TN - Holly Bobo, 20, Darden; believed abducted 13 April 2011 - #35

[ThoughtFox]

What if it's an accidental death by someone the family knows and the perp/friend confessed it was an accident.

Maybe it was Holly's boyfriend behind this...so far, has anyone verified he was at the grandma's farm hunting?

Maybe the Bobo family has accepted Holly's accodental death, decided to keep it quiet and buried Holly in a private funeral?

Just guessing here...LOL

If the body had been found, wouldn't the family want an autopsy to be done to verify the death as "accidental"? Why would they take anyone's word for that after all this time? It's not logical.

And that never happens anyway because of police procedures. The FBI or TBI or any law enforcement agency working on the taxpayer's dollars woudn't still call this a missing persons case if the body had been found. Sometimes LE withholds information from the public for legal reasons while they build a case, but they don't lie about whether someone is dead or not. I can't think of one case like that in all the years I've been here on Websleuths.

There's just no way discovery of a body could be kept quiet. Someone would talk to authorities.

 

[Carla Lashelle]

Most people dont make an accidental death look like a murder, then go through all the efforts to search for a missing person for over a year, including quitting your job, dropping out of school, organizing searches, etc. Thats just ludicrous IMHO.

I think folks are making this wayyy too complicated and filling in easily explainable gaps in the "story" with too much TV show stuff.

In a nutshell... someone, probably local or semi local, saw Holly, spent some time following her or watching her, moved in on the house when he thought she was alone, and abducted her. The fact that he was seen with Holly is important, but since Clint did not, initially, seem to be alarmed, he did not pay much attention and the suspect got away. Perhaps LE was not as focused as they could have been. Perhaps not. It could be that just little evidence was left behind. If Holly's abduction had NOT been witnessed I doub't people would come up with these overly complex, convoluted, complicated theories.

Look at it this way... Holly is known to be at home that morning. Makes some phone calls perhaps to her mom or b/f as she is getting ready to go to school. A neighbor hears loud screams and calls 911... Cops arrive at the house, find Holly's car still there and some blood... Expanded searches find some personal items and her lunch bag.

Now, from that, I don't see how you can come up with the various accidental death, cover up, theories. Especially given the time frame of half an hour or less.

 

[Hatfield]

Roughly 80 miles.

I'd like to know whether the motel key card was blank or if some info (name of motel/logo/room #) was legible on the card.

JMO
As far as the motel, I cant remember from the story whether the name of the motel was on it.

I think the frustration the person who found it had was that all that good information could be found out by LE most likely. LE probably could figure out what motel even if not printed on it by the style of the card and also go to the motel and then figure out who had which room there and on what dates. At a minimum, it would either prove or disprove the person may or may not be linked to the case. Like if they stayed there prior to the time of the abduction, that would prove it wasnt related.

I am of the opinion that it may have nothing to do with the case, but like everything else, we will probably never know.

 

[ChristYTN]

When I search for the original story about the hotel key card, it says the family posted the info about there being a key found. Then it says that TBI says no key card was found.
It is not routine for the TBI to give out information to anyone.
So, is it something that TBI is keeping close to their vest, or is it not true there was one found. Why else would a key card be found in the woods?


I don't know, I know theres a lot of talk about it and one particular suspect was no stranger to having hotel keys often.

 

[Hatfield]

This is a really interesting link, it could be repetitive though

http://www.jacksonsun.com/article/2...s-early-handling-investigation?nclick_check=1

....SNIPPED.....

Dana Bobo, Holly's father, said so many people walked around the house and close to the garage where a puddle of blood was that he took it upon himself to secure the area.

IMO
This is why I think it is so important that LE release the blood evidence and also what items were confirmed to be found.

This, is critical because if it was truly a "PUDDLE", rather than specks, drips, etc., that tells us the injury was probably very severe. With some other stories of just specks, we were led to believe it may have been a minor injury.

The amount of blood informs us of how severe the injury was. If we go with PUDDLE, then to me, that is very severe and possibly life threatening at that moment.

I wish LE would release whose blood it was and also the amount of blood found and where exactly it was found. Would like to get this info from LE only. In that article, it is the reporter saying "puddle", not the father. The reporter is relaying info about what the father said about having to secure the area, and the reporter just throws in the word "puddle", so it is their opinion, in my opinion.

 

[ChristYTN]

Hatfield, that comment about 'puddle of blood' just floors me. Like you said, is it really a puddle or splatters or drops? People do exaggerate...right? But can you imagine if you were the father and actually had to rope off an area yourself? Frustrating to say the least.

I think time has gone by enough that more could come out about Hollys case.

 

[Carla Lashelle]

The trouble with a lot of descriptive words is they do not have a precise meaning. What is a puddle? Usually in household terms its small. Like the dog peed in the corner and there is a little puddle. But then a mud puddle can be 10 feet across. Or a pool... is a pool a big puddle? But tears pool up in the corner of your eye too. Thats pretty small.

If you strip away all the descriptive words that have been used here like pool, puddle, flecks, flakes, etc. and look at the remaining information, we have the statements from LE that it was a "small amount" of blood and not necessarily indicative of a major or fatal injury.

A lot of small injuries can actually bleed a good bit... like a bloody nose, for example. Or a torn out ear ring. Nose bleeds can even happen naturally without any sort of foul play.

 

[ChristYTN]

Thanks Carla, that's what I had in my mind. It's like when your kid has a cut...they think it was pints of blood.
With some folks, they throw around the descriptive words and not even mean to.

I don't know, if her dad had to actually rope off an area on his own, wouldn't he have thrown a fit over it? I know I would.

 

[reedus23]

Most people dont make an accidental death look like a murder, then go through all the efforts to search for a missing person for over a year, including quitting your job, dropping out of school, organizing searches, etc. Thats just ludicrous IMHO.

I think folks are making this wayyy too complicated and filling in easily explainable gaps in the "story" with too much TV show stuff.

In a nutshell... someone, probably local or semi local, saw Holly, spent some time following her or watching her, moved in on the house when he thought she was alone, and abducted her. The fact that he was seen with Holly is important, but since Clint did not, initially, seem to be alarmed, he did not pay much attention and the suspect got away. Perhaps LE was not as focused as they could have been. Perhaps not. It could be that just little evidence was left behind. If Holly's abduction had NOT been witnessed I doub't people would come up with these overly complex, convoluted, complicated theories.

Look at it this way... Holly is known to be at home that morning. Makes some phone calls perhaps to her mom or b/f as she is getting ready to go to school. A neighbor hears loud screams and calls 911... Cops arrive at the house, find Holly's car still there and some blood... Expanded searches find some personal items and her lunch bag.

Now, from that, I don't see how you can come up with the various accidental death, cover up, theories. Especially given the time frame of half an hour or less.

Well said.

 

[reedus23]

IMO
This is why I think it is so important that LE release the blood evidence and also what items were confirmed to be found.

This, is critical because if it was truly a "PUDDLE", rather than specks, drips, etc., that tells us the injury was probably very severe. With some other stories of just specks, we were led to believe it may have been a minor injury.

The amount of blood informs us of how severe the injury was. If we go with PUDDLE, then to me, that is very severe and possibly life threatening at that moment.

I wish LE would release whose blood it was and also the amount of blood found and where exactly it was found. Would like to get this info from LE only. In that article, it is the reporter saying "puddle", not the father. The reporter is relaying info about what the father said about having to secure the area, and the reporter just throws in the word "puddle", so it is their opinion, in my opinion.

LE knows exactly how much blood was there so they have an idea how severe the injury was. Beyond that, personally, I'm not getting hung up on semantics.

Not from LE but I believe DB did say the blood was Holly's.

 

[Hatfield]

The trouble with a lot of descriptive words is they do not have a precise meaning. What is a puddle? Usually in household terms its small. Like the dog peed in the corner and there is a little puddle. But then a mud puddle can be 10 feet across. Or a pool... is a pool a big puddle? But tears pool up in the corner of your eye too. Thats pretty small.

If you strip away all the descriptive words that have been used here like pool, puddle, flecks, flakes, etc. and look at the remaining information, we have the statements from LE that it was a "small amount" of blood and not necessarily indicative of a major or fatal injury.

A lot of small injuries can actually bleed a good bit... like a bloody nose, for example. Or a torn out ear ring. Nose bleeds can even happen naturally without any sort of foul play.

Thanks. I had forgotten about that and I think you are correct that LE did state it was a small amount very early on.

I am at the point where I only want to see official LE statements on anything with this case because IMO, there was just way too many contradictions and confusion in a lot of the followup articles and interviews that were held.

I realize I need to stop waiting on LE to release any informtion because apparantly they are never going to do it, but I keep wishing for it.

IMO, the lack of having official LE released statements of the events is what has contributed to all the confusion and theories and mystery. They could have squelched a lot of those problems by having an official LE spokesperson that could release to the media official statements. Very early on, it was a national news story, and just trying to get basic answers to some basic questions was like pulling teeth. The national media like JVM + NG just gave up.

It was and still is being treated so secretively that it makes people think something fishy is going on. Its almost like a national security secret or something.
There are many examples, but here is a good one. Remember when the mounted horseback search team came to look for her. They first tried to hide they were even searching for her. Why? Why? Why? It is great news that they came to help search, so why so darn secretive about things. It is just abolutely crazy and bizarre. Then, after they left, the other town sheriff says he found evidence and local says they did not. Boy, if that is not conflicting info, then nothing is.

A few of us dedicated people here refuse to give up and still want answers.
We want to know what happened to her. The only way to help answer that is to begin to get some solid answers to some of the basics like amount of blood found, whose blood it was, what evidence was found and where it was found, 911 call transcripts, etc.

We luckily got some answers from NON-LE sources, but IMO, I find I have to treat all that info with a grain of salt because it is not reliable. Like the specks, pool, flakes, or puddle of blood.....pick and choose what to believe.

 

[Xavier]

Hatfield, that comment about 'puddle of blood' just floors me. Like you said, is it really a puddle or splatters or drops? People do exaggerate...right? But can you imagine if you were the father and actually had to rope off an area yourself? Frustrating to say the least.

I think time has gone by enough that more could come out about Hollys case.

I think Mr Bobo was not exagerrating at all per the bloody puddle.

That's exactly what he saw IMO

I wonder has there been any talk of a blood trail?

You'd think a blood puddle is a serious wound and more blood trails would be found on the pavement an dinto the woods, left on grass, leaves, etc

I wonder if LE found RV or cycle tires tracks in the woods? Because I think the perp ambushed Holly and was hiding unseen in the woods behind the house

And I believe the perp probably recently met Holly and had a casual chat with her, found out some basic intel about her, like her college class schedule, work schedule, maybe even her address etc

The perp extracted exactly the info from Holly he needed, very casually

I definitely believe 100% this perp is clever, cunning, boldly fearless to abduct someone in broad daylight at her home and is someone who has committed serious crimes before

 

[Whisperer]

I think a puddle of blood is significant...it doesn't matter if it is small or not. The fact that it formed a puddle means a wound was gaping.

 

[Carla Lashelle]

I think a puddle of blood is significant...it doesn't matter if it is small or not. The fact that it formed a puddle means a wound was gaping.

No not at all. I have gotten a "puddle" from a 1/4" cut on the side of my finger. Of course "puddle" is up for definition. Aside from the word puddle it has been said that the amount of blood was small and not indicative of a major would. Lots of small injuries can bleed quite a bit. Again a nose bleed, scalp would, torn earring, etc. can bleed a good bit but not in a life threatening way. Obviously since Holly was later seen walking away from the house, seemingly uninjured, she was not gravely wounded. Also there seemingly was no blood trail out of the garage area. Remember too Clint heard voices outside in the yard first before he saw Holly in the Garage, and then he saw her again walking away. When was she actually injured? We don't know exactly. In the yard? At first in the garage and then she went into the yard and back to the garage? Before walking away?

 

[wfgodot]

Yes, agreed, I got "a small lake" once while slicing radishes extra-thin for a salad. Things can bleed. Much depends on proximity of the cut area to the surface containing the spilled blood, i.e., the closer, the larger it may appear to be.

 

[wishuwerehere]

Odd, isn't it, that there was no trail of droplets from that spot to where she taken...

Thought just crossed my mind that perhaps the cut her and then told he if she didn't go with him he would slash her face, and being beautiful, she followed him... just guessing... it bugs me that she didn't put up a fight or try to make a break for it... okay, easy for me to say that... poor, poor Holly.

BBM
Very odd.

 

[ChristYTN]

Since her brother 'saw' her going into the woods, it leaves out my thought that the person that hurt her could have hit/cut her and covered the wound with a article of clothing as he led her away, right?
Or if he was wearing a thick jacket...it could have absorbed the drops if he was holding her closely or tight.

 

[Carla Lashelle]

I suspect that the wound was, indeed, minor. Holly and the stranger were together in the garage and yard for around half an hour. I assume the injury occurred toward the beginning of the event. But, who knows. Even a pretty severe wound could stop bleeding on its own in half hours time meaning there was no blood trail to follow. Certainly a small cut would stop.

 

[reedus23]

Odd, isn't it, that there was no trail of droplets from that spot to where she taken...

Thought just crossed my mind that perhaps the cut her and then told he if she didn't go with him he would slash her face, and being beautiful, she followed him... just guessing... it bugs me that she didn't put up a fight or try to make a break for it... okay, easy for me to say that... poor, poor Holly.

Slash her face or just flat out threaten to kill her. I think either would get most people to go.

 

[reedus23]

Odd, isn't it, that there was no trail of droplets from that spot to where she taken...

Thought just crossed my mind that perhaps the cut her and then told he if she didn't go with him he would slash her face, and being beautiful, she followed him... just guessing... it bugs me that she didn't put up a fight or try to make a break for it... okay, easy for me to say that... poor, poor Holly.

We don't know if there was or wasn't.