TN - Holly Bobo, 20, Darden, believed abducted 13 April 2011 - #10

[norest4thewicked]

How can they be so sure the kidnapper and victim did not leave the area? It wouldn't take long to be miles from there in a vehicle. I also wonder how much time elapsed between the 911 calls and the time LE arrived on the scene?

I believe this is someone who fixated on her and stalked her from afar until he knew her daily routine.

Did her father employee casual labor from around there in his tree business? Could it be someone who worked for him at one time and had occasion to see Holly when perhaps she visited her father on the job?

I think this person lives in the area and is a "loner" who perhaps lives in the backwoods in a cabin or a mobile home. He probably has no close friends and that could be why he could come and go at will without anyone know his wherabouts or missing him on a daily basis.

We can only hope. This would be the least of two terrible scenarios. Hopefully, if he does have her somewhere, her experience hunting in the past will allow her to be able to work through an escape if she's in the woods somewhere.

 

[Carla Lashelle]

Actually they can, if I understand what you are saying correctly. We've been using that type of info on the Hailey Dunn case. Depending on how far the towers are apart the area may be quite small or fairly large. Either way you get a general area/direction though.

I think the triangulation and tracking stuff doesnt work if the phone is not turned on or not in use. Just carrying a phone around may not provide any info. A lot of people get caught because the suspect chats on the phone as he drives too and from a crime scene, not knowing he is leaving a trail behind. Possibly too if all this happened within a tight enough area around Hollys house no pings outside of the area would be received anyway.

 

[Nehemiah]

Once again, I'm asking: Did Heather report this to LE before Holly was taken?

It was said in the media that yes, she did report the incident before Holly's abduction.

 

[norest4thewicked]

Once again, I'm asking: Did Heather report this to LE before Holly was taken?

Yes, I read that it was. I'll look for a link.

 

[ensht]

Well if the phone was turned off then the cell towers wouldn't be able to ping her location even if she had it with her. I heard that Apple is going to incorporate a tracking system for the iphone 5 that records where you've been, in cases like this is would be really beneficial.

The first part of what you said isn't correct in many cases but I don't want to get into details for obvious reasons.

SDT, I'd be reasonably certain they know about the papers by now. If by some chance she was being driven away on an ATV between the noise of the wind, the engine and travel over ground she'd probably have been able to drop stuff without being noticed. BUT once that word got out if this is indeed what happened it appears to have stopped and this is why the LEO's have really stopped releasing information I'd guess.

That information should not have been leaked.

 

[concentric]

It was said in the media that yes, she did report the incident before Holly's abduction.

I asked it because I hadn't seen it in any media. Could be my oversight.
Do you have a link handy?

 

[Eileen730]

How can they be so sure the kidnapper and victim did not leave the area? It wouldn't take long to be miles from there in a vehicle. I also wonder how much time elapsed between the 911 calls and the time LE arrived on the scene?

I believe this is someone who fixated on her and stalked her from afar until he knew her daily routine.

Did her father employee casual labor from around there in his tree business? Could it be someone who worked for him at one time and had occasion to see Holly when perhaps she visited her father on the job?

I think this person lives in the area and is a "loner" who perhaps lives in the backwoods in a cabin or a mobile home. He probably has no close friends and that could be why he could come and go at will without anyone know his wherabouts or missing him on a daily basis.

He could have abducted her and Killed her and been back to school or work in a few hours. No one would have missed him He goes on with his regualr routine.


Remember Elizabeth Olten. The Teen responsible for her murder Alysa Bustamante dug two graves days before the area where she buried her was searched nothing was found...Alysa finally told LE where they could find her.
If she did not tell them the location Elizabeth wouldnt have been found. Like the man that hid the bodies in the hollow tree.

I really think Holly is right there near her home. JMO

 

[hinman]

Once again, I'm asking: Did Heather report this to LE before Holly was taken?

We don't know. But on NG she said the LE contacted her about Hollys case. So I think it was reported. She did not contact them.

 

[norest4thewicked]

I asked it because I hadn't seen it in any media. Could be my oversight.
Do you have a link handy?

Still looking...

 

[liltexans]

A local is posting on NG FB with the initials of JM (about comment #725) - says the brother wore contacts. He got up from bed w/o contacts or glasses, and saw the abductor, thought it was the boyfriend, and thought nothing of it. He went back to sleep. Neighbor heard the scream and called the mom. Mom called the brother and told him to go outside and look for her. Then 911 was called.

Thank you, Surfie! Do you by any chance have the link to NG's FB? TIA!

 

[concentric]

Yeah, LE contacted her about it after Holly was abducted, we know that. But before?

 

[norest4thewicked]

I found this link by Levi...it says towards the bottom that Heather contacted TBI "after the incident," but did she mean HER incident, or Holly's? Hmmmm...

http://levipageshow.blogspot.com/

 

[Eileen730]

What if there are squatters out there in thos woods or a meth lab or something like that..... I guess we would have heard if the searchers found anything like that but then again we dont hear NUTTIN NUTTIN at all LOL

 

[froginTtown]

I think this is a very good, potential link to another assault. Somehow I do not think this particular crime (Holly) is the suspect's first. its real big for a first timer. And even though he was sort of spotted, he got away with it and left little (aparent) evidence. If anything and its not related, the extra attention for Holly may spark some new info in the Sullivan case.

I agree, and it may bring other victims out too...

 

[concentric]

Seems pretty obvious that the attempted abduction of Heather and the abduction of Holly are related. (JMO) Others say that here.

 

[Mick]

And they're keeping us that way too, Eileen

I'm going back to bed..up way too oily...

 

[ensht]

And they're keeping us that way too, Eileen

I don't blame them. Our need to know is trumped by their need to get her home. The leaks may have hurt the case who knows.

 

[norest4thewicked]

Seems pretty obvious that the attempted abduction of Heather and the abduction of Holly are related. (JMO) Others say that here.

It does...but because I am always cynical of this kind of thing, I always think of people who come out after a situation and try to relate it to themselves to get attention. I'm not accusing Heather of that, but I'd love to know for sure if it was reported at the time of the incident. I mean, that type of thing is something that anyone would certainly report. Don't you think?

 

[annalyzer]

It does...but because I am always cynical of this kind of thing, I always think of people who come out after a situation and try to relate it to themselves to get attention. I'm not accusing Heather of that, but I'd love to know for sure if it was reported at the time of the incident. I mean, that type of thing is something that anyone would certainly report. Don't you think?

i read in an article above that she did report it because i was wondering the same thing

 

[norest4thewicked]

i read in an article above that she did report it because i was wondering the same thing

I was pretty sure that I read that too, although I just looked for it and can't find a link. Could you provide one possibly?