Timer55 and Cays234

[aafromaa]

Call me crazy but I think the first time that Casey even thought about calling the timer55 password a "clue" was when LA asked her if it was one. It's been a while and I can't remember if I read a transcript of the conversation or saw a video or heard a recording or what but I do recall thinking at the time that it seemed she was just answering yes to his question in a lightbulb moment kind of thing - "sure, why not - I'll just tell him, yes it was a clue and see where he takes it and maybe he'll come up with something that makes it look like someone else was involved."

I am one of those people that think many give too much credit to Casey for putting this all together. I really think that she just made up lies as the need for them came up as opposed to thinking this out ahead of time and leaving clues. I think she's pretty quick to jump on things that others come up with and finds ways to tie things together but isn't quite smart enough to know they don't add up. For example, I have yet to figure out how June 16th to July 15th adds up to 31 days - I would count it as 29 but can see how others would count it as 30 but can't see how anyone (except Casey) gets 31 days.

I could be wrong but it also seems that I recall that the A's concluded the timer55 clue was from the day Caylee disappeared (June 16th) to her birthday (Aug 9th) and that Casey seemed to confirm this in one of the taped jail visits but again, I would count June 16th - Aug 9th as 54 days but can see how others would count it as 55 days but I don't think Casey came up with that as what timer55 meant - I think the A's (probably LA) came up with it and she just decided to agree and my guess is that someone asked her if the nanny was the one that gave her the password and she came up with "the nanny changed the password" as one of her not so well thought out lies to cover up.

As for what timer55 did mean to Casey when she changed that password, I don't know but I doubt that it is as complicated as many of the theories are.

 

[jjgram]

WELL>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> if the NANNY/ZANNY..... changed the
P A S S WORD.............then how was she
conversing... with KC .... Did the N?/Z ? call her and tell her
the
N E W ~~PASSWORD>>>> how could KC receive the new...
messages... and f o l l o w .... follow.... follow...
~~~~~~~~ THE I N S T R U C T I O N S ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ !!!!!

The T W I L I G H T ~~~~~~ ZONE ! ! ! !

with out the password... how would KC FOLLOW ! ?
Since there are NO PHONE CALLS RECORDED>>>. ? DUH????

*** IF THERE WERE "E" MAILS>>>>>>>>>> TEXT MESSAGES ~~~
then
the LE could get them.... use the E V I D E N C E and

F O L L O W ~~~ UP and T * R * A * C * K * D O WN THE KILLER!!!!

DUH !!!!!!!!!!!!!! Oh I have just had it... that
LA & KC think that everyone is soooooooooooo STUPID !!
and that they are sooooooooooooo smart....
ALL BECAUSE>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>THEY BELIEVE EACHOTHER!

GRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! !

over & out of patience with this BS!

JMO
jjgram

****FOR JUSTICE SOON ~~~ FOR LITTLE ANGEL CAYLEE ! ! ! *****

 

[TURBOTHINK]

Yeah and if Zanny changed it in June then how did KC get the new password??
What, did Zanny say to KC "Oh yeah by the way I'm changing your password and it's gonna be Timer55" That is just so stupid! I can't believe the crapola these people come up with. Makes me wanna uke:

The password was changed in May...........HOW would zanny know it would need to be changed a month before?

 

[TURBOTHINK]

Having made the drive just a week ago, I can tell you it doesn't take 55 seconds to drive from the house to the remains site. It might take about 20 seconds.

I said the SAME thing.............That was a real stretch trying to make that up and expect someone to believe it.

 

[Noddy]

Call me crazy but I think the first time that Casey even thought about calling the timer55 password a "clue" was when LA asked her if it was one. It's been a while and I can't remember if I read a transcript of the conversation or saw a video or heard a recording or what but I do recall thinking at the time that it seemed she was just answering yes to his question in a lightbulb moment kind of thing - "sure, why not - I'll just tell him, yes it was a clue and see where he takes it and maybe he'll come up with something that makes it look like someone else was involved."

I am one of those people that think many give too much credit to Casey for putting this all together. I really think that she just made up lies as the need for them came up as opposed to thinking this out ahead of time and leaving clues. I think she's pretty quick to jump on things that others come up with and finds ways to tie things together but isn't quite smart enough to know they don't add up. For example, I have yet to figure out how June 16th to July 15th adds up to 31 days - I would count it as 29 but can see how others would count it as 30 but can't see how anyone (except Casey) gets 31 days.

I could be wrong but it also seems that I recall that the A's concluded the timer55 clue was from the day Caylee disappeared (June 16th) to her birthday (Aug 9th) and that Casey seemed to confirm this in one of the taped jail visits but again, I would count June 16th - Aug 9th as 54 days but can see how others would count it as 55 days but I don't think Casey came up with that as what timer55 meant - I think the A's (probably LA) came up with it and she just decided to agree and my guess is that someone asked her if the nanny was the one that gave her the password and she came up with "the nanny changed the password" as one of her not so well thought out lies to cover up.

As for what timer55 did mean to Casey when she changed that password, I don't know but I doubt that it is as complicated as many of the theories are.

Bold by me. That does seem the way she communicates. In one of the jail house visits her mom asks, does anyone have a key to the house and she responds, I told you that Zanny has a key. She just expands on a lead. I think the reason she said she didn't want to talk with Yuri Melich or John Allen again was that they asked her open ended questions ... she actually had to explain things. She said she would be more comfortable talking with Appe Wells. His technique tended to give the answers to the questions so all she had to do is agree. As for Time55 I truly believe it has nothing to do with a kidnapping plot because when I was trying to remove malware from my computer the coding in the report had Timer55 in it. It definately had something to do with computer jargon in my case. As far as Cays234, well, that's as elementary as Ants123 unless Lee can suggest something more intriguing that KC can agree to.

 

[Intermezzo]

The password was changed in May...........HOW would zanny know it would need to be changed a month before?

I'm on the train that believes "timer55" had to do with the count down to the PR trip in July and had nothing to do with Caylee.

I do remember reading in the docs the computer forensics report and the info on the password but I did not save it and I have been going back to find it so it can be posted and verified.

Has anyone else found the computer forensic reoprt in the docs that documented when the password was changed?

 

[Elley Mae]

I'm on the train that believes "timer55" had to do with the count down to the PR trip in July and had nothing to do with Caylee.

I do remember reading in the docs the computer forensics report and the info on the password but I did not save it and I have been going back to find it so it can be posted and verified.

Has anyone else found the computer forensic reoprt in the docs that documented when the password was changed?

This was discussed long ago, but I am one to say that you are on the right track,IIRC it was May 15 which is/would be 55 days.

 

[Manny]

I wonder if Casey and her family often played the game CLUE together. I think they are inflicted with the same disease... "life is a mystery" let's play. Watching their thought processes is exhausting. BTW what the heck was CAY234 supposed to mean, hmmm??

 

[RevCrim]

The password was changed in May...........HOW would zanny know it would need to be changed a month before?

I recall a conversation (gosh only knows where) whereby, KC changed her password to Timer55 and LA was there at the time and they shared a big laugh over it. My thought is since they both are not the brightest lights bulbs in the chandelier, that with their disrespect for GA, that it may have meant- Old Timer turns 55 this year. They shared a laugh over what to get GA for father's day- a book on :How to get a job for dummy's.

Cute real cute...

So now I wonder what password the searches came up on? Was she going to set GA up? KC had a plan, but Caylee was not the immediate plan- that was a freaky coincidence that spoiled everything.

 

[Ariane]

Call me crazy but I think the first time that Casey even thought about calling the timer55 password a "clue" was when LA asked her if it was one. It's been a while and I can't remember if I read a transcript of the conversation or saw a video or heard a recording or what but I do recall thinking at the time that it seemed she was just answering yes to his question in a lightbulb moment kind of thing - "sure, why not - I'll just tell him, yes it was a clue and see where he takes it and maybe he'll come up with something that makes it look like someone else was involved."

I am one of those people that think many give too much credit to Casey for putting this all together. I really think that she just made up lies as the need for them came up as opposed to thinking this out ahead of time and leaving clues. I think she's pretty quick to jump on things that others come up with and finds ways to tie things together but isn't quite smart enough to know they don't add up. For example, I have yet to figure out how June 16th to July 15th adds up to 31 days - I would count it as 29 but can see how others would count it as 30 but can't see how anyone (except Casey) gets 31 days.

I could be wrong but it also seems that I recall that the A's concluded the timer55 clue was from the day Caylee disappeared (June 16th) to her birthday (Aug 9th) and that Casey seemed to confirm this in one of the taped jail visits but again, I would count June 16th - Aug 9th as 54 days but can see how others would count it as 55 days but I don't think Casey came up with that as what timer55 meant - I think the A's (probably LA) came up with it and she just decided to agree and my guess is that someone asked her if the nanny was the one that gave her the password and she came up with "the nanny changed the password" as one of her not so well thought out lies to cover up.

As for what timer55 did mean to Casey when she changed that password, I don't know but I doubt that it is as complicated as many of the theories are.

I was struck by the similarity in what you wrote and my own comment a bit earlier in this thread. We are on the same page about how Casey gets flights of inspiration, or as you say "lightbulb moments" from people's questions if they are phrased to include some suggestion......result= other people end up making up half her story for her and they don't even realise what happened!

 

[Searchfortruth]

It just became clear to me why GA, CA and KC all agreed that the last day they saw Caylee had been June 8, 2008.

That is the day "the friends" left for P.R. They would claim that the friends took Caylee with them when they went to P.R. "The boys did this."

Thank God for the Father's day video. It derailed their whole plan.

What a brilliant bunch!

I'm sure this is why they picked the date of June 8 forgetting all about the June 15 video.

Remember how they leaned so heavily upon the kidnapping story? KC would have thrown all of them under the bus without hesitation.

Wow, I am so happy to find this post ! Thank you...that date had always bothered me and I totally forgot they left for PR on June 8th !!!!! :dance:

 

[Ariane]

I'm on the train that believes "timer55" had to do with the count down to the PR trip in July and had nothing to do with Caylee.

I do remember reading in the docs the computer forensics report and the info on the password but I did not save it and I have been going back to find it so it can be posted and verified.

Has anyone else found the computer forensic reoprt in the docs that documented when the password was changed?

Have you (or anyone) found a computer forensic document that supposedly says a password was changed to timer55 on 15 May? That post you copied from topix a while back seemed to make sense to me at first glance.

I think you were the one to bring this quote here from a post at Topix.

Margaret In Houston wrote:
<quoted text>
In the interview cindy says she(Casey) changed the password on the desktop to timer55. They thought maybe it was changed on June 14th- a date cindy and george both mention.
Here is when the password was changed...
From the computer forensic report
May 14- 8:49 am Password for DESKTOP computer changed for user casey.55 days from May 14th is approximately when they all left for Puerto Rico (july 8)so I think it was related to that. ​

Intermezzo, Are you certain that you saw this in an official document?
Because I am now wondering if it was totally a hoax.

1. It is surprising to me that if this exists in the documents someone here has not found it. As I'm sure you know, it is not in that OCSO computer forensic report that has the "Diary of Days" etc.

2. This topix post quote purportedly from a computer forensic report, is about the computer logon password. But "timer55" was supposed to be her facebook password; . She said there was not meaning behind the computer PW. And if the computer and facebook pws were both "timer55", why would she say only one was significant? http://www.websleuths.com/forums/showpost.php?p=3057681&postcount=227

Does anyone know if Margaret In Houston still posts on topix ? One could ask for a link to where she got the info.

How are facebook passwords stored? Would that be in a cookie?

 

[sharpar]

Wow, I am so happy to find this post ! Thank you...that date had always bothered me and I totally forgot they left for PR on June 8th !!!!! :dance:

Except the date the Ant Farm kept using was June 9th.

 

[Woe.be.gone]

I stand corrected. The Puerto Rico trip took place in July. Thank you to all the sharp websleuthers for setting me straight. My apologies for putting wrong facts out there.

The dates of June 5-10, coincide with CA's B-day, the demise of KC's relationship with RM due to her new "hot" relationship with TL, and the breakin of a ZG's office and computer. This also seems to be the week things got sticky in regard to CA looking after Caylee. At the same time, TL wasn't allowing KC to have Caylee at his place.

 

[weasel]

Wow, I am so happy to find this post ! Thank you...that date had always bothered me and I totally forgot they left for PR on June 8th !!!!! :dance:

I wonder if Casey had GA and CA believing that she hadn't seen Caylee since that date, until CA brought out the video.

 

[JWG]

Info from the laptop:

[FONT=&quot]User name: bobby[/FONT]

[FONT=&quot]Full Name: case face[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]Type of User: Local User[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]Account Description: [/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]Primary Group Number: 513[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]Security Identifier: S-1-5-21-4184637735-1215142919-1304212445-1005[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]User belongs to group: Administrators[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]Logon Script: [/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]Profile Path: %SystemDrive%\Documents and Settings\bobby[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]Last Logon: 07/15/08 06:42:10PM[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]Last Password Change: 06/24/08 08:56:47PM[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]Last Incorrect Password Logon:

[/FONT]Info from the desktop:

[FONT=&quot] User name: casey[/FONT]

[FONT=&quot]Full Name: casa de anthony[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]Type of User: Local User[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]Account Description: [/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]Primary Group Number: 513[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]Security Identifier: S-1-5-21-121217872-2017380362-3718819000-1007[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]User belongs to group: Users[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]Logon Script: [/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]Profile Path: %SystemDrive%\Documents and Settings\casey[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]Last Logon: 07/16/08 04:19:08PM[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]Last Password Change: 05/14/08 08:49:19AM[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]Last Incorrect Password Logon: [/FONT]

[FONT=&quot]User name: Owner[/FONT]

[FONT=&quot]Full Name: case[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]Type of User: Local User[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]Account Description: [/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]Primary Group Number: 513[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]Security Identifier: S-1-5-21-121217872-2017380362-3718819000-1003[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]User belongs to group: Administrators[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]Logon Script: [/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]Profile Path: %SystemDrive%\Documents and Settings\Owner[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]Last Logon: 07/16/08 04:57:56AM[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]Last Password Change: 05/14/08 08:49:19AM[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]Last Incorrect Password Logon: 07/16/08 02:38:19PM[/FONT]

 

[JWG]

On 07/15/2008 at 22:57:14 Tue from desktop account casey Lee reset KC's Facebook password after trying several times to login:

https://login.facebook.com/reset.php
login.facebook.com
Facebook | Reset Password

 

[Intermezzo]

Have you (or anyone) found a computer forensic document that supposedly says a password was changed to timer55 on 15 May? That post you copied from topix a while back seemed to make sense to me at first glance.

I think you were the one to bring this quote here from a post at Topix.

Margaret In Houston wrote:
<quoted text>
In the interview cindy says she(Casey) changed the password on the desktop to timer55. They thought maybe it was changed on June 14th- a date cindy and george both mention.
Here is when the password was changed...
From the computer forensic report
May 14- 8:49 am Password for DESKTOP computer changed for user casey.55 days from May 14th is approximately when they all left for Puerto Rico (july 8)so I think it was related to that. ​

Intermezzo, Are you certain that you saw this in an official document?
Because I am now wondering if it was totally a hoax.

1. It is surprising to me that if this exists in the documents someone here has not found it. As I'm sure you know, it is not in that OCSO computer forensic report that has the "Diary of Days" etc.

2. This topix post quote purportedly from a computer forensic report, is about the computer logon password. But "timer55" was supposed to be her facebook password; . She said there was not meaning behind the computer PW. And if the computer and facebook pws were both "timer55", why would she say only one was significant? http://www.websleuths.com/forums/showpost.php?p=3057681&postcount=227

Does anyone know if Margaret In Houston still posts on topix ? One could ask for a link to where she got the info.

How are facebook passwords stored? Would that be in a cookie?

Hi
I had, awhile ago, gone back to the computer forensic reports also and did not see anything specifically naming the passwords.

Okay.

I just went back to listen to Cindy's FBI interview(part 5 of 11) given on July 30th. This where the Timer55 password theory was discussed by Cindy (it starts around the 13:10 mark)

http://www.wftv.com/video/18049738/index.html

I'll briefly summarize, I will be going back to listen to it again.

Cindy spoke of the home computer, the desktop, has a main logon password "casa de anthony', that anyone can use..THEN.....

Each USER also has their own password, casey's password used to be rico234 or 262.
That Casey had changed her password to timer55.

That George and Lee know what the meaning of the numbers 234 is

Cindy goes on to say casey told Lee that she has 55 days to be taught a lesson, then Cindy counts June 14 to August 9th is 55 days, Caylee's birthday (here is where I go WTF! I understand this as-Casey changed the password on June 14 BEFORE Caylee went missing????)

Cindy also said she's not sure what date the password was changed, and that LE can find out because they took the computer

Now did Casey change all her passwords to timer55? It seems she has told conflicting stories, LOL LOL
Not sure if my post will make sense, I am typing quickly because I have to leave again, I will be listening to the interview again when I return.

I'm back now LOL
If what Cindy said is the truth (in the FBI interview) that Casey changed her password on the home desktop from rico234 to timer55, then going back to the computer forensic report(JWG has posted this report in this thread) showing that May 14 is the date the password was changed the theory of timer55 being the count down to the Puerto Rico trip seems very plausible.

 

[tiredofthis]

Wouldn't that be something?!? Somehow it wouldn't surprise me. And she would be the one who knew just when to send the email to GA and just what to say to appeal to him. We already know she is capable of the fake emails, and that she is willing to steal money from her parents.

You know that might explain why George didn't want to tell anyone about losing the money. Maybe he found out it was KC after the money was gone.

 

[Intermezzo]

Info from the laptop:

[FONT=&quot]User name: bobby[/FONT]

[FONT=&quot]Full Name: case face[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]Type of User: Local User[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]Account Description: [/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]Primary Group Number: 513[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]Security Identifier: S-1-5-21-4184637735-1215142919-1304212445-1005[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]User belongs to group: Administrators[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]Logon Script: [/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]Profile Path: %SystemDrive%\Documents and Settings\bobby[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]Last Logon: 07/15/08 06:42:10PM[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]Last Password Change: 06/24/08 08:56:47PM[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]Last Incorrect Password Logon:

[/FONT]Info from the desktop:

[FONT=&quot] User name: casey[/FONT]

[FONT=&quot]Full Name: casa de anthony[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]Type of User: Local User[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]Account Description: [/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]Primary Group Number: 513[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]Security Identifier: S-1-5-21-121217872-2017380362-3718819000-1007[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]User belongs to group: Users[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]Logon Script: [/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]Profile Path: %SystemDrive%\Documents and Settings\casey[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]Last Logon: 07/16/08 04:19:08PM[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]Last Password Change: 05/14/08 08:49:19AM[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]Last Incorrect Password Logon: [/FONT]

[FONT=&quot]User name: Owner[/FONT]

[FONT=&quot]Full Name: case[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]Type of User: Local User[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]Account Description: [/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]Primary Group Number: 513[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]Security Identifier: S-1-5-21-121217872-2017380362-3718819000-1003[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]User belongs to group: Administrators[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]Logon Script: [/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]Profile Path: %SystemDrive%\Documents and Settings\Owner[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]Last Logon: 07/16/08 04:57:56AM[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]Last Password Change: 05/14/08 08:49:19AM[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]Last Incorrect Password Logon: 07/16/08 02:38:19PM[/FONT]

Thank you JWG