TN TN - Disappearances in the Great Smokey Mountains

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Interesting that this will be my first post to this forum when it's a case that is long cold and probably rarely remembered, but I just got back from a vacation in the Smokies, and have thoughts.

I was reading about Trenny Gibson's disappearance the night before I walked the same trail to Andrew's Bald, so it was uppermost in my mind as I walked. She disappeared from the trail on a school trip and it was thought she either fell, wandered off or was abducted.

The abduction scenario is now on the bottom of my list after visiting the trial. It's a trail that begins and ends in the parking lot to Clingman's Dome, which is an extremely busy area. Now, I try to never dismiss an idea or get fixated on only one, as that leads to tunnel vision and makes me no use to any mystery. So an abduction COULD have happened, but I feel like it would have had to have happened in the parking lot, not on the trail, and it would have had to have been an impulsive snatch. After all, killers take vacations too. Trenny seemed a bit of a handful to raise, and very friendly. If a guy realized he could get her in his car easily, he might have gone for it. But having her schoolmates and teachers all around, and the fact that he would have then had to drive down miles of mountain roads at low speed makes that seem... really risky.

Being abducted from the trail itself seems impossible. The trail runs along the side of a steep mountain. If you step off the trail at all you are either immediately climbing steeply up, or you're sliding downwards. There are no even parts (except very close to the bald, but then it quickly gets steep again) and bushwacking off trail is very, very difficult. More so, I would imagine, if you're trying to drag a teenager along with you.

My gut feeling is that, because of the steepness of the trail, she somehow stepped off for some reason and then couldn't get back on. If she needed to go to the bathroom, or she wanted to smoke something, whatever. Your choice would be to go up or down, and statistics show most people go down. The problem is, once you start down, it's so steep that you could easily slip and just keep sliding. OR, even if you don't slide, once you get far enough off the trail, trying to get back up the slope TO the trail would be horrific. You would literally have to crawl up the slope, grabbing the trees with your hands to help lift you up. If you don't have much upper body strength, you'd very, very quickly get tired.

You could also easily slide down to the drainage at the bottom without hurting yourself too severely. Sound doesn't carry far there either. We couldn't hear other hikers on the trail until they were almost upon us. It just gets swallowed by the trees and the immensity of the area.

Once you're down in the drainage it would be difficult to impossible to climb back up again. And you'd be easily disoriented. The only thing you can see is the top of the trees above you. You cannot see any distance at all. You can't even see nearby hills. And the hills are endless. Once you started up the wrong slope toward open wilderness, you'd be done for.

I honestly think she deliberately stepped off the trail, slid down, got disoriented and walked away. Then she probably did what all the others before have done. She curled up in some little place to stay warm and died of exposure.

But who knows? It was such an intriguing mystery to think about as I hiked. I kept scanning the trail as if I might find signs of her, despite that fact that decades have passed since she disappeared. My mother and I both occasionally asked: "Where are you, Trenny?" while we hiked. It was sort of bittersweet.

Serial Killer Gary M. Hilton; DOB 22-NOV-1946 , would have been in his prime at 29 years old when Trenny Gibson vanished.. Imo, he was active for 4 decades when apprehended 01/04/2008 at the age of 61 years old. A baliff at the Dawson County Sheriff's department(GA) shared a story with me shortly after GMH's conviction for the abduction/murder/decapitation of Meredith Hope Emerson. He said that the guards at the jail asked GMH, "if you are so damn intelligent, why did you get caught"? GMH, responded, "y'all haven't caught me since I was 14 years old".. GMH shot his stepfather in Hialeah, FL at the age of 14 years old; the age that many, if not most sexual predators/serial killers cross the threshold from fantasy to dark reality. GMH was witnessed in the Clingman's dome area, many times by hikers. The Bryant's were abducted from Pisgah Nat forest(10/2007), not too far away.
northwind, the terrain in the area where MHE was abducted on the Byron Herbert Reece Access Trail/Neel's Gap/Blood Mtn., is very similar to that where Trenny vanished. MHE was initially assaulted on a switchback and fought GMH while sliding down a steep embankment to an old closed trail. Once she was brought into compliance after breaking her nose and blacking her eyes, her hands zip tied, and a rope leash placed around her neck. She was then led through the forest to the trailhead parking lot where she was secured to a large oak tree til dark, at which time she was chained in his van.. Tragic...

After 5 years, notorious crime still haunts | www.myajc.com
http://www.myajc.com/news/news/after-5-years-notorious-crime-still-haunts/nTyq3/
 
  • #122
Oh I just have a few things to add...first off, mountain lions weren't eradicated. They might have been rare, but I can remember as a little girl, this would have been about 1971 or 1972 we all were woke up in the middle of the night by what my mother thought was a crying baby. They thought someone had dumped an infant n the woods across from us. Other neighbors had woke up too, I can remember us all standing outside and the men getting lights and rifles to go look. It was a mountain lion and they all saw it but no one got a shot in.
This was at the foot of the appalacians.

The other thing is that Gary...Hilton probably killed how knows how many people in that area.
I don't know how OLD he was or how long he operated, but I ran into him one night at a small airport late at night and he was the only one there except a guy that was working and like, ok, until I tried to get directions from him, and it seemed like once he knew I was lost, he went psycho on me.
That's why I remembered him so well - he scared me so bad I ran to my truck and slammed the door with him coming after me. It scared me so bad, and my son who was in the truck.

Anyone that would get lost in the woods and ask that man for directions - he probably did murder them. No telling how long he killed people in the parks.

That is scary! Could you please describe how he went "psycho" on you? I can't help it, I am curious! I am glad that you followed your instinct to get outta there fast!

as i said mountian lions will allways be there there called the ghost for a reason...

Yes, skullaria, we will likely never know who, where, or how many unknown victims Gary Hilton, was responsible for. GMH, had a VFR Private Pilot's license.

I have been backtracking and researching GMH for 6+ years now. Ironically, within only a couple of days of backtracking him in the Dawson Forest wma/wildcat tract(Appalachian Mtns-GA), which began as a search for MHE's remains on 01/06/2008. Although GMH had been apprehended on 01/04/2008, MHE's remains had not been located. My initial description of him was that of a mountain lion, due to their similar traits. I have been hunting and exploring this area of north GA for decades, and due to their nocturnal nature, although I've heard their hair raising cries several times, I have only seen mountain lions twice. This was my description of GMH on 01/07/2008 due to the things that I was finding; 'GMH, possesses no human emotions... GMH, would hunt his prey, ambush & attack, 'capture, and then return his victims to his primary den(campsite), and terrorize them by performing torture & rituals'.

GMH would then devour his prey; 'mind, soul, and spirit'..as would a 'Mountain Lion'...
 
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  • #124
I also think Trenny's disappearance is very fascinating because there are so many theories about it, but I sadly think it is one that will remain unsolved. (Does anyone know by any chance the temp in the mountains the night she vanished?)
Not to be gross, but if she curled up and died of exposure, her remains may never be found because an animal could have eaten it or dragged it elsewhere.

Month?
 
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I have never known of a Jackal to be in this area.
 
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http://www.knoxnews.com/news/gosmokies/lost-smokies-mystery-surrounds-disappearances-over
The 58-year-old Melton of Jacksonville, Fla., was hiking near Deep Creek Campground on Sept. 25, 1981, with two friends when she went missing. Melton was familiar with the trail, having hiked it many times before, and was out ahead of her friends when she disappeared.

Coincidence?or Deja vu?

http://www.gainesvilletimes.com/archives/3320/


Local hiker had scary brush with Gary Hilton
Gainesville woman met Meredith Hope Emerson’s killer the day before Jan. 1/2008 kidnapping

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POSTED: February 21, 2008 5:01 a.m.
Nancy Linkesh will never know how close she came to being Gary Hilton's victim.

The 36-year-old Gainesville sales representative crossed paths with the suspected serial killer on the Byron Herbert Reece trail in Union County one day before he abducted Meredith Emerson there. The story of her encounter has made its rounds through cyberspace by way of a cautionary e-mail she wrote to a group of old friends.

Hilton, 61, was sentenced to life in prison after pleading guilty to Emerson's murder and remains a key suspect in the deaths of three others in North Carolina and Florida.

Linkesh said she never wanted or sought publicity for her encounter with Hilton, which was briefly mentioned by District Attorney Lee Darragh when Hilton pleaded guilty to Emerson's murder on Jan. 31/2008.

Darragh did not mention Linkesh by name, but spoke of Hilton, on the day before Emerson's kidnapping, "having approached another hiker ... she was with other people, however."

Linkesh and a group of four others embarked on a two-mile hike up the trail on Monday, Dec. 31, stopping near the top to have a midday lunch before heading back down. By the time they started the hike down, it was 3:30 p.m. and the temperature was dropping. Linkesh had not dressed warmly, so she took the hike down at a quicker pace, getting a few hundred yards ahead of her friends.
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I'm sure some of you have read about these cases already. Dennis Martin vanished in 1969, Trenny Gibson in 1976 and Pauline Melton in 1981. All were with other people at the time and just were out of sight for a moment, then apparently fell of the face of the earth. There is a book about this as well,called "Unsolved Disappearances in the Great SmokyMountains".

What are your thoughts?

Trenny Gibson: http://www.doenetwork.us/cases/425dftn.html

Pauline Melton: http://www.doenetwork.us/cases/483dftn.html

Dennis Martin: http://www.doenetwork.us/cases/460dmtn.html

Thanx Joellegirl, Ordered the book "Unsolved Disappearances in the Great SmokyMountains"... only two left @ Amazon..
Should be interesting..
 
  • #131
Trenny Lynn Gibson disappeared on Oct. 8, 1976, while on a field trip with Bearden High School. The 16-year-old and her classmates were hiking near Andrews Bald and Clingmans Dome. No one on the trip remembered seeing her after 3 p.m. that afternoon.
http://www.knoxnews.com/news/gosmokies/lost-smokies-mystery-surrounds-disappearances-over

October is so beautiful in the Smokies. The last time I was there was in October, late 90's. Ride through Pigeon Forge and everything is starting to change and the colors are more vibrant as you ride up into Gatlinburg. As we were driving to the top, it started to get darker and the colors were changing into gray, when we were almost to the top, it was snowing like crazy, sticking everywhere. We could make it to the top, to the parking lot but couldn't go down the other side into Cherokee, they wouldn't let us.
It's the time of year, weather could change on a dime, but I haven't seen where anyone talk of the changing weather when Trenny disappeared.
 
  • #132
Something that I just noticed. the thread title has a spelling error. It should be 'Smoky', not 'Smokey'. Took me forever to stop making that mistake myself and I live not far away. Could a mod correct it please?
 
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