Found Deceased TN - Evelyn Boswell, 15 months, Sullivan County, 26 DEC 2019 *MOM ARRESTED* #5

[hdo82]

I remember reading a thought from someone that AB may have been coaching MB during interviews and what to say. I wonder if AB not coming to support MB yesteday afternoon had a huge impact on her and that could help push MB into talking more openely with LE?

 

[Mountain_Kat]

I watched the hearing video a couple of times yesterday.

I did not think she was smirking. MB appeared more nervous to me than anything, and seemed to be looking around to see who was there. I agree with the other member who questioned if perhaps she was trying to see if anyone was there to support her. Evidently they were not. Big surprise and a continuation of the constant mindset of ‘throw away people’ in this “family.”

I do think she harmed EB (or knows exactly who did) and I certainly don’t excuse her for any of her actions, including the constant lies, but yesterday she seemed like someone who was lost and out of her element. Maybe it was an act, who knows.

You have to wonder what kind of life MB (and then EB) might have had if she had not been born into such a dysfunctional group of people. It definitely seems like a large group and makes me wonder how long and in what numbers neglect has been their way of life.

JMO

She was checking to see who her audience was, imo. Classic move for an amateur manipulator. I bet AB doesn't make those kinds of mistakes.

JMO

 

[Mountain_Kat]

At about the 2:38 mark in this video, watch how she slips up and mentally double checks herself on the "she picked me up Wed. " statement. She's attempting to manipulate her audience here to, and makes an amateur mistake. Overplaying her hand. Or rather, thinking that she might have overplayed her hand. IMO, of course. I'm not a psychologist, though I do sometimes play one of WS.

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[hdo82]

At about the 2:38 mark in this video, watch how she slips up and mentally double checks herself on the "she picked me up Wed. " statement. She's attempting to manipulate her audience here to, and makes an amateur mistake. IMO, of course. I'm not a psychologist, though I do sometimes play one of WS.

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I see it... She had a momentary oh crap and then the yup i got the lie right...
God it makes me madder than hell every time I see one of these videos and the complete lack of real emotion....

 

[Mountain_Kat]

I see it... She had a momentary oh crap and then the yup i got the lie right...
God it makes me madder than hell every time I see one of these videos and the complete lack of real emotion....

And when she is asked something she knows her audience expects her to be tearful about, she cries. Real tears, sure...but watch how she follows these episodes with dropping her chin and looking up at the interviewer with big doe eyes. " See, I'm just an innocent kid too, and my mommy threatened me."

Also, she doesn't say a word to reporters when they try to spring an interview on her. But when she can control the when and where...blab blab blab, play to the audience, blab blab blab.

Manipulation.

MOO

 

[justaparent]

There’s no love between MB and her mother. What mom would not immediately get someone to drive her to where EB is believed to be? Or go straight to law-enforcement and tell them that your mother has abducted your child — immediately after it happened? She knows that AB cannot be trusted.

MB may have some feelings for EB but it doesn’t appear that she loves her, or ever really bonded with her.

Even if a little body is found they will likely spin the “silver trailer” story.

If no one talks they will all walk

JMO

 

[Yazzyy]

Interesting investigators mention Joe Clyde Daniels, long missing child, and now are trying to compare cases.

"Investigators are still no closer to finding Boswell's daughter. Those close to the case now compare it with another involving a long missing child -- that of Joe Clyde Daniels.

They say the plight of these two missing children is eerily similar. Yes, of course, there are differences."

 

[Mckinseynana]

Agreed. The pregnancy claim was quite telling because the benefits (in MB's mind) were two fold. First, further solidify the connection with HW. Second, give the appearance that she is innocent by volunteering to take a lie detector test only to then state she couldn't take one "due to policy". That was a calculated move to distance herself from consequences associated with her actions. In addition, MB decided to use a BIG excuse to avoid a lie detector test. IMO, that is quite telling as well.

When I think back to my teenage years, there were times when I utilized deception to avoid consequences. Clearly not at the level of MB, by the way. Normal teenage girl choices. I recall the way I responded when confronted with questions about my actions. A few specific situations come to the forefront of my mind and my adult brain is able to see how ridiculous my excuses were. The bigger the offense, the bigger the excuse.

When that same logic is applies to MB, it seems similar. MB committed and/or participated in a BIG wrongdoing. Her BIG excuses/lies imply that she is fully aware of the seriousness and gravity of the situation.

Just my opinion.

Now I tend to think Mountain Kat hit it! What I was looking at I thought was immaturity, it was actually manipulation. Either out of experience or mechanisms to cope!

 

[Yazzyy]

Innocent until proven guilty, HOWEVER, it doesn't look too good for her. She is not going to out smart the police on this one. Her lack of empathy and concern for her child was apparent and her incompetence in not reporting to the police is also a red flag. IF she is found guilty of murdering her child, LIFE IN PRISON will be good for her. That way she can experience how other prisoners treat child murderers. I'll gladly allow my tax money to keeping her in a cell for decades if she lasts that long.

 

[Yazzyy]

Sad how this keeps occurring to innocent children. We just start to heal over the traumatic case of Faye Swetlik being strangled by her neighbor Coty Taylor and then we have to deal with another individual who may or may not have psychopathy, or at the least is a sociopath.

 

[ChopperRN]

The more I think on this the more it’s clear that MB is using her “I didn’t get enough hugs” mentality to manipulate vs doing what’s right for Evelyn. I can’t watch videos of her speaking. She grates my nerves. I was thinking her fear of her monster mother was causing this but now I know in my heart she’s as cold, manipulating and soulless as her baby making momma!!!! YUCK!!!

Everyday that passes without anything on little Evelyn is heartbreaking

 

[Woodland]

100% agree. MB's statements are disingenuous and by no means should she be given any slack. I think everyone agrees that she knows more than she is saying and it is in her best interest to lay it all out on the table.

That said, I too am curious about the "why". Not "why did this happen to EB" but "why is MB continuing down this path". Is she protecting someone else along with herself? If so, who...AB? If AB...why?

Today, when MB was escorted into the courtroom, she immediately looked into the gallery. She did this several times after taking her seat (between diverting her attention back to the judge). What some saw as a killer playing up to TV cameras, I saw as a child looking for the familiar faces of family. Much like a kid hitting their first homerun in little league and looking into the crowd for a parent after tagging homeplate. MB did not find those faces. She looked again and again and found no one. In that moment, she had to know she was alone. If she didn't know it (or didn't want to know it) during her entire disfunctional childhood, surely she knows it now.

Maybe that's the best thing that could happen right now. Maybe it forces her to move toward reality (unless she is otherwise incapable of doing so because of sociopathy). In that moment, any 18 year old with a "normal" functioning brain would realize that no one is going to swoop down and save them. That they have officially entered adulthood, where consequences truly exist. Where playing stupid games means winning stupid prizes.

Did MB realize that today? Did she realize that no one... not EP, HW, TBsr, TBjr or AB, not even her ever supportive Grandmother is going to help her? She is in this alone. For someone who is accustomed to living off of other people, using manipulation so others will provide for and sustain her existence... I imagine that could be an extreme "big girl panties" moment.

Or...instead of letting it affect her emotionally, she just tucked it away with a lifetime of other hurtful and disappointing moments. If that is the case, I expect she will continue on her current trajectory and we may never know what happened to EB.

Thank-you TN Hiker for joining and weighing in with your wisdom. You have a talent to say so much in a few words.

Imo, the best thing now is for someone to show MB your 4 posts (to date). This is what she needs to hear and how she needs to hear it, to possibly/hopefully push her into doing the right thing.

Well done.

 

[hdo82]

The more I think on this the more it’s clear that MB is using her “I didn’t get enough hugs” mentality to manipulate vs doing what’s right for Evelyn. I can’t watch videos of her speaking. She grates my nerves. I was thinking her fear of her monster mother was causing this but now I know in my heart she’s as cold, manipulating and soulless as her baby making momma!!!! YUCK!!!

Everyday that passes without anything on little Evelyn is heartbreaking

All I can say this morning is that MB knows right from wrong. This rainy day doesn't help the mood....
God knows the truth, she can't lie to HIM!

 

[Daisyeve]

I see it... She had a momentary oh crap and then the yup i got the lie right...
God it makes me madder than hell every time I see one of these videos and the complete lack of real emotion....

I have also wondered about her flat affect and lack of emotion and maybe compartmentalizing situations/feelings. I always wondered why my sister seemed to have this flat affect and strange behaviors and couldn’t even carry on a normal conversation. And then I finally found out how she was severely physically, mentally, emotionally abused by her malignant narc sociopath husband for years. Battered woman syndrome and that is what MB ‘s personality reminds me of. My sister was terrified of being killed or her only child being killed because of threats and wouldn’t tell anybody anything about the abuse happening to her and her child and kept all inside because she was under the control of her worse than horrible husband. Not saying this is what MB had in her life but see so many similar traits. If MB’s actions are related to past abuse I hope she will feel safe enough in jail and away from threats to tell what happened to her daughter and accept the consequences and perhaps get therapeutic help if available. (Have to add that my sister has brain damage from the frequent batterings she endured for so many years).

 

[Yazzyy]

Does anyone have a link to

At about the 2:38 mark in this video, watch how she slips up and mentally double checks herself on the "she picked me up Wed. " statement. She's attempting to manipulate her audience here to, and makes an amateur mistake. Overplaying her hand. Or rather, thinking that she might have overplayed her hand. IMO, of course. I'm not a psychologist, though I do sometimes play one of WS.

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Nice post, thanks

MB=Crocodile tears.

 

[TN Hiker]

Thank-you TN Hiker for joining and weighing in with your wisdom. You have a talent to say so much in a few words.

Imo, the best thing now is for someone to show MB your 4 posts (to date). This is what she needs to hear and how she needs to hear it, to possibly/hopefully push her into doing the right thing.

Well done.

Thank you for the kind words. I am grateful to have stumbled upon a forum which encourages honest dialogue and expression of opinions/musings. I know I'm in good company when I say the convoluted mess of data which has been swirling around in my mind over the past two weeks needed to be released. I appreciate WSers willingness to help me work through some of these thoughts.

I don't know what happened to EB but I know, just as all of you do, that MB was involved. Pondering over MB's mindset may provide an opportunity to see something previously overlooked. Or, it may not... but I'd like to try because progress has stalled, the next court date isn't until May and I'd much rather spend that time exploring theories than sitting on pins and needles.

So, circling back, there is another part of this I've been wondering about. Perhaps someone here can offer insight...

MB was living in the trailer belonging to her brother, TBjr. It has been reported that she moved out/was evicted at some point around Oct/Nov (since the new tenant stated they moved in "a few months ago"). Here's my question. Why did she leave? Did she choose to leave? Was she evicted? If she chose to leave...why?

As I understand it, that was around the same time she listed her vehicle for sale (based on the October Marketplace posting date provided by another WSer). Does that vehicle listing indicate some sort of financial trouble (maybe struggling to make the payments)? Surely she didn't list it because of mechanical issues. It was new...ish (MB provided purchase date of Feb 2019) and it had less than 13,000 miles.

If the vehicle listing was due to financial troubles, why would she then choose to move out of a residence owned by her brother? Though her family was dysfunctional, it is difficult for me to believe TBjr would evict his sister and baby niece if MB was unable to pay her rent?

What prompted the move? What am I missing?

 

[Mckinseynana]

I have also wondered about her flat affect and lack of emotion and maybe compartmentalizing situations/feelings. I always wondered why my sister seemed to have this flat affect and strange behaviors and couldn’t even carry on a normal conversation. And then I finally found out how she was severely physically, mentally, emotionally abused by her malignant narc sociopath husband for years. Battered woman syndrome and that is what MB ‘s personality reminds me of. My sister was terrified of being killed or her only child being killed because of threats and wouldn’t tell anybody anything about the abuse happening to her and her child and kept all inside because she was under the control of her worse than horrible husband. Not saying this is what MB had in her life but see so many similar traits. If MB’s actions are related to past abuse I hope she will feel safe enough in jail and away from threats to tell what happened to her daughter and accept the consequences and perhaps get therapeutic help if available. (Have to add that my sister has brain damage from the frequent batterings she endured for so many years).

Thank you for sharing, I am so sorry that your sister had to endure such pain through the years!

 

[hdo82]

I have also wondered about her flat affect and lack of emotion and maybe compartmentalizing situations/feelings. I always wondered why my sister seemed to have this flat affect and strange behaviors and couldn’t even carry on a normal conversation. And then I finally found out how she was severely physically, mentally, emotionally abused by her malignant narc sociopath husband for years. Battered woman syndrome and that is what MB ‘s personality reminds me of. My sister was terrified of being killed or her only child being killed because of threats and wouldn’t tell anybody anything about the abuse happening to her and her child and kept all inside because she was under the control of her worse than horrible husband. Not saying this is what MB had in her life but see so many similar traits. If MB’s actions are related to past abuse I hope she will feel safe enough in jail and away from threats to tell what happened to her daughter and accept the consequences and perhaps get therapeutic help if available. (Have to add that my sister has brain damage from the frequent batterings she endured for so many years).

I wonder if the court appointed refers her for a mental health evaluation? I am not sure what they offer or don't.
Too bad they don't offer truth serum

 

[ChopperRN]

All I can say this morning is that MB knows right from wrong. This rainy day doesn't help the mood....
God knows the truth, she can't lie to HIM!

Absolutely. I find it so annoying how she acts like it should be up to TBI to go get Evelyn whatever they claim she is! Why isn’t she speeding down the highway to go pick up her little girl (before she was jailed)

 

[Juber]

Thank you for the kind words. I am grateful to have stumbled upon a forum which encourages honest dialogue and expression of opinions/musings. I know I'm in good company when I say the convoluted mess of data which has been swirling around in my mind over the past two weeks needed to be released. I appreciate WSers willingness to help me work through some of these thoughts.

I don't know what happened to EB but I know, just as all of you do, that MB was involved. Pondering over MB's mindset may provide an opportunity to see something previously overlooked. Or, it may not... but I'd like to try because progress has stalled, the next court date isn't until May and I'd much rather spend that time exploring theories than sitting on pins and needles.

So, circling back, there is another part of this I've been wondering about. Perhaps someone here can offer insight...

MB was living in the trailer belonging to her brother, TBjr. It has been reported that she moved out/was evicted at some point around Oct/Nov (since the new tenant stated they moved in "a few months ago"). Here's my question. Why did she leave? Did she choose to leave? Was she evicted? If she chose to leave...why?

As I understand it, that was around the same time she listed her vehicle for sale (based on the October Marketplace posting date provided by another WSer). Does that vehicle listing indicate some sort of financial trouble (maybe struggling to make the payments)? Surely she didn't list it because of mechanical issues. It was new...ish (MB provided purchase date of Feb 2019) and it had less than 13,000 miles.

If the vehicle listing was due to financial troubles, why would she then choose to move out of a residence owned by her brother? Though her family was dysfunctional, it is difficult for me to believe TBjr would evict his sister and baby niece if MB was unable to pay her rent?

What prompted the move? What am I missing?

Where she moved may help understand why she moved. I am sure I have overlooked, but where did she move?