Found Deceased TN - Evelyn Boswell, 15 months, Sullivan County, 26 DEC 2019 *MOM ARRESTED* #5

[hdo82]

DISCONNECTED . That's the word I've been racking my brain for to describe MB . All the posters on here seem more affected by this than she does .

I just woke to take care of my 2.5 year old and the first thought once I stood up was, what did they do to Evelyn. It truly is sad to know she isn't missed by her own mother. MB is truly a piece of , IMO.

 

[TrapperKeeper]

Nevermind. Reread the article the youngest daughter of AB would be about 5 now. Looks like she was born around 2015. Disregard previous.

 

[zenzen]

watching the court vid something about MB is just strange ... dissociative, like she really has no emotional stake in what is happening around her. Makes me wonder if she has had some kind of mental breakdown .
i am in no way suggesting she is innocent or honest but her lack of emotion feels quite different to other current POI's cases where missing children are involved.

 

[TrapperKeeper]

goodnight WS. Another night rolling around hoping there is justice for this baby and still hopeful that she is somewhere warm and asleep even though it’s not looking like that is the case. Hopefully one of these creatures grows a conscience or feels guilty or they turn on each other.
Glad an arrest was made today for the GS case and hope tomorrow will shed more light for Evelyn and all of the others who deserve an ending.

 

[PingTheRouter]

Nashville TN just got hit directly by a tornado just a few hours a go geez

looks like some bad storms for the entire area including where Evelyn was last seen it could hamper efforts to find her

i hope none of our local WS members and Evelyn followers were affected

 

[Mountain_Kat]

Hoping this isn't a repeat post:

Sheriff Cassidy: Some family members seem ‘aggravated’ with authorities during Evelyn search

Of course they are ! Because, hey, you know...all this LE attention is putting the kibash on "business as usual ".

MOO

 

[Mountain_Kat]

^
This. I am not letting MB off the hook, I want her to tell the truth about what happened, and my heart hurts way more for Evelyn, but I have empathy for MB. I can’t even begin to imagine the life she grew up in.

I suspect that when the whole story comes out, not one of us will feel empathy for MB.

Listen, MANY of us came from horrific families...dysfunction, substance addictions , emotional and physical abuse, etc. MOST of us don't lie and steal and "misplace " our children. At some point, we learn that our lives are a direct result of our own decisions and that playing the victim doesn't give us a get out of jail free card when we DO make rotten decisions. MB not only chose not to learn that lesson, she chooses to exploit her victimhood .

She plays people like a fiddle, imo. And the more people who dance to it, the louder she plays.

 

[Mckinseynana]

100% agree. MB's statements are disingenuous and by no means should she be given any slack. I think everyone agrees that she knows more than she is saying and it is in her best interest to lay it all out on the table.

That said, I too am curious about the "why". Not "why did this happen to EB" but "why is MB continuing down this path". Is she protecting someone else along with herself? If so, who...AB? If AB...why?

Today, when MB was escorted into the courtroom, she immediately looked into the gallery. She did this several times after taking her seat (between diverting her attention back to the judge). What some saw as a killer playing up to TV cameras, I saw as a child looking for the familiar faces of family. Much like a kid hitting their first homerun in little league and looking into the crowd for a parent after tagging homeplate. MB did not find those faces. She looked again and again and found no one. In that moment, she had to know she was alone. If she didn't know it (or didn't want to know it) during her entire disfunctional childhood, surely she knows it now.

Maybe that's the best thing that could happen right now. Maybe it forces her to move toward reality (unless she is otherwise incapable of doing so because of sociopathy). In that moment, any 18 year old with a "normal" functioning brain would realize that no one is going to swoop down and save them. That they have officially entered adulthood, where consequences truly exist. Where playing stupid games means winning stupid prizes.

Did MB realize that today? Did she realize that no one... not EP, HW, TBsr, TBjr or AB, not even her ever supportive Grandmother is going to help her? She is in this alone. For someone who is accustomed to living off of other people, using manipulation so others will provide for and sustain her existence... I imagine that could be an extreme "big girl panties" moment.

Or...instead of letting it affect her emotionally, she just tucked it away with a lifetime of other hurtful and disappointing moments. If that is the case, I expect she will continue on her current trajectory and we may never know what happened to EB.

Incredible post!!!!

 

[Mckinseynana]

I suspect that when the whole story comes out, not one of us will feel empathy for MB.

Listen, MANY of us came from horrific families...dysfunction, substance addictions , emotional and physical abuse, etc. MOST of us don't lie and steal and "misplace " our children. At some point, we learn that our lives are a direct result of our own decisions and that playing the victim doesn't give us a get out of jail free card when we DO make rotten decisions. MB not only chose not to learn that lesson, she chooses to exploit her victimhood .

She plays people like a fiddle, imo. And the more people who dance to it, the louder she plays.

Very well stated! There’s definitely a maturity level lower than I would expect, but I still can’t put my finger on the mentality level yet!

 

[Mountain_Kat]

Very well stated! There’s definitely a maturity level lower than I would expect, but I still can’t put my finger on the mentality level yet!

I started to share my own personal story of growing up with two very dysfunctional alcoholic parents , but decided not to waste the space.

I do wonder how many of us are confusing clever manipulation with immaturity, though. AB plays the victim when her decisions result in something she doesn't like (her situation with all of her children for example) and MB does the same. Is it learned behavior, yes ? And it's reinforced by every single friend and family member who buys into it. The manipulation is a goldmine for never having to accept responsibility for the choices you make.

I see it for exactly what it is, because I've been there done that in my own life (though many many lifetimes ago).

All just MOO, of course.

 

[Mountain_Kat]

100% agree. MB's statements are disingenuous and by no means should she be given any slack. I think everyone agrees that she knows more than she is saying and it is in her best interest to lay it all out on the table.

That said, I too am curious about the "why". Not "why did this happen to EB" but "why is MB continuing down this path". Is she protecting someone else along with herself? If so, who...AB? If AB...why?

Today, when MB was escorted into the courtroom, she immediately looked into the gallery. She did this several times after taking her seat (between diverting her attention back to the judge). What some saw as a killer playing up to TV cameras, I saw as a child looking for the familiar faces of family. Much like a kid hitting their first homerun in little league and looking into the crowd for a parent after tagging homeplate. MB did not find those faces. She looked again and again and found no one. In that moment, she had to know she was alone. If she didn't know it (or didn't want to know it) during her entire disfunctional childhood, surely she knows it now.

Maybe that's the best thing that could happen right now. Maybe it forces her to move toward reality (unless she is otherwise incapable of doing so because of sociopathy). In that moment, any 18 year old with a "normal" functioning brain would realize that no one is going to swoop down and save them. That they have officially entered adulthood, where consequences truly exist. Where playing stupid games means winning stupid prizes.

Did MB realize that today? Did she realize that no one... not EP, HW, TBsr, TBjr or AB, not even her ever supportive Grandmother is going to help her? She is in this alone. For someone who is accustomed to living off of other people, using manipulation so others will provide for and sustain her existence... I imagine that could be an extreme "big girl panties" moment.

Or...instead of letting it affect her emotionally, she just tucked it away with a lifetime of other hurtful and disappointing moments. If that is the case, I expect she will continue on her current trajectory and we may never know what happened to EB.

Some truly thoughtful first posts from you, TN Hiker ! Welcome to WS ! I look forward to reading more from you .

 

[Mountain_Kat]

Last post from me this morning (and I would have condensed all these posts into 1 post, btw, but for my own laziness. )

Local weather update (for reference in case of any possible searches): 43 degrees, rain, thunder and lightening.

Jailed mother of missing Amber Alert child wants to be released, requested bond reduction (this article mentions another local case, that of Joe Clyde Daniels. Interesting case. )

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[Mckinseynana]

I started to share my own personal story of growing up with two very dysfunctional alcoholic parents , but decided not to waste the space.

I do wonder how many of us are confusing clever manipulation with immaturity, though. AB plays the victim when her decisions result in something she doesn't like (her situation with all of her children for example) and MB does the same. Is it learned behavior, yes ? And it's reinforced by every single friend and family member who buys into it. The manipulation is a goldmine for never having to accept responsibility for the choices you make.

I see it for exactly what it is, because I've been there done that in my own life (though many many lifetimes ago).

All just MOO, of course.

Great perspective!!

 

[ardean]

Nashville TN just got hit directly by a tornado just a few hours a go geez

looks like some bad storms for the entire area including where Evelyn was last seen it could hamper efforts to find her

i hope none of our local WS members and Evelyn followers were affected

I was woken up by thunder and instantly had Garth Brooks singing Thunder Rolls in my head. I hope today is the breakthrough day in this case. Not a good day for searching but a great day for confessions from Evelyn's family.

 

[Mckinseynana]

Some truly thoughtful first posts from you, TN Hiker ! Welcome to WS ! I look forward to reading more from you .

I agree!!!!

 

[hdo82]

The one thing I wonder is was MB trying to get pregnant on purpose. New guy, so gotta lock him down with his OWN child.
OMG the things going through my head, it took me almost 2 hours to get back to sleep last night.
Why else would she say she was pregnant, keep the bf from running after all this came out and he wanted to wash his hands of her?

 

[TN Hiker]

The one thing I wonder is was MB trying to get pregnant on purpose. New guy, so gotta lock him down with his OWN child.
OMG the things going through my head, it took me almost 2 hours to get back to sleep last night.
Why else would she say she was pregnant, keep the bf from running after all this came out and he wanted to wash his hands of her?

Agreed. The pregnancy claim was quite telling because the benefits (in MB's mind) were two fold. First, further solidify the connection with HW. Second, give the appearance that she is innocent by volunteering to take a lie detector test only to then state she couldn't take one "due to policy". That was a calculated move to distance herself from consequences associated with her actions. In addition, MB decided to use a BIG excuse to avoid a lie detector test. IMO, that is quite telling as well.

When I think back to my teenage years, there were times when I utilized deception to avoid consequences. Clearly not at the level of MB, by the way. Normal teenage girl choices. I recall the way I responded when confronted with questions about my actions. A few specific situations come to the forefront of my mind and my adult brain is able to see how ridiculous my excuses were. The bigger the offense, the bigger the excuse.

When that same logic is applies to MB, it seems similar. MB committed and/or participated in a BIG wrongdoing. Her BIG excuses/lies imply that she is fully aware of the seriousness and gravity of the situation.

Just my opinion.

 

[hdo82]

Agreed. The pregnancy claim was quite telling because the benefits (in MB's mind) were two fold. First, further solidify the connection with HW. Second, give the appearance that she is innocent by volunteering to take a lie detector test only to then state she couldn't take one "due to policy". That was a calculated move to distance herself from consequences associated with her actions. In addition, MB decided to use a BIG excuse to avoid a lie detector test. IMO, that is quite telling as well.

When I think back to my teenage years, there were times when I utilized deception to avoid consequences. Clearly not at the level of MB, by the way. Normal teenage girl choices. I recall the way I responded when confronted with questions about my actions. A few specific situations come to the forefront of my mind and my adult brain is able to see how ridiculous my excuses were. The bigger the offense, the bigger the excuse.

When that same logic is applies to MB, it seems similar. MB committed and/or participated in a BIG wrongdoing. Her BIG excuses/lies imply that she is fully aware of the seriousness and gravity of the situation.

Just my opinion.

My mind just went to, I took the life of my child so now I have to get pregnant again and it will cancel that out.
I am not going to get into how her childhood has affected her mental state and ability to reason because I am not a Dr. But IMO this girl definitely has some issues due to nurture and not nature.
All the while we talk, WHERE is Evelyn????

 

[Meredith28]

Welcome to WS, @TN Hiker !

There have been a lot of great posts and discussion about poor EB's case. As for me, I think I have decided that I'm far too confused by everything that has happened thus far to make any sense or have an explanation for it. Like many of you, I'm hoping that some people start talking and that the words coming out of their mouth become the truth.

I was telling my mom about this case this morning, and she shared a story with me from when I was small, one that I wouldn't necessarily have remembered in the town where I grew up. I'll link it here. The article is really just the follow up to what happened after the crime, but you'll notice the mention of postpartum depression (PPD) at the beginning of the article. I absolutely do not believe the PPD would excuse a crime of this nature, but wondered if anyone here has thought that maybe MB suffered from PPD? I don't know a lot about it, so please forgive me if this comes off as an offensive question to ask:

WOMAN COMMITTED IN DROWNING OF BABY SEEKS HOSPITAL PASS

ETA, BBM: Another article reads "Despite hypnosis and years of psychiatric treatment, March has been unable to remember putting Shawna into the river. Doctors diagnosed her as having a single occurrence of major depressive disorder, along with a dissociative episode, that led to her daughter's death." MOM WHO KILLED INFANT FREED FROM STATE CARE

 

[justaparent]

I watched the hearing video a couple of times yesterday.

I did not think she was smirking. MB appeared more nervous to me than anything, and seemed to be looking around to see who was there. I agree with the other member who questioned if perhaps she was trying to see if anyone was there to support her. Evidently they were not. Big surprise and a continuation of the constant mindset of ‘throw away people’ in this “family.”

I do think she harmed EB (or knows exactly who did) and I certainly don’t excuse her for any of her actions, including the constant lies, but yesterday she seemed like someone who was lost and out of her element. Maybe it was an act, who knows.

You have to wonder what kind of life MB (and then EB) might have had if she had not been born into such a dysfunctional group of people. It definitely seems like a large group and makes me wonder how long and in what numbers neglect has been their way of life.

JMO