TN - Holly Bobo, 20, Darden; believed abducted 13 April 2011 - #35

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  • #321
Although I hadn't heard the on-going criminal investigation witness thing till recently, I'll file it with rumor but I can use my knowledge of small towns to rationalize that, in those small towns, and with young people, a great deal of intermingling - between saint and sinner, let's say - does surely go on.

There's another interesting case on WS where a possible future trial appearance - much more verifiable, i.e., it has a basis in fact - may have put in jeopardy the lives of three missing women.
 
  • #322
Although I hadn't heard the on-going criminal investigation witness thing till recently, I'll file it with rumor but I can use my knowledge of small towns to rationalize that, in those small towns, and with young people, a great deal of intermingling - between saint and sinner, let's say - does surely go on.

There's another interesting case on WS where a possible future trial appearance - much more verifiable, i.e., it has a basis in fact - may have put in jeopardy the lives of three missing women.

I don't know anything about there being an on-going investigation-was just speculating-so hope you are not referring to my post, lol.
 
  • #323
I don't know anything about there being an on-going investigation-was just speculating-so hope you are not referring to my post, lol.
Sounded good to me! I have heard it from other sources online. Better carefully label this R - U - M - O - R.

I would speculate that having knowledge of a subject can be dangerous for a person whether court is involved or not.
 
  • #324
Sounded good to me! I have heard it from other sources online. Better carefully label this R - U - M - O - R.

I would speculate that having knowledge of a subject can be dangerous for a person whether court is involved or not.

To me, that kind of situation (knows too much, i.e.) would more likely lead to Holly having a bad "accident" in her car, or disappearing away from her home. This way seems too personal and too apt to point to people in her life, IMO.
 
  • #325
To me, that kind of situation (knows too much, i.e.) would more likely lead to Holly having a bad "accident" in her car, or disappearing away from her home. This way seems too personal and too apt to point to people in her life, IMO.
There may have been an additional revenge motif involved. Or not, or not.

Easier to know a home routine and when a person will (should) be alone and be sure the problem was "taken care of" rather than relying on an auto wreck which one might survive.
 
  • #326
Foxfire, I think run like hell was out. He had already hurt Holly in some way, even if I believe that was not his original intention. For whatever reason, I think this local perp knew Clint was there and didn't care. This makes me surmise that he knew Clint personally and knew his tendencies.
I think Holly knew the perp. I think she thought she could go with him and talk him into reason.


Shefner, imo, if Clint had not just woke up from a deep sleep, I am confident that he would have been more perceptive of the events on 04/13/2011. As an Atlanta Firefighter, many times during the night the gong would wake us from a deep sleep. At times I would not fully awake for miles down the road, til I saw the flames, and I was the driver.

The actions by the abductor that tragic morning indicates an experienced sexual predator with a preplan. The psychopathic predator had gained immediate compliance of Holly, as displayed by the screams & the blood in the carport, as well as her walking willingly with him into the woods. Imo, This indicated that he had a firearm and had threatened her, that if she attempted to warn Clint or others, that he would harm them too..

Dejavu Shefner...
 
  • #327
So.....are we basically happy with the amended list above??
 
  • #328
01. The "Holly knew too much"
02. The "In town, just passing through"
03. The "Rogue LE"
04. The "Retribution against a family member"
05. The "Knew her through the church"
06. The "Victim of a serial offender"
07. The "Kidnapped her to keep her"
08. The "Rogue coon or turkey hunter"
09. The "They know who dunnit but can't close the deal"
10. The "Fell victim to human trafficking"
11. The "Wheel in the sky keeps on turning" - wait, that's not one
 
  • #329
hefner, imo, if Clint had not just woke up from a deep sleep, I am confident that he would have been more perceptive of the events on 04/13/2011. As an Atlanta Firefighter, many times during the night the gong would wake us from a deep sleep. At times I would not fully awake for miles down the road, til I saw the flames, and I was the driver.

The actions by the abductor that tragic morning indicates an experienced sexual predator with a preplan. The psychopathic predator had gained immediate compliance of Holly, as displayed by the screams & the blood in the carport, as well as her walking willingly with him into the woods. Imo, This indicated that he had a firearm and had threatened her, that if she attempted to warn Clint or others, that he would harm them too..

Dejavu Shefner...

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I am not sure any crazed psychopathic stranger abducted Holly. LE has no reason to keep this case locked down if that were the case. They would have been out there warning everyone and keeping this case front and center. They nor the family have chosen that route.

It appears that LE has no interest in warning the public about a psychopathic killer or abductor. They are asking for tips at the local level. This tells me they believe it is somebody local and they have an idea of whom it may be.

The parents don't care to continue pursuing the case in the public eye but remain quiet and distribute flyers to people. This case could have been central and in the national media eye for a long time...but it has been shut down by the family.

Since no one there wants national media or attention...I can only assume they don't want media descending on them and asking questions as NG and others would certainly do. I haven't seen any national search teams, Mark Klass, Mark Furhman or the like there and reporting. TES has not been invited. Why not?
 
  • #330
Sorry if answered or known, but has the LE released ANYTHING about her personaility, relationship w/bf, family? Anything???
 
  • #331
Sorry if answered or known, but has the LE released ANYTHING about her personaility, relationship w/bf, family? Anything???
Nothing significant; most if not all - and I think all - that we know comes from family, friends, and spokespastors.
 
  • #332
I heard they have the guy in custody who killed the nursing student in TN thought the charges are not there yet. It was 2 hrs from Darden. Megan Sharpton....that case hasn't been discussed much at all. I knew I heard there was another missing nursing student in TN but hadn't heard the name. Some have credited NG for helping with this case.

I was looking up the other missing girl from years ago near Parsons...when I cam across Megan.
 
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Well, that reward money helped.
 
  • #336
I heard they have the guy in custody who killed the nursing student in TN thought the charges are not there yet. It was 2 hrs from Darden. Megan Sharpton....that case hasn't been discussed much at all. I knew I heard there was another missing nursing student in TN but hadn't heard the name. Some have credited NG for helping with this case.

I was looking up the other missing girl from years ago near Parsons...when I cam across Megan.

I happened upon Megan's case months ago because of NG and followed it since then. Not sure why Megan didn't get as much interest in her case.
 
  • #337
Well, that reward money helped.

Who is the district attorney? Do they normally get involved in missing person cases before the victim is found or a suspect is apprehended?

5 days after her disappearance is when the governor announced this reward.
 
  • #338
Who is the district attorney? Do they normally get involved in missing person cases before the victim is found or a suspect is apprehended?

5 days after her disappearance is when the governor announced this reward.
I think in a high profile case in a small town, the D.A. might possibly involve himself early.

That reward - sounds like they knew who did it and it was a rough lot they'd be dealing with and lots of money would be needed to loosen lips, as the consequences for the person who talked might be dire.
 
  • #339
I think in a high profile case in a small town, the D.A. might possibly involve himself early.

That reward - sounds like they knew who did it and it was a rough lot they'd be dealing with and lots of money would be needed to loosen lips, as the consequences for the person who talked might be dire.

Thanks and agree. IMO, it's one of the reasons this case appears to be shrouded in mystery. There is much more going on here than meets the eye.
 
  • #340
i'm still going with #15(old list)/#7(new list) - kidnapped her to keep her. i think about it like this -

whoever did this planned it out. they didn't break into her house, they didn't snatch her in public, they didn't do anything sloppy like that. they waited until she was "alone" and most vulnerable, when they thought they'd have all the time in the world. i keep seeing folks asking why the perp was so leisurely and i think it's because he knew how the bobo family worked and he thought it would be hours before anyone noticed her missing. i've read that she had class twice a week, so the morning he took her was only one of two when she left at that time and i don't think it was random "luck" that he happened upon her that morning.

thinking he had all the time in the world, if this was just a simple sexual assault he could have done whatever he wanted to at her house or in her house. he didn't. instead he likely waited in the woods for her to exit her house and he got to her in the thirty seconds it takes a person to walk out their front door and get into their car. that's not a sign of being unprepared, it again points to someone who had this planned out.

this was probably not the first time he sat in the woods watching the house. he knew where to hide, he knew where to park, he had a plan for spiriting her away. when he approached her at the car he took his time talking to her. he wasn't in a hurry. in hindsight we know that law enforcement, cb, neighbors, etc were on the scene within ten to twenty minutes of this, yet he managed to get away and get her away with him...and not just "away", but so well managed that even though he thought he had all the time in the world he still hasn't been caught after a year and a half and no sign of her has been found in that time. that's another red flag of someone who had a plan a, plan b, plan c.

it's my belief that whatever articles of hers have been found have been planted by him, and he still hasn't been caught. there's no denying he's calculated, careful, exacting.

there's no part of the above m.o. that says this was random. there's no part of the above that says this was simple sexual assault, simple revenge, or trying to get rid of competition/someone who saw too much. in any of those cases you get the job done and you get out of town. you don't bother walking a hostage through the woods, you don't make sure she takes all of her stuff with her, you don't manage to disappear in twenty minutes, you don't hide her/her body so well that no one has found a trace of it in a year and a half. you don't manage to plant items of hers around town without getting caught.

once you look at how this guy operates and eliminate the options that don't make sense with his careful planning, his ability to be calm (and take ten minutes talking to her) in the middle of enacting his plan, his ability to blend in with others (such that he can plant her items without being noticed) then i don't know how you can think he's not capable of having kidnapped her as his "prize" to keep her and frankly none of the other options make sense to me. she may not be alive now, a year and a half later, but whatever he did was well planned and well executed and to me you only go to that effort if you're planning to kidnap her to keep her. :twocents:
 
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