TIMELINE: Garrido's Life; Child Abductions; Adult Murders- WORK IN PROCESS

[MBK]

What I came up with is this person lived on Lipton Street. Not far from the Garrido's. Interestingly enough another registered sex offender is listed as living around the corner from there. (And very close to an area where kids play sports!) Sick! Makes one wonder! Who knows, maybe he still does live there. A phone call might just answer your question.

Thanks, Billylee. I think that the case is worth looking into - - for what might be learned. If anyone knows how to find out more, you never know where it might lead.

 

[Pink Panther]

I found a really great timeline google map on the SacBee site:

http://maps.google.com/maps/ms?f=q&...=41.47566,-108.149414&spn=23.731883,46.757812

I'm not sure if someone has already posted this. If so, sorry to do so again.

: )

 

[MrsGibson]

I was just wondering if anyone knows how PGs step-father died - is it possible that he offed the step-father to gain control of the house...

 

[Californian]

I was just wondering if anyone knows how PGs step-father died - is it possible that he offed the step-father to gain control of the house...

Anything is likely, MrsGibson. Or Franzen might of just died from old age. I re-posted your question in the Patricia Garrido thread today. There are people in the WS community that are experts are digging up records, so stay tuned for an answer.

 

[Billylee]

"Question: I've overlooked the date of this crime; does anyone know when it happened?"


Garrido was accused of sexually assaulting the girl at an Antioch motel in
April 1972 after giving her barbiturates, Antioch police Lt. Leonard Orman said.


This was from an AP article September 4.

 

[Billylee]

Phillip was married to Christine Murphy aka Christine Marie Perreira in Carson City, Nevada on March 11, 1973. The high school sweethearts eloped. The couple divorced on Oct 20, 1980 in Contra Costa, California.Sources: Ancestry.com and DailyMail.co.uk

 

[i.b.nora]

Californian will want to add this to the timeline:

'92 tipster told of girl like Dugard in Oakley

"Ten months after Jaycee Dugard was snatched off a South Lake Tahoe street in 1991, a caller told police he thought he had just seen the girl at an Oakley gas station, staring for a long time at a picture of herself on a "missing" poster, authorities told The Chronicle on Monday.

The call came from a pay telephone at a Chevron station that is less than 2 miles from the home outside Antioch where police now say Dugard was held for 18 years in a backyard compound of sheds and tents by Phillip Craig Garrido and his wife, Nancy Garrido.

The man who called in the tip to the Contra Costa County Sheriff's Office reported seeing the girl return to a yellow van, possibly a Dodge, authorities said Monday. Last month, police towed away a dilapidated, yellow Dodge Ram van with flat tires that was half-buried in dirt behind the home of Dugard's kidnap suspects.

Sheriff's Capt. Dan Terry confirmed the possible early sighting of Dugard after being asked about it Monday by The Chronicle."

 

[kbl8201]

Californian will want to add this to the timeline:

'92 tipster told of girl like Dugard in Oakley

"Ten months after Jaycee Dugard was snatched off a South Lake Tahoe street in 1991, a caller told police he thought he had just seen the girl at an Oakley gas station, staring for a long time at a picture of herself on a "missing" poster, authorities told The Chronicle on Monday.

The call came from a pay telephone at a Chevron station that is less than 2 miles from the home outside Antioch where police now say Dugard was held for 18 years in a backyard compound of sheds and tents by Phillip Craig Garrido and his wife, Nancy Garrido.


The man who called in the tip to the Contra Costa County Sheriff's Office reported seeing the girl return to a yellow van, possibly a Dodge, authorities said Monday. Last month, police towed away a dilapidated, yellow Dodge Ram van with flat tires that was half-buried in dirt behind the home of Dugard's kidnap suspects.

Sheriff's Capt. Dan Terry confirmed the possible early sighting of Dugard after being asked about it Monday by The Chronicle."

though this was just a hoax.
now it appears to be another missed opportunity :banghead:

 

[Billylee]

Just an observation on the earlier timeline. Garrido was supposed to have moved to Reno in 70 or 71. His girlfriend/future wife, Christine, however, was still in high school in Antioch. Correct? She graduated in 1971. And they didn't marry until 1973. He also apparently abducted the 14 year old in 1972. So, obviously, he was NOT in Reno all the time. His brother said he moved to reno to get away from drug lords or something, but that could very well be just what Phillip told him. He may have moved away because he'd already done something he was trying to hide from. This guy got around!

 

[kbl8201]

Just an observation on the earlier timeline. Garrido was supposed to have moved to Reno in 70 or 71. His girlfriend/future wife, Christine, however, was still in high school in Antioch. Correct? She graduated in 1971. And they didn't marry until 1973. He also apparently abducted the 14 year old in 1972. So, obviously, he was NOT in Reno all the time. His brother said he moved to reno to get away from drug lords or something, but that could very well be just what Phillip told him. He may have moved away because he'd already done something he was trying to hide from. This guy got around!

i seem to remember about a week ago reading that more vicims are coming forward maybe its frmo that timeline?

 

[i.b.nora]

though this was just a hoax.

NO WHERE in the article does it state that it was "just a hoax".

What the article said is:
"Sheriff's Capt. Dan Terry (of the Contra Costa Sheriff's Department) confirmed the possible early sighting of Dugard after being asked about it Monday by The Chronicle.

Terry said such tips are common in criminal cases that are highly publicized, as Dugard's kidnapping was in the early 1990s. He said his agency had responded appropriately, sending a deputy to the gas station, but that the yellow van was gone, as was the caller - who did not leave his name and has never come forward.

"We don't know if there was any truth to it," said Terry, who is head of investigations for his agency. "We don't know if it was real or a hoax. Nothing ever came of it."

Terry said the call was made about 6 p.m. on April 22, 1992, almost a year after Dugard was abducted on June 10, 1991, while she waited alone on a South Lake Tahoe street for a school bus. She was 11 when she was kidnapped and is now 29.

Police had no license plate to track and no good location to stake out, Terry said, and the caller did not say which direction the van had driven. He said dispatchers would have alerted other officers to be on the lookout for the van, and that a copy of the report had been sent to investigators in El Dorado County, who were leading the search for Dugard."

Maybe the original caller, if he is still alive and sees or hears about this news article, will come forward. In the meantime, I guess we can only speculate.
Personally, I speculate that it was a legitimate sighting and should be included in the timeline.

 

[kbl8201]

NO WHERE in the article does it state that it was "just a hoax".

What the article said is:
"Sheriff's Capt. Dan Terry (of the Contra Costa Sheriff's Department) confirmed the possible early sighting of Dugard after being asked about it Monday by The Chronicle.

Terry said such tips are common in criminal cases that are highly publicized, as Dugard's kidnapping was in the early 1990s. He said his agency had responded appropriately, sending a deputy to the gas station, but that the yellow van was gone, as was the caller - who did not leave his name and has never come forward.

"We don't know if there was any truth to it," said Terry, who is head of investigations for his agency. "We don't know if it was real or a hoax. Nothing ever came of it."

Terry said the call was made about 6 p.m. on April 22, 1992, almost a year after Dugard was abducted on June 10, 1991, while she waited alone on a South Lake Tahoe street for a school bus. She was 11 when she was kidnapped and is now 29.

Police had no license plate to track and no good location to stake out, Terry said, and the caller did not say which direction the van had driven. He said dispatchers would have alerted other officers to be on the lookout for the van, and that a copy of the report had been sent to investigators in El Dorado County, who were leading the search for Dugard."

Maybe the original caller, if he is still alive and sees or hears about this news article, will come forward. In the meantime, I guess we can only speculate.
Personally, I speculate that it was a legitimate sighting and should be included in the timeline.

the description of the vehicle kinda rules out that it was a hoax.
like i said, its another missed opportunity instead

 

[Billylee]

the description of the vehicle kinda rules out that it was a hoax.
like i said, its another missed opportunity instead

I'd ditto that! One more "slip under the radar"! Yikes, this is beginning to sound like "catch me if you can"!

 

[Billylee]

i seem to remember about a week ago reading that more vicims are coming forward maybe its frmo that timeline?

Do you recall where you read that? I'd be interested in reading it. Thanks.

 

[Billylee]

I would like to make a suggestion here, though I have no idea how to implement it. Maybe it's even been already done. Since Jaycee and her children have been rescued, BUT there is still a big question about the alleged siting of "other children" and the PD's are still investigating him for other possible abductions and abuses...... should we start a thread just called.....Phillip Garrido, his past, potential crimes, etc......which would move some of the conversation, about his past, the psychology of his and Nancy's minds, etc.... to a place away from Jaycee and her healing threads. Just a thought, IMO not only would it make following the links a little easier, but I thought it might take the pressure off of ALWAYS puttnig Jaycee's name with Phillip's????? Like they are one in the same topic, know what I mean?

 

[time]

This may the LA victim:

Kim Mallon
Los Angeles, CA
DOB: April 12, 1960
Missing since September 30, 1973
Age: 13
http://www.charleyproject.org/cases/m/mallon_kim.html

It probably would be a good idea to use a different color or to italicize those that you believe are outside of a certain vicinity.

BTW - I am totally impressed with the work you have put into building and maintaining this timeline!

:clap:

ETA - One more to consider:

http://www.charleyproject.org/cases/d/dye_diane.html

Just looking through the missing girls you all are posting... can that pic of Kim Mallon possibly be when she is 13 as it says? She looks more like 3.

 

[kbl8201]

I would like to make a suggestion here, though I have no idea how to implement it. Maybe it's even been already done. Since Jaycee and her children have been rescued, BUT there is still a big question about the alleged siting of "other children" and the PD's are still investigating him for other possible abductions and abuses...... should we start a thread just called.....Phillip Garrido, his past, potential crimes, etc......which would move some of the conversation, about his past, the psychology of his and Nancy's minds, etc.... to a place away from Jaycee and her healing threads. Just a thought, IMO not only would it make following the links a little easier, but I thought it might take the pressure off of ALWAYS puttnig Jaycee's name with Phillip's????? Like they are one in the same topic, know what I mean?

im lost to the point here billy. dont take offense.
to me, i dont have an issue with it. jaycee is what is good about this case and garrido is what is evil. we know how to seperate the two......and them being 'close" or such, in threads is not a problem as far as im concerned

 

[time]

Thanks for the timeline! I think any missing or dead near Reno/Lake Tahoe should be added - Garrido spent a lot of time in that area and it is not that far of a drive.


Also, good grief, I wish we knew more about Nancy

Public records show Nancy Garrido (nee Bocanegra) eventually moved from (area unknown), Texas and at some point lived in New York City. She was living in Denver when she went to visit an uncle imprisoned at Levenworth. It was there she met fellow prisoner Phillip Garrido.

Garrido marries Nancy Bocanegra 10/4/1981 while incarcerated at Levenworth. It is not yet known how long they "dated" prior to being married by the prison chaplain.

Nancy moved to Levenworth (date unknown); Phil served another 7 years of his sentence.

QUESTION: The executive director of Contra Costa ARC said that when Nancy applied for a position as a CNA in 1994, she arrived with "a stellar resume dating back to 1981, with gushing recommendations". What is Nancy's actual employment history???

What was Nancy doing between the time she graduated and met Garrido since she was all over the country it seems?

And, I wonder if Garrido kept any of his connections from Prison? I suppose Nancy's uncle has been researched?

 

[kbl8201]

Thanks for the timeline! I think any missing or dead near Reno/Lake Tahoe should be added - Garrido spent a lot of time in that area and it is not that far of a drive.


Also, good grief, I wish we knew more about Nancy



What was Nancy doing between the time she graduated and met Garrido since she was all over the country it seems?

And, I wonder if Garrido kept any of his connections from Prison? I suppose Nancy's uncle has been researched?

and to think...........jaycee and her family moved to south tahoe because it was safe

 

[LinasK]

I would like to make a suggestion here, though I have no idea how to implement it. Maybe it's even been already done. Since Jaycee and her children have been rescued, BUT there is still a big question about the alleged siting of "other children" and the PD's are still investigating him for other possible abductions and abuses...... should we start a thread just called.....Phillip Garrido, his past, potential crimes, etc......which would move some of the conversation, about his past, the psychology of his and Nancy's minds, etc.... to a place away from Jaycee and her healing threads. Just a thought, IMO not only would it make following the links a little easier, but I thought it might take the pressure off of ALWAYS puttnig Jaycee's name with Phillip's????? Like they are one in the same topic, know what I mean?

Those threads already exist. Just pull up the archived threads for this forum.