TN - Gail Nowacki Palmgren,44, Signal Mountain, 30 April, 2011 - #11

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  • #501
Just color me clueless, but what is a hands free device?

Edit..... Also how would someone have knowledge of this unless they were with her when she left SM...And IF someone was with her I doubt they're gonna tell...JMHO..

Hand free devices such as ones found here:
http://www.handsfree.com/wireless_headsets.htm

They ping differently than a cell, and also have a different trace.

Does anyone know if Gail was actually using her cell itself when she made calls from her cell on the way to and from SM? Or did she use an additional connective device such as bluetooth? TIA.
 
  • #502
Oriah, Did you see my edit to post # 498 ?
 
  • #503
Hand free devices such as ones found here:
http://www.handsfree.com/wireless_headsets.htm

They ping differently than a cell, and also have a different trace.

Does anyone know if Gail was actually using her cell itself when she made calls from her cell on the way to and from SM? Or did she use an additional connective device such as bluetooth?



LOL.. Guess you can tell I don't have and don't know too much about cell phones..
 
  • #504
Just color me clueless, but what is a hands free device?

Edit..... Also how would someone have knowledge of this unless they were with her when she left SM...And IF someone was with her I doubt they're gonna tell...JMHO..

Bluetooth. A piece that goes into the ear.
 
  • #505
LOL.. Guess you can tell I don't have and don't know too much about cell phones..

No worries, lol.
Frankly, they are nothing but a headache for me at this point!
 
  • #506
Hand free devices such as ones found here:
http://www.handsfree.com/wireless_headsets.htm

They ping differently than a cell, and also have a different trace.

Does anyone know if Gail was actually using her cell itself when she made calls from her cell on the way to and from SM? Or did she use an additional connective device such as bluetooth? TIA.

I can't confirm that she had one, but it does seem likely. Not sure what the laws in TN / AL are, but here in CA it is illegal to use your cell phone while driving unless you're using a hands free device like a Bluetooth. I often turn my Bluetooth on and put it in my ear before getting in my car to go somewhere, in case I receive a call or need to make one while driving. It's safer than holding your cell phone to your ear while driving one-handed, and Gail seems like a safety-conscious person. :twocents:

ETA it would be nice to hear from an insider if Gail had a hands free device and used it regularly...
 
  • #507
Could LE think AD may be compromising their efforts? In other words, they could be trying to find evidence of a crime, but to them, she keeps on compromising the case. We don't know what is going on behind the scenes. They may be doing more than we think. Perhaps, they are just not publicizing anything yet, until they have something solid.


I am sure there is more going on with LE that we know. The reason for not saying anything to the public is because it could compromise the investigative work they are doing. With emotions running so high in this case it no longer surprises me that LE is keeping EVERYTHING quiet. They have already had to warn someone to ease up for compromising the investigation early on.
 
  • #508
Just spoke with my friend and information given to me was the area wasn't flooded.. Houses were damaged, trees and power lines down everywhere on Cummings Hwy and Brownsferry Road but they didn't have a problem with flooding...

ETA.. Power wasn't restored until almost a week later at my friends home That area was hit hard so I suspect many did not have power...

ThoughtFox, if/when you have the chance, would you mind weighing in on this? Thank you so much. I have verified what power lines were down but still trying to figure out exactly what water accesses were washed out.

Thanks again- Oriah
 
  • #509
Thanks mayqueen.
Not illegal, but seems like it might be likely that Gail had one?
And YES it would be nice to hear from a friend/local if Gail was in the habit of using one!



I can't confirm that she had one, but it does seem likely. Not sure what the laws in TN / AL are, but here in CA it is illegal to use your cell phone while driving unless you're using a hands free device like a Bluetooth. I often turn my Bluetooth on and put it in my ear before getting in my car to go somewhere, in case I receive a call or need to make one while driving. It's safer than holding your cell phone to your ear while driving one-handed, and Gail seems like a safety-conscious person. :twocents:

ETA it would be nice to hear from an insider if Gail had a hands free device and used it regularly...
 
  • #510
I really wish we had a video of Gail to show her walk, how she holds her head, her posture, etc. It would be so helpful to people looking for her. Any friends here that could upload...even a piece of video with Gail? TIA
 
  • #511
Prayers for Gail and her children... The truth needs to be revealed as to what has really happened to her.. In reference to myself, I fully suspect foul play since she has vanished without a trace and has been missing now for almost five months...
IMO the person/s responsible for her disappearance need to be brought to justice...JMHO
 
  • #512
*snipped*
Then of course there are 'shredder' programs which obliviate files as they delete them. If those are used, the info is pretty much gone.

All that is of course as a general user.. and FBI agent can probably get more than your average Joe.

Which is exactly why those computers should have gone to police/FBI and not some lawyers. :(
 
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Not to change the subject, but I'm back on Gails' phone currently. The historical data from tower triangulation is stored- and now I am getting all ocd about the GPS chipsets in the Jeep and the Blackberry.

You can run, but you can't hide from technology.

Gail, where are you honey?
 
  • #515
I'd like to hear from LE if there's been any activity on her DMV - license, registration or insurance. The also have her VIN# etc... or has it been inactive since she's gone missing?

Not that their likely to tell anyone, just sayin.
 
  • #516
Not to change the subject, but I'm back on Gails' phone currently. The historical data from tower triangulation is stored- and now I am getting all ocd about the GPS chipsets in the Jeep and the Blackberry.

You can run, but you can't hide from technology.

Gail, where are you honey?

You Are Amazing.
 
  • #517
I'd like to hear from LE if there's been any activity on her DMV - license, registration or insurance. The also have her VIN# etc... or has it been inactive since she's gone missing?

Not that their likely to tell anyone, just sayin.

Your question reminded me of something I was thinking about today. If LE truly believes that Gail is just a missing person, who may have left on her own, why would they be so quiet about the information they do have? I know that people have a right to leave and have privacy and there's really nothing anyone can do about that, but would it be normal for them to keep so much information from the public? I keep hearing people say that LE surely knows much more than what they are telling, and people don't have the right to know everything but my question is why would they do that? Wouldn't keeping everything under wraps and hush-hush be what they would do in a case where they did suspect foul play and wanted to keep an upper hand with the evidence to develop a criminal case? Would even the theories of an accident or suicide warrant such tight wraps around information. I am wondering if anyone has an opinion about LE actions from following other cases where people just left on their own versus mysterious disappearances where LE suspects foul play. Especially considering most of the information regarding Gail's disappearance has come from other sources and not LE. When you look back at what is known, it seems to me that very little information has come directly from LE. Just something I was pondering today.
 
  • #518
What happened to the rest of these sightings? There was Carol and Big Fork/Insurance Bluff, and there was a rumor about a hardware store sighting. That would leave 18 other sightings. Eighteen!! What were they? Where were they?

This is from May 20:

Authorities have received as many as 20 tips from people stating they have seen 44-year-old Gail Palmgren or her 2010 red Jeep Rubicon since she went missing April 30.

http://timesfreepress.com/news/2011/may/20/palmgren-search-takes-investigators-alabama/
 
  • #519
What happened to the rest of these sightings? There was Carol and Big Fork/Insurance Bluff, and there was a rumor about a hardware store sighting. That would leave 18 other sightings. Eighteen!! What were they? Where were they?

This is from May 20:

Authorities have received as many as 20 tips from people stating they have seen 44-year-old Gail Palmgren or her 2010 red Jeep Rubicon since she went missing April 30.

http://timesfreepress.com/news/2011/may/20/palmgren-search-takes-investigators-alabama/
Iirc the cc sighting came after may 20th and the Ace hardware store sighting was stated on FB. We really do not know what 20 tips LE got. I have just assumed it was sightings of Gails crimson jeep, although none of those could be verified.
Its a shame that LE has had so few tips to follow- up on. Some would think they would have hundreds if not a thousand calls/ tips/ leads to investigate.
 
  • #520
Your question reminded me of something I was thinking about today. If LE truly believes that Gail is just a missing person, who may have left on her own, why would they be so quiet about the information they do have? I know that people have a right to leave and have privacy and there's really nothing anyone can do about that, but would it be normal for them to keep so much information from the public? I keep hearing people say that LE surely knows much more than what they are telling, and people don't have the right to know everything but my question is why would they do that? Wouldn't keeping everything under wraps and hush-hush be what they would do in a case where they did suspect foul play and wanted to keep an upper hand with the evidence to develop a criminal case? Would even the theories of an accident or suicide warrant such tight wraps around information. I am wondering if anyone has an opinion about LE actions from following other cases where people just left on their own versus mysterious disappearances where LE suspects foul play. Especially considering most of the information regarding Gail's disappearance has come from other sources and not LE. When you look back at what is known, it seems to me that very little information has come directly from LE. Just something I was pondering today.

When I live in TN one of my neighbors shot a gun off in my side yard at 10:15pm and scared my mom and kids half to death. The cops were all over the place, but when I questioned LE about the incident that took place on my property I was told they couldn't release any information to me nor tell me who was involved. They wouldn't even tell me if my family was in danger or if the situation had been resolved. I got what information I got from my neighbors who saw the incident take place, but LE refused to tell me anything. LE in TN won't tell you anything. I learned that the hard way. Just food for thought.
 
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