TN - Holly Bobo, 20, Darden; believed abducted 13 April 2011 - #35

[Xavier]

(BBM) OMG, Carla! I had no idea this happened to you and your sister. I'm so very sorry. Is there someplace where I can learn more of your story?

Carla, I'm sorry to hear of your tragedy. God bless you and your family

 

[reedus23]

Here's a good link showing some resistance from the TBI:



The only development has been the TBI claiming that an Ohio-based group called Tactical Search and Rescue is hindering their investigation with "false leads" and "incorrect" information.

The volunteer group insists they are not interfering and that they continue to receive three to four good leads a week that are not being taken seriously by officials.

"So far the TBI has basically shot us down and called us liars," said Tony Calabrese, 46, the group's founder.

Calabrese, who previously worked in the music recording industry, started the group's website because he could relate to the family's pain. He says his own two daughters were kidnapped by a family member in 1999, and safely recovered after three days.

Calabrese believes his group has been wrongly dismissed by the police. "I don't see how anybody helping search could hinder an investigation when they're providing leads," said Calabrese. "There's no shame to law enforcement admitting to or asking for outside help."

"We are not working in cooperation or conjunction with that investigation," said TBI spokesperson Helm. "They do not have firsthand knowledge of the case."

Calabrese said he has spoken to two of Bobo's family members, but has been asked not to disclose who those relatives are. He says that her family is "very appreciative of what we're doing" and says he has never been told by them to stop what he is doing.

LE certainly has been tight lipped but I would hardly describe any reaction they had to the likes of someone like TC as resistance.

 

[Whisperer]

They went to Ohio and tore up his house and took confiscated his computers. It was noted that LE accused him of obstructing an investigation...so much for trying to help.

I don't know about others but I get the distinct impression that LE wants absolutely no one intruding in this case. From my perspective, they want no one talking about it either.

What exactly have they confirmed? Dana spoke out (on JVM) about the blood and was whisked from his chair and replaced by the pastor spokesperson who tells us absolutely nothing when asked a direct question.

 

[Eileen730]

They went to Ohio and tore up his house and took confiscated his computers. It was noted that LE accused him of obstructing an investigation...so much for trying to help.

I don't know about others but I get the distinct impression that LE wants absolutely no one intruding in this case. From my perspective, they want no one talking about it either.

What exactly have they confirmed? Dana spoke out (on JVM) about the blood and was whisked from his chair and replaced by the pastor spokesperson who tells us absolutely nothing when asked a direct question.

I think they went and took his computers because they want the info thats on those computers! He probably found out more sheet then they did.

 

[ChristYTN]

I know the TBI just doesn't release information, but I think in this case...its time someone does.

 

[reedus23]

They went to Ohio and tore up his house and took confiscated his computers. It was noted that LE accused him of obstructing an investigation...so much for trying to help.

I don't know about others but I get the distinct impression that LE wants absolutely no one intruding in this case. From my perspective, they want no one talking about it either.

What exactly have they confirmed? Dana spoke out (on JVM) about the blood and was whisked from his chair and replaced by the pastor spokesperson who tells us absolutely nothing when asked a direct question.

And well deserved from what I have read. In my very humble opinion, individuals like TC set this investigation back aeons and, if there ever was a chance at solving this case early on, it is the likes of TC that prevented that from happening. LE was forced to follow so many false leads and deal with so many peripheral issues, they couldn't focus on the task at hand. The shame of it is is that his actions, if allowed to continue, could jeopardize getting a conviction if an arrest were made. Frankly, LE is partly to blame for that as well because I think the lack of information provided by them created a void that could be filled by the likes of TC and others like him.

And of course they don't want anyone intruding on their case. It is their job. When they need help from the public, they will ask for it. No one should be allowed to intrude on their case. Having said that, I believe there were instances when the public's assistance could have been beneficial, i.e. exactly what to look out for as far as possessions of Holly's.

Regarding what has been released or confirmed....very little. Whisked might be a strong word, but DB was replaced by the pastor during the show. He has confirmed the blood was Holly's. I don't think we know if anyone else's was also present. Beyond that, not much from LE.

 

[reedus23]

I think they went and took his computers because they want the info thats on those computers! He probably found out more sheet then they did.

Sheet being the operative word. If you throw enough of it on the wall something is bound to stick. If I were to throw out the name of every single person in the state of Tennessee and surrounding states a potential suspects, I'm bound to be right. The problem is, I haven't helped the investigation one bit, but now have made things worse for LE because they have to eliminate all those potentials just because someone spewed it out there even though there was no real basis for it.

 

[Whisperer]

Here's another news story that's interesting:

http://abcnews.go.com/US/holly-bobo-search-police-make-significant-find-hunt/story?id=13448569





"The person responsible for Holly's disappearance lives in the area," said Mark Gwyn, director of the Tennessee Bureau of Investigation. "Because of the terrain, you have to know where you're going, entrances and exits. We feel the person is in the community. We're asking the community if you know someone who has changed their routine, please let us know."


Gwyn said it is possible Bobo's abductor led the woman to a vehicle left on a road, accessible through the woods, and drove away.

Wouldn't there be fresh tire tracks on that logging road if it were used that morning?

 

[Whisperer]

Sheet being the operative word. If you throw enough of it on the wall something is bound to stick. If I were to throw out the name of every single person in the state of Tennessee and surrounding states a potential suspects, I'm bound to be right. The problem is, I haven't helped the investigation one bit, but now have made things worse for LE because they have to eliminate all those potentials just because someone spewed it out there even though there was no real basis for it.

How does anyone know there was no real basis for it?

...looks to me like he must have given them something to work on. From where I sit, they hadn't had much before.

 

[Xavier]

Wouldn't there be fresh tire tracks on that logging road if it were used that morning?

Well you'd think so and maybe foot prints, blood too

Where did they find the tape with Holly's hair glued to it? Was it in the carport or in the woods, on the roadside behind the Bobo's?

Did LE dust for the perp's fingerprints on the tape? Or Kelly's lunchbox, purse, cell phone?

I wonder if LE has questioned the alibi of one Donnie F Jones and some of the SO's in the area on their whereabouts on the morning Holly went missing?

Did LE check their cell phone records?

 

[reedus23]

How does anyone know there was no real basis for it?

...looks to me like he must have given them something to work on. From where I sit, they hadn't had much before.

First and foremost is because LE doesn't file obstruction of justice charges just for the heck of it and then search and retrieve property in another state via a subpoena.

Second, he posted and named so many different unrelated individuals, it's impossible they are all correct.

The only development has been the TBI claiming that an Ohio-based group called Tactical Search and Rescue is hindering their investigation with "false leads" and "incorrect" information.

Prior to its removal Calabrese posted, among other things, photos of locals and threats to their safety.

On May 28 Calabrese provided an update stating that information had been found in Holly’s case after a lengthy investigation by a private organization. He claimed all information would be publicly posted on the Facebook page. It never was.

Calabrese said all findings were submitted to the FBI, TBI, and Decatur County Sheriff’s Department. However, when asked if there was any truth to those claims Helm responded via email May 30, “No.”

On May 30 Calabrese claimed on his Facebook page that Holly had been found and that authorities would not release information until DNA testing was done. Asked if that information was true or rumor Helm responded, “It’s a rumor.”

Earlier in May Calabrese claimed there had been a large-scale search one weekend at “the quarry.” Asked to confirm this search took place Helm replied via email May 11, “There was not a search at the quarry over the weekend.”

Days later Calabrese claimed his “team” had uncovered new information that led them to an area that had to be thoroughly ground searched. He claimed he was awaiting clearance from the TBI and urged people to sign up for the search via a contact form on a website he’d created.

When asked to confirm if the TBI was aware of the Tactical SAR Team or if they had provided clearance for them to search, Helm replied via email May 17, “No.”

Asked if there was any truth to a statement made by Calabrese that information had been found by a private search organization and submitted to the TBI, FBI, and Decatur County Sheriff, and that the truth is in the evidence as they awaited an arrest and conviction, Helm replied via email May 30, “No.”

Calabrese created a Facebook page claiming he was working with the TBI and FBI. He posted photos of landmarks and companies he claimed to be “points of interest,” and photos of young men he classified as “points of interest” even though none of the young men had been named persons of interest or suspects in Holly’s disappearance.

This raised confusion among locals and people following the case.

All of the information and photos on the Search and Info Facebook page were removed in late May, just before articles were released about the TBI’s concerns over Calabrese’s interference with the investigation into Holly’s disappearance.

Locals raised concerns for the safety and wellbeing of the young men labeled as “points of interest,” one saying, “If that was my son on that Facebook page I’d be terrified. I’d probably move out of state out of fear that someone would believe one of these boys is responsible for Holly’s disappearance. I can’t imagine what these boys’ mothers are going through. “

At the time, the TBI publicly stated that Calabrese’s involvement was hindering their investigation.

Search and rescue groups across the U.S. have shared that Calabrese’s behavior is unusual and that his methods do not follow the rules and guidelines specified for legitimate search and rescue groups.

http://www.examiner.com/article/sea...rese-for-obstructing-holly-bobo-investigation

And I had to cut it down because it was twice as long and that was after just a quick article search.

Personally, I don't know if what he did warranted criminal charges, but at the least it was in poor taste and as can be seen above, clearly did not help the investigation in any way, shape or form. Other, legitimate groups, have been called in and assisted. If TC were legitimate, I don't believe LE would be opposed to his assistance because they have allowed other outside groups to assist. I think TC may have started with his heart in the right place possibly, but the bottom line is he is no different than you or I except for the fact he claims to know who are people of interest when we are intelligent enough to know that, while we may question certain individual's actions, we don't know who is or is not a person of interest. I'm not trying to convince you of TC's legitimacy, just responding with my personal thoughts. Everyone can judge him and his credibility for themselves. Just my 2 cents and very humble opinion.

 

[meganx3xo]

Here's another news story that's interesting:

http://abcnews.go.com/US/holly-bobo-search-police-make-significant-find-hunt/story?id=13448569




nvestigators have said they believe Bobo's abductor lives in or near the 20-year-old college student's town of Parsons, Tenn., and have asked her neighbors to report any unusual activity or a break in peoples' routine those noticed in recent days.

The reward for information leading to the arrest and conviction of whoever abducted Holly Bobo is up to $80,000, including $50,000 from the state, which was announced by Gov. Bill Haslam last week, and a reward offered by Bobo's community.

"The person responsible for Holly's disappearance lives in the area," said Mark Gwyn, director of the Tennessee Bureau of Investigation. "Because of the terrain, you have to know where you're going, entrances and exits. We feel the person is in the community. We're asking the community if you know someone who has changed their routine, please let us know."




Some of that key evidence includes the 20-year-old nursing student's lunch box found miles from her home. The other evidence being analyzed was found in the woman's driveway and includes blood on the ground and duct tape with blond hair stuck to it ,her cell phone and purse. .

Gwyn said it is possible Bobo's abductor led the woman to a vehicle left on a road, accessible through the woods, and drove away.

Holly's purse was found? Am I reading that correctly?!

 

[reedus23]

Well you'd think so and maybe foot prints, blood too

Where did they find the tape with Holly's hair glued to it? Was it in the carport or in the woods, on the roadside behind the Bobo's?

Did LE dust for the perp's fingerprints on the tape? Or Kelly's lunchbox, purse, cell phone?

I wonder if LE has questioned the alibi of one Donnie F Jones and some of the SO's in the area on their whereabouts on the morning Holly went missing?

Did LE check their cell phone records?

I don't think we know if it was Holly's hair nor do we know if it is in any way related to Holly's case. Many pieces of duct tape were found as it is common for people hiking through woods to put duct tape on the bottom of their pants. There was a piece of tape shown in one news clip. Someone please correct me if I got that wrong.

As for the rest, I certainly hope they dusted for prints and questioned all of the RSO's in the surrounding area.

 

[reedus23]

Holly's purse was found? Am I reading that correctly?!

I believe the only thing LE has acknowledged finding is the lunch box/bag and of course blood at the scene, though LE hasn't acknowledged whose it is.

 

[Whisperer]

I was looking at the quarry and that seems like a ripe place for a search. LE certainly should have been looking there. So I don't consider TC off track at all.

I have asked many times...."Where exactly was the lunch bag found?' I want to see how far from the road it was. I want to see the exact spot and its relationship to the area and the road. A pic was posted for me but it was of no value because there was no road, distance, or anything to relate to its location. With Sierra's case, LE certainly keeps us informed and we could all see where the bag was found. As far as searching, it is not against the law for anyone to look or question people on their own. Apparently, TN has different rules.

Also, where exactly was the blood found? Clint says it was below the silhouettes. Okiedokie. Could that please be graphed so all can see where the blood was? I don't think that is asking too much. IMO, all involved in this case are way too silent. I say they want this case to go away. My guess is that some even monitor this board....

I'm glad California doesn't try to stop people from sleuthing by raiding their homes and computers. They treated TC like a suspect....the only suspect btw. What are they afraid of? Too much work or somebody outside getting too close?

 

[Whisperer]

http://www.newschannel5.com/story/14477180/day-7-of-search-for-holly-bobo-in-decatur-county

In this article it speaks of her school papers possibly being waded up and tossed. I think this was near the quarry or school but have no link. It would be very easy to confirm the school work. If it was hers, we have somebody very eager to throw her school related items out near her school and this leaves an open door to interpretation for motive.

I wish there was a photographer like we have in most cases.

 

[~n/t~]

I was looking at the quarry and that seems like a ripe place for a search. LE certainly should have been looking there. So I don't consider TC off track at all.

I have asked many times...."Where exactly was the lunch bag found?' I want to see how far from the road it was. I want to see the exact spot and its relationship to the area and the road. A pic was posted for me but it was of no value because there was no road, distance, or anything to relate to its location. With Sierra's case, LE certainly keeps us informed and we could all see where the bag was found. As far as searching, it is not against the law for anyone to look or question people on their own. Apparently, TN has different rules.

Also, where exactly was the blood found? Clint says it was below the silhouettes. Okiedokie. Could that please be graphed so all can see where the blood was? I don't think that is asking too much. IMO, all involved in this case are way too silent. I say they want this case to go away. My guess is that some even monitor this board....

I'm glad California doesn't try to stop people from sleuthing by raiding their homes and computers. They treated TC like a suspect....the only suspect btw. What are they afraid of? Too much work or somebody outside getting too close?

You bring up an interesting point. Besides the 3 or 4 RSO's that were reported as possibly being connected to this case (we never heard anything further about them btw), TC was the only other person that we know of, LE questioned in this case and he made headlines. No mention of others, by name, taking polygraphs or being questioned.

 

[~n/t~]

Really sad that this case appears to be heading in the cold case files along with so many others. It truly becomes overwhelming when we look at all the unsolved cases. Sometimes I sit back and wonder where they all are. Are they dead? Are they alive?

Finding Holly Bobo Website.

http://www.findinghollybobo.com/

 

[OldSteve]

Really sad that this case appears to be heading in the cold case files along with so many others. It truly becomes overwhelming when we look at all the unsolved cases. Sometimes I sit back and wonder where they all are. Are they dead? Are they alive?

Finding Holly Bobo Website.

http://www.findinghollybobo.com/

Seen a number of ID shows on cable TV where an unsolved case gets solved by the new eyes of the a cold case team - so there is hope for Holly.

Thanks for the the link to
http://www.findinghollybobo.com/[/QUOTE]

it's a very impressive, but ever so sad to see this beautiful young woman missing.

 

[reedus23]

I was looking at the quarry and that seems like a ripe place for a search. LE certainly should have been looking there. So I don't consider TC off track at all.

I have asked many times...."Where exactly was the lunch bag found?' I want to see how far from the road it was. I want to see the exact spot and its relationship to the area and the road. A pic was posted for me but it was of no value because there was no road, distance, or anything to relate to its location. With Sierra's case, LE certainly keeps us informed and we could all see where the bag was found. As far as searching, it is not against the law for anyone to look or question people on their own. Apparently, TN has different rules.

Also, where exactly was the blood found? Clint says it was below the silhouettes. Okiedokie. Could that please be graphed so all can see where the blood was? I don't think that is asking too much. IMO, all involved in this case are way too silent. I say they want this case to go away. My guess is that some even monitor this board....

I'm glad California doesn't try to stop people from sleuthing by raiding their homes and computers. They treated TC like a suspect....the only suspect btw. What are they afraid of? Too much work or somebody outside getting too close?

Whisperer, I feel your frustration as well with the lack of information. But it's not LE's job to to answer every question the public has about an investigation. It would not only be harmful to the investigation, but would be a never ending job. It is their job, as I see it, to release that information that would be beneficial to the investigation or protect the public at large if there was an ongoing threat. Having said that, on certain points, I do believe it would have been beneficial to inform the public, such as what possessions of Holly's were missing.

TC was a suspect...for obstruction of justice...and they treated him as such. There is also a difference between sleuthing and inserting yourself into an investigation or case. Personally, I think TC went overboard and it drew a reaction from LE that may have been overboard. As far as what they are afraid of, they are afraid of an outsider destroying a case or investigation.