TN - Holly Bobo, 20, Darden; believed abducted 13 April 2011 - #34

[Carla Lashelle]

And they could have been the type of dogs to run out the door when the door was left open...before the attack.

I stand by my opinions, too. Let's agree to disagree.

sounds good to me. we really dont know enough about the dogs to say for certain one or both played any sort of role in what happened.

If they had a kennel it would be close to the house not a hundred yards away... the aerial shots have shown quite a bit of property.

Like everything else in this case - real details are pretty sketchy.

 

[Carla Lashelle]

The fact that LE searched the street in front of Holly's school, and IIRC found something, indicates to me that someone was watching or following her. That would seem to me that this probably was NOT someone that knew Holly well.

Also someone that knew Holly well would be able to abduct her in a more risk-free manner. Nabbing someone outside of their own home, in broad daylight, AFTER someone saw you with the victim, is pretty bold. To me that does not imply familiarity with the victim, but rather lack of familiarity. Getting her at her house may have been the only way the suspect could think of based on what (little?) he knew of her. Someone that knew her better would have known more of her schedule or places she went alone. Someone that she was even friends with could arrange something to lure her away. Only someone who was pretty much a stranger to Holly would have to try to get her from her own house.

And there are some pretty strange RANDOM crimes that happen in the home. That can't be discounted. By random I mean the suspect and Holly had no prior involvement before the suspect decided to abduct her. The Denise Amber Lee kidnapping and murder here in Florida was that kind of crime. She was abducted from her own home by someone with no known ties to her. How he found her alone in the house, how he got in, how he got her out, are unknown. Initially it had been said the suspect had been in line with her at the post office that morning but her husband said no, she had not left her two infant children and had not gone to the post office. Somehow the guy knew she was there... but how?

 

[Whisperer]

What have the FBI found on all the evidence collected? Out here, they test them and put the results through a database. They also tell the public they found DNA. My understanding is evidence was found near Dana's work out in Parsons and some was found near her school in Parsons.

I guess the LE out there have better things to do than share info of any evidence found. It is important for them, they say, to keep things close and not share anything..okiedokiethen.

 

[Whisperer]

The more you dig in this case, the closer it brings you to homegrown.

What time do turkey hunters leave for hunting and what time did Drew leave that day?

Sure, we heard he went to work....but are we really sure of the time? It appears everyone in the case works or goes to school in Parsons. The perp traveled there too. I would think a stranger would have gone a different route. This perp went to familiar territory...that is not unusual.

 

[masootz]

What time do turkey hunters leave for hunting and what time did Drew leave that day?

Sure, we heard he went to work....but are we really sure of the time?

again, to insinuate the boyfriend had something to do with it means he managed to a) harm her near her car b) kidnap her or hide her body and c) conceal her personal items all within twenty minutes. additionally, in that case he would have had to later retrieve her personal items and plant them in various locations (the field where the farmer found her bag, wherever they found the "easter" items). it makes absolutely no sense that anyone close to her could have accomplished that in twenty minutes let alone have done all of it so well that over a year later LE still has no evidence.

the person who did this to her may have been a local, they may have been familiar with her and the area around her home, but they were not one of her inner circle. law enforcement was all over her family by 8:00am that morning. there was just no time for any of those theories to make sense.

 

[~n/t~]

It's not impossible for a perp to commit a crime and dispose of a body in a short period of time (depending on where they disposed of the victim).

Not sure why one has to believe the perp stayed in the area? The perp could be local and could've grabbed Holly, walked with her to his vehicle. He could have been anywhere else in Tennessee or another State whilst the rest of Darden was on the Bobo property.

 

[masootz]

It's not impossible for a perp to commit a crime and dispose of a body in a short period of time (depending on where they disposed of the victim).

Not sure why one has to believe the perp stayed in the area? The perp could be local and could've grabbed Holly, walked with her to his vehicle. He could have been anywhere else in Tennessee or another State whilst the rest of Darden was on the Bobo property.

i agree with you except for the part about disposing of the body (in this case). i have to think whatever the person's motivation was, it was not to kidnap this girl just to immediate kill her and hide her body. that doesn't add up in this case, especially since a body has never been found and if they did such a thing in a short period of time, the body would have to be somewhere nearby.

i agree with your notion that the perp likely left the area (and i also think likely with hb).

 

[Whisperer]

It would be helpful to know and see the exact location of items found. Were they thrown or placed, for instance? We know the location (sort of) but no close up of the spot with its surroundings. Remember the Sierra Lamar case? We have close-ups and how far exactly it was from road (even measurements). We saw the field and its proximity to the road with both cell phone and bag.

....not with Holly's case. Perhaps locals have this info but I doubt it. We know it was near or in Bible Hill area. Was the abandoned car with camo clothes/cell(?) there also?

What happened to DNA belonging on these items?

 

[Whisperer]

I think we need to know the time of the 911 calls. I would like to know why CB didn't go into the woods with his gun in hand. The story tells us he grabbed the gun but a neighbor arrived and he talked to her instead. Does that make sense? not to me. The hezz with anybody arriving, I'd be running into those woods following the perp.

 

[wishuwerehere]

The more you dig in this case, the closer it brings you to homegrown.
What time do turkey hunters leave for hunting and what time did Drew leave that day?

Sure, we heard he went to work....but are we really sure of the time? It appears everyone in the case works or goes to school in Parsons. The perp traveled there too. I would think a stranger would have gone a different route. This perp went to familiar territory...that is not unusual.

bbm
I agree. This seems personal to the perp. It makes me think he knew her and she knew him, but not, necessarily, in an obvious sort of way.

Example: If my dentist approached me at my house early one morning while I was about to get into my car, I first would ask “what are you doing here?” He would be out of place. I would think I was dreaming, but then it would sink in quickly something is very, very wrong here. Please note: I am NOT suggesting Holly’s dentist had anything to do with her disappearance. I’m just trying to illustrate that you can be associated with someone (even closely) and they still can be a stranger to your everyday life.

 

[~n/t~]

i agree with you except for the part about disposing of the body (in this case). i have to think whatever the person's motivation was, it was not to kidnap this girl just to immediate kill her and hide her body. that doesn't add up in this case, especially since a body has never been found and if they did such a thing in a short period of time, the body would have to be somewhere nearby.

i agree with your notion that the perp likely left the area (and i also think likely with hb).

Not sure I understand your post. If this was a sexually motivated crime, it could have occurred right then and there on the Bobo property and then take Holly away. The perp had about 20 minutes or more alone with her. IIRC, the neighbour heard the scream at 7:40 and CB woke at 7:50. She may have recognized him and that's why she had to be kidnapped hence the local theory (along with other evidence that this was a local perp). Including the perp knowing his way around the wooded area as suggested by LE and the family.

That said, I wouldn't discount a stranger but if I was a betting woman, I would not wage a heck of a whole lot on a stranger abduction. :moo:

 

[~n/t~]

bbm
I agree. This seems personal to the perp. It makes me think he knew her and she knew him, but not, necessarily, in an obvious sort of way.

Example: If my dentist approached me at my house early one morning while I was about to get into my car, I first would ask “what are you doing here?” He would be out of place. I would think I was dreaming, but then it would sink in quickly something is very, very wrong here. Please note: I am NOT suggesting Holly’s dentist had anything to do with her disappearance. I’m just trying to illustrate that you can be associated with someone (even closely) and they still can be a stranger to your everyday life.

The "what are you doing here" scenario makes a lot of sense.

 

[Whisperer]

bbm
I agree. This seems personal to the perp. It makes me think he knew her and she knew him, but not, necessarily, in an obvious sort of way.

Example: If my dentist approached me at my house early one morning while I was about to get into my car, I first would ask “what are you doing here?” He would be out of place. I would think I was dreaming, but then it would sink in quickly something is very, very wrong here. Please note: I am NOT suggesting Holly’s dentist had anything to do with her disappearance. I’m just trying to illustrate that you can be associated with someone (even closely) and they still can be a stranger to your everyday life.

True...but this guy was dressed in full Turkey Camo. IMO, this doesn't mean he was wearing a disguise but was dressed to hunt that day. I think she knew him in an obvious sort of way based on location of evidence.

I bet many hunters in that area can identify their friends or neighbors, even in camo. They know their mannerisms and they know how they walk.

I think this was either a local who wanted Holly in a sexual way, an accident by family or neighbor or a boyfriend, past or present of hers, that was very angry. The rage was still going on when her belongings were tossed near Dana's work and her school. Do we know of any fight between Dana and any of her suitors? If this is all true, this eliminates stranger.

 

[Whisperer]

"There is a $250,000 Reward for her safe return"

"$85,000.00 for the arrest and conviction of the person/persons responsible"

That's a total of over a Third Of A Million Dollars.

http://www.findinghollybobo.com/tips.html

"If you have any information on the whereabouts of Holly Bobo, please fill out the form below, even if you think it's something that isn't that important.
You can remain 100% anonymous"

Who is paying the reward and who is holding the money?

 

[Whisperer]

No apologies made here for beating a dead horse again, but what are the chances that two men in close proximity to a damsel in distress would not go help her? Both of these men call their mothers? You've got to be kidding me.

 

[officer'swife 2010]

Whilst some may say the case is easily solvable (determined to be a stranger abduction, or someone who knew her but not in the immediate friends and family) but then you have to think, that opens up a whole new ball game of trying to figure out WHO would take her (especially if it is a stranger, no way of tying anyone down)

Please don't be offended by what I'm saying but here it goes. Maybe it was a true abductor that was just driving by? It happens Mickey's case. Or maybe she was involved with someone or it's an inside job. It still makes no sense to me sorry. Maybe im just stupid but why did her brother not chase after her? Was she waiking away or being drug away! Was her head hanging down? Was there blood anywhere else but carport?

 

[Whisperer]

Wasn't Clint observed sitting in his truck writing? He said he was disgusted because people were messing up the crime scene. Is that correct?

 

[Whisperer]

From what I understand all the players have ties to Parsons. Dana works there, Holly goes to school there. Drew works there. I believe Clint was employed there (but facts are getting skewed on his work and school). I bet Karen works there. Where does the male neighbor work?

So most of Holly's friends and family have ties to Parsons. Bible Hill is there and evidence was found there. It is reasonable to conclude the perp has ties there also.

 

[Oriah]

Bumping:
<August 25th and 26th we are organizing a large scale search to look for missing nursing student Holly Bobo. We have some of the best K-9s in Tennessee (USAR Task Force 2) coming in to help. We need all hands on deck for this search. No experience is necessary. We will tell you what we need. Other search and rescue teams are welcome and encouraged. Just call Chris or go online to pre-register so we know who we have.

We will be meeting at the North 40 Truck Stop on Hwy 641 (exit 126 on I-40).

If you can't make it but would like to donate drinks or snacks for the volunteers please contact Chris @ (931) 209-8863 to make arrangements.

Go to www.southeastk9sar.org to register.>

 

[wfgodot]

JACKSON, Tenn. (AP) - Elizabeth Smart, who survived a nine-month-long kidnapping as a teenager, will appear at an event for a missing young Tennessee woman.

The Jackson Sun reported the Smart family has been in contact with the family of Holly Bobo, who disappeared from her West Tennessee home on April 13, 2011. Smart and her father, Ed Smart, will appear at Scotts Hill High School to talk about their family's ordeal.
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The appearance by Smart is free and begins at 7:30 p.m. Monday at the high school.

http://www.newschannel5.com/story/19341138/kidnap-survivor-to-speak-up-for-holly-bobo

http://www.jacksonsun.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=2012308220011&nclick_check=1

Elizabeth Smart to visit West TN: Kidnapping victim to join Bobo family at Scotts Hill event