TN TN - Chloie Leverette, 9, & Gage Daniel, 7, Unionville, 23 Sept 2012

[Indy Anna]

Hmmm.....this is interesting. ATF is now involved.

http://www.t-g.com/story/1901901.html
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"The TBI said on Tuesday or Wednesday the ATF (Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco Firearms and Explosives) will be coming in to sift through the ashes" at the Kingdom Road home in which the children lived with their grandparents, Sheriff Randall Boyce said Monday.

 

[Crimson clover]

Crimson, I think I may be the one who messed up. Sorry. :blushing: I guess it was Chloie's dad who died, not Gage's. Gage's father has spoken out. And thank you to the poster (can't remember who it was) who pointed out that the children's mother has been pleading for Chloie and Gage on her FB page. I looked for her FB page the other day but think I used the wrong surname. I've found the correct one now.

The family dynamics in this case are very confusing. Maybe MSM is just as confused. They're probably waiting, too, to find out something definitive from LE about the forensic testing. Maybe in this case they're more concerned about following a story down the wrong trail?

Awe, Indy...its ok! I freaked upon your posting of my blunder, then verified...but, I don't care to call nobody out, especially when we all mull about in worry and confusion of these missing children. Like gum on the bottom of my shoe, I am that 'stuck' with Chloie and Gage's story. I pray so very much they hear OUR voices, feel OUR prayers.

Maybe tommorrow we'll know more. God bless Chloie. God bless Gage.

 

[KaylynnCouture]

I dont remember seeing this.. Either Im losing my memory or my eyesight.

http://www.wate.com/story/19670738/search-upgraded-to-amber-alert-for-two-middle-tenn-children

According to the AMBER Alert release, authorities believe the children may be with a male, though no description has been provided.

I don't remember seeing that either. That's a weird statement to be in an AA though. Usually statements like that are followed by a description, witness statement, something other than just the gender. I wonder what led police to include that. Why do they think that?

 

[GannyP]

Hmmm.....this is interesting. ATF is now involved.

http://www.t-g.com/story/1901901.html
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Well it is good to know that folks are keeping an eye out for the children. Even if one "sighting" was a mistake, it shows the public there cares.

 

[Kiln Wood]

I think they were abducted.

I keep thinking about Joseph Duncan III and hoping, hoping it isn't someone as sick as he is. But then I think about what sort of person would burn a house with two victims in it and I think I am hoping in vain.

BBM

To me, this would be someone who wants to send a message--a very powerful, negative message.....

 

[writer7]

I hope that means they have a lead! They could and we just don't know about it. I'd love it if the children didn't die in that fire and could be rescued.

 

[carbuff]

Does anyone have any gut instincts about what may have happened to these children?

To me, it smacks of revenge. Overkill.

 

[Indy Anna]

I was thinking this morning:

If the McClarans were in a dispute with anyone, all records of communication (on the McClarans end) with the person would've been destroyed in the fire. I hope family members and close friends of the couple have been questioned thoroughly as to any knowledge of a dispute.

If there was a dispute over the custody of the children and the object of the perp was to claim the children, there was likely no legal record of a custody battle since the McClarans were not the legal guardians. Do family members know of any other family members who objected to the McClarans having the children?

There could also have been a non-custody dispute between the McClarans and someone else. It could have been over money, land, any number of things. If the object of a perp was to kill the McClarans and cover up the murder via arson, the person may have had sympathy toward the children and spared their lives. But, knowing that the children are witnesses, the perp would keep them hidden away.

If a crime has occurred ... i.e., a murder, arson and abduction ... it is more likely that it was committed by someone known to the family, and this is a more hopeful scenario than a random targeting. While several family members have spoken with LE and some publicly, albeit briefly, if family and friends have suspicions about anyone, it is not something they would want to divulge publicly. There really isn't that much they can say until LE determines how the McClarans died and how the fire was started.

Until it is declared a murder, arson and kidnapping, family members can only speculate, and if a crime has truly been committed, speaking prematurely may only spook the perp to go deeper into hiding and the children will more difficult to locate. With this is mind, I think LE believes that a crime has been committed and someone known to the family is responsible.

 

[GateKeeper]

http://www.wkrn.com/story/19787204/missing-bedford-county-kids
Investigators again search rubble for Bedford kids' remains
Posted: Oct 10, 2012 1:37 PM PDT

SHELBYVILLE, Tenn. - With no credible leads on the whereabouts of two children missing following a house fire last month in Bedford County, investigators have returned to the scene of the fire to further look for evidence the children died in the blaze.

 

[GateKeeper]

http://www.wkrn.com/story/19787204/missing-bedford-county-kids

An official cause of death has also not been released for the McClarans.

 

[OceanEyes]

:bump:

for Gage and Chloie.
Just trying to keep their case on the first page, maybe more people will see it.

 

[GateKeeper]

http://www.t-g.com/story/1903644.html

Searchers find only a 'few bones' at fire scene

A few bones were found by a team of 10 to 12 agents from the federal Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives, Boyce said, but they were "unsure what the bones were." The ATF is a division of the U.S. Department of Treasury.

"They were packing up and leaving today," Boyce said.

No signs of the children have been found, leading the Tennessee Bureau of Investigation to issue a regional Amber Alert. The TBI at one point said the children were not in the home but has also said they have no leads or evidence they were anywhere else.

 

[GateKeeper]

So, where the heck ARE they????? :banghead:

 

[Indy Anna]

So, where the heck ARE they????? :banghead:

Sounds like they're saying the kids are neither here nor there. Well, if they weren't in the fire, they have to be somewhere. This case went nowhere real quick. Scary to think that LE is just throwing their hands in the air and giving up.

Have they checked all the surveillance cameras in the area? They need to get the children's pictures in the national media, too, in case they've been taken over state lines. I hope that LE does have some leads and are just not divulging anything publicly because doing so would not help find the children.

 

[GateKeeper]

I REALLY wanna know the grandparents cause of death. I feel like THAT may tell us alot. Of course it wont tell us where the lil ones are at,but it may show if Gma and Gpa were deceased before the fire...or due to the fire.
I still feel like someone has the kids...

Geez,this is the weirdest case.

 

[No Stone Unturned]

i wish they would hurry up and confirm whether or not the children were in the fire. More media coverage on this would good. And as long as the theory is that they perished in the fire, the media is not going to cover it.

 

[summer_breeze]

http://www.cbsatlanta.com/story/19645959/crews-now-searching-for-children-1st-thought-dead

Posted: Sep 26, 2012 1:15 PM EDT
Updated: Oct 11, 2012 10:07 PM EDT
Reported by Carley Gordon
Reported by Adrianne Flores

UNIONVILLE, TN (WSMV) -The Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives on Wednesday began assisting in the search for two missing Bedford County children.

 

[debirlfan]

i wish they would hurry up and confirm whether or not the children were in the fire. More media coverage on this would good. And as long as the theory is that they perished in the fire, the media is not going to cover it.

I'm starting to think it's being left "inconclusive" intentionally - hopefully the police know more than they're saying.

 

[carbuff]

Unfortunately I'm afraid it might be one of those cases where the truth is never known.

 

[GateKeeper]

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