TN - Gail Nowacki Palmgren, 44, Signal Mountain, 30 April 2011 - #8

[Emeralgem]

Oh my goodness, lol.

I really appreciate everyones input.

And I think developers need to stop naming things James!

BBM..Me too especially IF it doesn't even exist or they haven't even developed it yet...JMHO

 

[Oriah]

BBM..Me too especially IF they haven't even developed it yet...JMHO

Emeralgem, that makes me think of something else- housing construction on SM. And demolition contractors.

Now I am off on another pursuit of info!

 

[Pearl*]

Okay.... I sent search party #2. There is a narrow dirt path/road, just wide enough for one car to drive into the woods. No room to pass; looks much like a dirt driveway. No street marker, and it's closer to Westwood than Stratford Way. That HAS to be the "road" in question, but it hardly looks like a road. It doesn't look like an area under development and does not look like a place I would want to drive into, because who knows what is at the end or if it is possible to turn around. Can see nothing but woods.

 

[Emeralgem]

"There's enough physical evidence out there that we'd like to take a look at, that tells us that hopefully there's someone out there who can provide a piece of information that we need," the sheriff added.

http://www.wrcbtv.com/story/15144246/fbi-now-looking-at-gail-palmgren-disappearance

There's enough physical evidence out there that we'd like to take a look at? Wonder what physical evidence the sheriff is talking about?

 

[BeanE]

beane-I am following the Bryan Stow beating case. They made 3 arrests and charged 2 people with the beating based on the information put together by LAPD's "Clue Coordinator" This person reminded of you and your mind maps. They put all the leads and information together and look for patterns with tips and leads and see if it takes them anywhere. The case is making great progress based on the findings of the clue coordinator and he is being credited with solving the case. I just wanted to share that with you because I thought of you right away!

I just want to remind everyone that the Mindmeister software I use has a free version. You just sign up for an account. There's nothing you have to download or install. All your work is online.

You can not only use it for your case timelines, but also for your case theories, taking the known case info, and building step by step how things would have had to happen for your theory to work. It's very helpful, especially on complicated cases.

 

[Emeralgem]

Okay.... I sent search party #2. There is a narrow dirt path/road, just wide enough for one car to drive into the woods. No room to pass; looks much like a dirt driveway. No street marker, and it's closer to Westwood than Stratford Way. That HAS to be the "road" in question, but it hardly looks like a road. It doesn't look like an area under development and does not look like a place I would want to drive into, because who knows what is at the end or if it is possible to turn around. Can see nothing but woods.

Do we know IF this area has been searched?

 

[Pearl*]

Do we know IF this area has been searched?

I think that's an excellent question, Em. But I'll tell you one thing...it's not gonna be me! I don't like the description I got from my friend. I swear, I've driven by there probably 1000 times, and I've never noticed it.

ETA: I must admit, Em, I was irritated with you for not believing me when I told you it wasn't there. I'm glad you were persistent enough to prompt a second look. I'm curious as to why it rates a spot and a name on Mapquest when it isn't even a marked road, though.

 

[Emeralgem]

I think that's an excellent question, Em. But I'll tell you one thing...it's not gonna be me! I don't like the description I got from my friend. I swear, I've driven by there probably 1000 times, and I've never noticed it.

ETA: I must admit, Em, I was irritated with you for not believing me when I told you it wasn't there. I'm glad you were persistent enough to prompt a second look. I'm curious as to why it rates a spot and a name on Mapquest when it isn't even a marked road, though.

Please know I wasn't being a smart a$$ when I replied to you, so please don't be irritated with me...... I don't live on the mtn... I was just checking out maps...

 

[BeanE]

"There's enough physical evidence out there that we'd like to take a look at, that tells us that hopefully there's someone out there who can provide a piece of information that we need," the sheriff added.

http://www.wrcbtv.com/story/15144246/fbi-now-looking-at-gail-palmgren-disappearance

There's enough physical evidence out there that we'd like to take a look at? Wonder what physical evidence the sheriff is talking about?

I'm thinking of the FBI's offer of technical support and to use their lab for tests. The FBI can run more in-depth analysis on phones, GPS, computers, etc than local LE agencies can. It can take quite a while to get the results back, so I'm thinking this could be the sort of thing he meant.

offering technical support and letting local authorities access its lab to process any evidence collected in the case.

Well, like an idiot, I closed the window before I copied the link. It's Times Free Press. I'll find it again if anyone wants it.

 

[Pearl*]

Please know I wasn't being a smart a$$ when I replied to you, so please don't be irritated with me...... I don't live on the mtn... I was just checking out maps...

Em, I'm not irritated with you. :blowkiss: You did a good thing! You made me go back and question it again. Now we found something we may have needed to find! I was just admitting I was wrong....

 

[Oriah]

Well at least we now know the area exists!

 

[BeanE]

Do we know IF this area has been searched?

We had a discussion the other day about what LE searches had been done, and all I could find in news articles was one water search - Suck Creek. No ground searches. No aerial searches.

 

[Emeralgem]

Please know I wasn't being a smart a$$ when I replied to you, so please don't be irritated with me...... I don't live on the mtn... I was just checking out maps...

quoting myself..
Let me add I can for the most part find my way around the mtn and am familar with quite a few landmarks and streets but I do not know the mtn like most of the residents who live up there....JMHO

 

[Pearl*]

Well, like an idiot, I closed the window before I copied the link. It's Times Free Press. I'll find it again if anyone wants it.

Of COURSE we want the link! Do you expect us to just take your word for it or something? :floorlaugh: Go fish....

 

[Pearl*]

quoting myself..
Let me add I can for the most part find my way around the mtn and am familar with quite a few landmarks and streets but I do not know the mtn like most of the residents who live up there....JMHO

You know, in a way that's a good thing. We who drive these roads day in and day out assume we know everything that is here. I don't really think I'm the only one who would have immediately said "no such thing," especially after a quick drive-by. Of course, the first drive-by wasn't really with much of an open mind, because my friend and I both thought we knew the answer.

It's just unusual (to say the least) to have a need to notice as much detail as we do now. In some ways, people who are less familiar with the place may have an advantage because they aren't going to assume as much.

 

[Oriah]

You know, in a way that's a good thing. We who drive these roads day in and day out assume we know everything that is here. I don't really think I'm the only one who would have immediately said "no such thing," especially after a quick drive-by. Of course, the first drive-by wasn't really with much of an open mind, because my friend and I both thought we knew the answer.

It's just unusual (to say the least) to have a need to notice as much detail as we do now. In some ways, people who are less familiar with the place may have an advantage because they aren't going to assume as much.

Thanks for pointing that out, Pearl. It is very useful (when trying to locate something, or someone) to have both an eye out for change- and an eye out for routine.

If someone passes a vehicle on their way to work every day- and they work on a routine schedule- then it's always a good thing to notice when they don't pass that vehicle. Or if they encounter it elsewhere. Especially if someone is missing along with the vehicle. Kwim?

 

[Oriah]

We had a discussion the other day about what LE searches had been done, and all I could find in news articles was one water search - Suck Creek. No ground searches. No aerial searches.

Bean, if you find anything on ground, aerial or any other waterway searches posted I would love to hear what and where so I can throw them up on MY mindmap :blowkiss:.
(AKA, my GPS. )

 

[BeanE]

Bean, if you find anything on ground, aerial or any other waterway searches posted I would love to hear what and where so I can throw them up on MY mindmap :blowkiss:.
(AKA, my GPS. )

The only other things I found, Oriah, were statements that they were going to have aerial searches, and going to search Lake Jordan, but there are no reports of either having been done.

IIRC, a local posted a ways back that some aerial searches had been done, but I don't even remember who. I want to say it was fbx or fireflylink, but I just can't think of who atm.

:grouphug:

 

[BeanE]

Of COURSE we want the link! Do you expect us to just take your word for it or something? :floorlaugh: Go fish....

http://www.timesfreepress.com/news/2011/jul/23/b1-fbi-will-assist-in-palmgren-case/

:fish:

 

[ThoughtFox]

Aerial and water searches could happen without much fanfare and the news people probably weren't there to cover it.

Remember that some of the places where they might have done aerial searches are woods, forests, and mountains. Since we have several airports around Chattanooga as well as a LifeForce hospital helicopter and military helicopters on the weekend, people might not not even notice or know what was going on.

As far as the water searches go, we have an active Coast Guard here who would help with that. And there have been several drowning victims recovered since Gail went missing, so lots of people are out looking around the waterways all the time.

What I'm saying is, don't assume that nothing is being done just because it's not on Twitter or in the MSM.