of the goodness of his heart but for some other much less noble reason. I'm very sad to see it.

Who said JB was lying? He claims Caylee drowned. She either drowned or KC killed her daughter. Either way JB is saying she knew her daughter was dead and knew where she was. Tim said he has never, never run into a case like this before. Who would even call him out if they killed their child? You don't call TES in to find a body you don't want found... Unless, you had no choice when you're mother call's him in because she believes your story. And why didn't KC send him away, tell him not search. Because it would have made her look guilty as sin.

Maybe Tim's just doing what the CA's were never able to accomplish. Let KC know she is responsible for her own actions. Lies hurt people. She has run up costs in the hundreds of thousands of dollars on a whim. Time she paid for her damages.

Tim is not fighting for himself. He fighting for all those people who used their own money to come to Florida and help him search. Any money recovered would go into another worthwhile search for a missing person and hopefully with happier results. The only money he would ever take is if she were to get a paid interview. He would never take food from her mouth. jmo

 

[LambChop]

So you're saying that Tim is suing because the murderer wasn't honest with him? Is he so naive that he expected her to be? He knew, just like we here all knew, that Casey killed Caylee and hid the body. It was Tim's decision to make this such a huge search. Why did he treat this particular search different than any other?

No, I think he was under the assumption that the Nanny could have killed Caylee. In which case no one but the nanny would know the location of the body.

 

[Blaze]

My impression based on an interview with a local station is that Jose, if he has any sense, should be very worried. Casey/Jose stated when Tim arrived Caylee was alive. Opening statements stated Caylee deceased on June 16th. Court motion after Court motion dragging TES into court soley to use for reasonable doubt when the defense knew Caylee was deceased and her location. Jose/Casey/PI's perpetrated a fraud on TES. OCSO has criminal complaint open for witness tampering, hopefully TES lawsuit will persue further.

 

[LambChop]

So you're saying that Tim is suing because the murderer wasn't honest with him? Is he so naive that he expected her to be? He knew, just like we here all knew, that Casey killed Caylee and hid the body. It was Tim's decision to make this such a huge search. Why did he treat this particular search different than any other?

Well, KC did claim to be the mother of a missing child. Her attorney did let her speak with him. Tim did say this was the first case he had ever of this kind. Usually the parents want to find their child, did not kill their child and are grateful for whatever help TES can provide them even if it's just recovery. He has a right to recover the money because KC lied to him. I'm sure Tim has little experience interviewing people who murder their children...KC was a classic, he won't soon forget. It's perpetrated fraud. jmo

 

[LambChop]

My impression based on an interview with a local station is that Jose, if he has any sense, should be very worried. Casey/Jose stated when Tim arrived Caylee was alive. Opening statements stated Caylee deceased on June 16th. Court motion after Court motion dragging TES into court soley to use for reasonable doubt when the defense knew Caylee was deceased and her location. Jose/Casey/PI's perpetrated a fraud on TES. OCSO has criminal complaint open for witness tampering, hopefully TES lawsuit will persue further.

I did not see your post...but thanks...my feelings exactly. If it's not coming out of my pocket TES can sue all they want. lol

 

[Trident]

KC knew her child was dead and where she was. KC allowed TES to go out and search with her blessings, she never stopped them. What was KC's intention? To find her child, no? She provided false information that cost TES to search when all KC had to do was tell the truth. If, as KC claims, Caylee drowned she has cost the taxpayers a million plus dollars based on a lie.

If you were to buy a car and the brakes failed and you totalled your car, how would you feel if you found the manufacturer of the car knew all along that the car had bad brakes but never told you. It's a planned deception that cost a significant amount of money. A search that did not need to be done because KC knew where Caylee was. There was no nanny that took the child, killed her and dumped her body where no on knew...KC knew and KC lied. jmo

If "I" hadn't bought the car, the same as KC didn't contact TM and ask him to come, I don't believe I'd be out any money the same as KC didn't dupe TM into anything.

What now? Is TM going to sue the murderer of every deceased person he's found? That's what he needs to do if he's going to start suing anyone at all because every murderer knew where the body was - or, is he going to pick and choose which one might have money coming in?

These are sincere questions. I think he's setting a bad precedent, one that could destroy everything he's worked for and everything I thought he stood for.

My opinion only

 

[Concerned Papa]

My impression based on an interview with a local station is that Jose, if he has any sense, should be very worried. Casey/Jose stated when Tim arrived Caylee was alive. Opening statements stated Caylee deceased on June 16th. Court motion after Court motion dragging TES into court soley to use for reasonable doubt when the defense knew Caylee was deceased and her location. Jose/Casey/PI's perpetrated a fraud on TES. OCSO has criminal complaint open for witness tampering, hopefully TES lawsuit will persue further.

In this country, apparently, a mother telling blatant lie after lie regarding her missing child is just a little ooppsie worthy of nothing more than a slap on the wrist as to criminal punishment. However, civil suits to recover monetary damages directly caused by those lies can still be successfully pursued.

This woman told the WORLD her child was alive and missing. Her attorney told the world her child was alive and missing. Her lies caused Tim Miller's heart felt compassion and stated purpose of Texas Equisearch to spend more money than any of these hucksters had ever seen to try and find this missing child.

His money, time, and compassion were WASTED because of her lies. He has not only the right to sue this liar, he has an obligation to sue on behalf of the other cases he could have pursued were it not for her lies.

In that case, Tim is not nearly as intelligent as I've always believed.

I'm not going to comment on the intelligence of Tim Miller, because frankly I don't know much about the clinical assessment of that sort of thing. But I do know this, I looked into this man's eyes in Orlando, Florida three years ago and decided one thing. If, God forbid, anyone of my loved ones were to ever become missing, there is NO ONE I would call before Tim Miller to help me find them.

In my view, he is a giant among men.