TN - 4 dead, several injured at Waffle House, Nashville, Apr 2018 *Guilty*

[SeesSeas]

Waffle House shooting trial Day 4: Travis Reinking vlog viewed by jury

defence CIC, I think he was seriously mentally ill when he committed these crimes, and I think I fall on the NG by reason of insanity verdict

I agree - not guilty by reason of insanity.
Seriously delusional and paranoid at time of shootings, prior to shootings, and also his hiding in the aftermath.

Waffle House shooting trial Day 4: Travis Reinking vlog viewed by jury
Feb 3, 2022
Reinking has been diagnosed with schizophrenia. Testimony and court records say he has a severe case of the disease and was dealing with intense hallucinations, delusions and paranoia in the years leading up to the shooting.

The state accepts the diagnosis, but prosecutors dispute there's a connection between those delusions and the violent acts he admits he committed.

 

[Gardenista]

Waffle House shooting trial Day 4: Travis Reinking vlog viewed by jury

defence CIC, I think he was seriously mentally ill when he committed these crimes, and I think I fall on the NG by reason of insanity verdict

Same.

 

[JerseyGirl]

Jury deliberations start today in Waffle House shooting trial

 

[joe jones]

guilty

 

[MimosaMornings]

TRAVIS REINKING GUILTY: Man found guilty on all charges in Antioch Waffle House mass shooting trial

 

[Kittybunny]

I didn't realize that this case had gone to trial, I admit I am a little bit surprised about the guilty verdict. it seemed clear to me at the time that he was mentally ill. I know the bar of insanity is a pretty high one, and I admit I did not watch the trial or follow it so I can't say really what the arguments were. Would be interested in what others think that followed the trial more closely.

 

[Gardenista]

I didn't realize that this case had gone to trial, I admit I am a little bit surprised about the guilty verdict. it seemed clear to me at the time that he was mentally ill. I know the bar of insanity is a pretty high one, and I admit I did not watch the trial or follow it so I can't say really what the arguments were. Would be interested in what others think that followed the trial more closely.

IMO, it's just pure ignorance on the part of the jury. The experts said he was mentally ill at the time, yet the jury went along with the prosecution. The prosecution didn't even call an expert, no doubt because they could not find one who would say he was sane.

 

[SeesSeas]

Travis Reinking found guilty on all charges in 2018 Waffle House mass shooting
Travis Reinking found guilty on all charges in 2018 Waffle House mass shooting
Feb 5, 2022
[...]
The next phase of the trial will come Saturday morning, as the jury will sentence Reinking to life with or without parole.
[...]
During much of the trial, Reinking watched the proceedings with no emotion as his parents and uncle were in attendance. Family members of the victims and survivors, including James Shaw, Jr., attended every day of the trial.
[...]

 

[SeesSeas]

Travis Reinking found guilty on all counts
Feb. 4, 2022
[...]
The defense continued to cite mental health doctors whose opinions were that Reinking could not recognize the wrong in what he did.

Additionally, Evans stated that a verdict on this couldn’t be reached based on the emotions involved.

“There’s not a person in this room that does not have sympathy,” Evans concluded to the jury. “These victims and their families suffered and are continuing to suffer…you can have sympathy…you can’t come up with a verdict based on that.”
[...]
News 4 had a conversation with Reinking’s mother on Friday afternoon. She said he was a normal, loving child and that regardless of the outcome, this was never the life she imagined for her child.

 

[SeesSeas]

WAFFLE HOUSE SHOOTING TRIAL – PENALTY PHASE
Posted at 9:15 AM, February 5, 2022
Waffle House Shooting Trial - Penalty Phase - Court TV

 

[SeesSeas]

Jury recommended life in prison without the possibility of parole for each murder conviction
Judge set a tentative date of May 6 for sentencing

https://twitter.com/ChanleyCourtTV/status/1490054623184539658
Chanley Shá Painter
@ChanleyCourtTV
LIFE WITHOUT PAROLE: After the jury rejected his insanity plea & considered sentencing, they agreed convicted mass murderer #TravisReinking should spend the rest of his life behind bars for killing 4 people & injuring several more on April 22, 2018. TUNE IN Monday @CourtTV
3:08 PM · Feb 5, 2022

Waffle House Shooting Trial Daily Highlights - Court TV
February 5, 2022
NASHVILLE, Tenn. (Court TV) — Rejecting his insanity plea, a jury found Travis Reinking guilty of all charges, including four counts of first-degree murder.
In the penalty phase, the jury recommended life in prison without the possibility of parole for each murder conviction. The judge set a tentative date of May 6 for sentencing.

 

[HanniBJeter]

I was surprised by the verdict. Would it have been better in this case to not have a jury trial but to have a judge deliver the verdict? Would that have been an option? I was disgusted when one of the prosecutors used the term “psycho” in their closing remarks. On the other hand it was very powerful when the one prosecutor loaded the bullets in a deliberate manner and stated each victim’s names. I just have a feeling the jury decided their verdict based on what they felt the family’s wanted. IMO it’s too difficult for juries to understand the full depths of mental illness. He was clearly mentally ill.

 

[Betty P]

I wonder if the jury voted this way because Travis would end up bei g an ongoing risk to public safety. He has wealthy parents who always support him, but fail to ensure he's keeping his mental illness u der control. Knowing he had severe mental illness, they still bought guns for him.

Its difficult for our mental health system to keep people like him in treatment. Once they're under medication, they're releasec, and they stop taking it. Its a terrible cycle.

Is this a case of jury nullification, where they made a choice that was in the best interest of public safety?

JMO

 

[SeesSeas]

snip:

He has wealthy parents who always support him, but fail to ensure he's keeping his mental illness u der control. Knowing he had severe mental illness, they still bought guns for him.

Tragic for all!
Did Travis buy the guns? I don't find where parent "bought guns for him".
2018 deposition: Jeffrey Reinking confirmed that in August 2017, police in Tazewell County, Illinois, advised him to keep the guns “away from Travis”

Travis Reinking sentenced to life without parole
Feb 5, 2022
Reinking’s father, Jeff Reinking, is accused of giving Travis his guns back after law enforcement tasked him with keeping them away from his son. The request came in 2017 from police in Tazwell County, Illinois, after an incident involving Travis and federal authorities.
Jeffrey Reinking faces criminal charges in Illinois.
Patricia Perez, mother of Joe Perez told News 2 after Friday’s verdict, her next goal was to hold Jeffery Reinking accountable.

In deposition, Travis Reinking’s dad admits to giving son access to guns before move to Tenn.
In deposition, Reinking’s dad admits giving son access to guns before move to TN
Dec 17, 2018
According to the transcript, Jeffrey Reinking confirmed that in August 2017, police in Tazewell County, Illinois, advised him to keep the guns “away from Travis” after an incident allegedly involving his son and federal authorities.

 

[SeesSeas]

Family of Travis Reinking speaks following sentencing | WKRN News 2
Family of Travis Reinking speaks following sentencing
Feb 5, 2022
[...]
“There are no words that can adequately express the heartache that we feel for the families and the friends and all those that were affected by this tragedy. Our family has been and will continue to be in prayer for the families of these beautiful lives lost, and those who survive with physical and emotional injuries. Our hearts are with you as you suffer through this tragedy and will continue to be with you,” Gene Pflederer, Reinking’s uncle said.

Reinking showed some emotion in the courtroom Saturday as his 13-year-old brother Gabe was present for the first time. Gabe was sitting in the front row and, according to the family, Gabe and Travis were “like best friends.” Travis smiled at Gabe and they waved to each other several times.
[...]

 

[joe jones]

I think he was and is severely mentally ill, and was so at time of murders, I would have voted NG by reason of insanity, I think it would have been a huge ask though for jurors to find this verdict due to the highly emotive testimony at trial,

 

[Betty P]

snip:

Tragic for all!
Did Travis buy the guns? I don't find where parent "bought guns for him".
2018 deposition: Jeffrey Reinking confirmed that in August 2017, police in Tazewell County, Illinois, advised him to keep the guns “away from Travis”

Travis Reinking sentenced to life without parole
Feb 5, 2022
Reinking’s father, Jeff Reinking, is accused of giving Travis his guns back after law enforcement tasked him with keeping them away from his son. The request came in 2017 from police in Tazwell County, Illinois, after an incident involving Travis and federal authorities.
Jeffrey Reinking faces criminal charges in Illinois.
Patricia Perez, mother of Joe Perez told News 2 after Friday’s verdict, her next goal was to hold Jeffery Reinking accountable.

In deposition, Travis Reinking’s dad admits to giving son access to guns before move to Tenn.
In deposition, Reinking’s dad admits giving son access to guns before move to TN
Dec 17, 2018
According to the transcript, Jeffrey Reinking confirmed that in August 2017, police in Tazewell County, Illinois, advised him to keep the guns “away from Travis” after an incident allegedly involving his son and federal authorities.

Thanks for the correction. My original point stands.

Out in society, Travis doesn't have adequate supervision to ensure he takes medication and doesn't have access to guns. Our current mental health system is no longer equipped to provide that level of long-term supervision. IOW, in the case of people like Travis, they're no longer able to provide protection to the general public. Just guessing, but it seems the jury felt an obligation to the community to provide that protection the only way they had available.

Until we can reform and fully fund our mental health care system, the only options for violent people with severe mental illness who are non-compliant with drug therapy are long term incarceration or freedom in the community where they kill and injure innocent people.

 

[Gardenista]

Thanks for the correction. My original point stands.

Out in society, Travis doesn't have adequate supervision to ensure he takes medication and doesn't have access to guns. Our current mental health system is no longer equipped to provide that level of long-term supervision. IOW, in the case of people like Travis, they're no longer able to provide protection to the general public. Just guessing, but it seems the jury felt an obligation to the community to provide that protection the only way they had available.

Until we can reform and fully fund our mental health care system, the only options for violent people with severe mental illness who are non-compliant with drug therapy are long term incarceration or freedom in the community where they kill and injure innocent people.

No, the jury could have found him insane and he would have been incarcerated. They were told that, but chose to believe he was sane.

 

[Betty P]

No, the jury could have found him insane and he would have been incarcerated. They were told that, but chose to believe he was sane.

If he were found insane, what type of incarceration were they referring to? Would he have been eligible for parole? Would a doctor have been able to authorize his release by stating "he's taking his medication now, he will be ok"? Apologies in advance because I didn't follow this part of his story.

 

[Betty P]

Here's a copy of a drawing he made while in prison, celebrating the murders. Appalling. No remorse, even after being incarcerated and medicated. Mental illness didn't cause him to do this. He's also a violent racist pig. JMO

Other examples of him knowing his actions were wrong and that he was aware of what he was doing:

Reloading his weapon during the shooting
Escaping the crime scene when LE was called
Continuing to hide and evade LE after the murders


https://www.newschannel5.com/news/s...-shooting-show-reinking-knew-right-from-wrong

He might have been severely mentally ill, but he knew right from wrong.

2010 Tennessee Code :: Title 39 - Criminal Offenses :: Chapter 11 - General Provisions :: :: Part 5 - General Defenses :: :: 39-11-501 - Insanity.

• unable to appreciate the nature or wrongfulness of the defendant's acts.

• Mental disease or defect does not otherwise constitute a defense.

• The defendant has the burden of proving the defense of insanity by clear and convincing evidence.

Being unable to appreciate the nature or wrongfulness of a crime means doing things like NOT leaving the scene of the crime when LE arrives.