TN - Holly Bobo, 20, Darden; believed abducted 13 April 2011 - #35

[deca]

Or a little bit of both. I certainly think it was planned out to a good extent. Way too many stars have to line up in a bad way for Holly for it not to have been planned out. At the same time, I think the perp was also extremely lucky, particularly in LE's initial handling. My perception is that it was a circus with the inmates running the asylum with no clear leader making clear decisions on what needs to be done or not done.

Yes, imagine if no one had called LE. The Bobo's would have come home that day and seen Holly's car and no Holly. The trail would be at least 8 hours old.
More importantly, I think the fact that it was witnessed really put this case over many others- in a spotlight. Look, we are talking about it here- when there are many cases that only have a few dozen postings and one thread. And still, despite all the attention, the case is still unsolved. Pretty lucky for the perp.

 

[Londonrraine]

Was the friend that was on the phone with Holly that morning one of the girls in the YouTube video singing with Holly in the car?

Do you have a link for this video? It would be helpful to see video of Holly. I don't see any.

 

[Plumeria5]

Do you have a link for this video? It would be helpful to see video of Holly. I don't see any.

Miley CyrusARTY IN THE USA - YouTube

 

[Whisperer]

http://www.jacksonsun.com/article/2...econstruct-time-before-Holly-Bobo-s-abduction

This article appears to be a narrative given to Jordan Buie (reporter) by a family member. According to the article we have Holly alive @ 0700 and gone by 0800. According to article Clint last saw Holly about 0755.

LE says they got the FIRST 911 call about 0730. Was this the time of the scream? If so, then she was within feet of the house for about 25 min...quite a long time for a serious planned abductor to waste getting her to go with him. We know the doors were unlocked as Karen had related they never locked their doors or cars. If possible, she could have run into the house easily. Her little doggie was trying his best to get help for her....but Clint never heard anything.

But when he did, he didn't open the door and walk outside. The big question is why didn't he go outside? If holly's dog was barking, that should tell Clint it wasn't Drew.

 

[norest4thewicked]

This article appears to be a narrative given to Jordan Buie (reporter) by a family member. According to the article we have Holly alive @ 0700 and gone by 0800. According to article Clint last saw Holly about 0755.

LE says they got the FIRST 911 call about 0730. Was this the time of the scream? If so, then she was within feet of the house for about 25 min...quite a long time for a serious planned abductor to waste getting her to go with him. We know the doors were unlocked as Karen had related they never locked their doors or cars. If possible, she could have run into the house easily. Her little doggie was trying his best to get help for her....but Clint never heard anything.

But when he did, he didn't open the door and walk outside. The big question is why didn't he go outside? If holly's dog was barking, that should tell Clint it wasn't Drew.

My understanding, from being in on this case from day one is that Clint was just getting out of the shower at the time he looked out the window. It was speculated that he wasn't dressed and didn't really relate it to being something devious until some time later. Please don't ask for a link because there is no way that I could find one after the day I have had today! haha But, that's what I remember.

 

[Whisperer]

I recall hearing that at on time too, norest...

Being woke up by a frantic dog barking and deciding it was time to take a shower makes no sense to me.

 

[MizStery]

My Opinion Only
It is obvious to me ...one of two things would jump start and hopefully pick up the mostly cold lost trail to find Holly.
1) A Grand Jury
Or
2) Someone would need to hire a private 'investigator' ....either or ....someone needs to bring in a team of 'investigative' journalist.

Why? The one thing we need to fill out SmothOperator's or Mr.Noatak timeline is just a reasonable amount of transparency (i.e. transcript only of redacted 911 calls).....MOO

 

[reedus23]

My Opinion Only
It is obvious to me ...one of two things would jump start and hopefully pick up the mostly cold lost trail to find Holly.
1) A Grand Jury
Or
2) Someone would need to hire a private 'investigator' ....either or ....someone needs to bring in a team of 'investigative' journalist.

Why? The one thing we need to fill out SmothOperator's or Mr.Noatak timeline is just a reasonable amount of transparency (i.e. transcript only of redacted 911 calls).....MOO

The first option is not an option unless you have someone in mind. It would be great if they do, but I don't think they're ready for a grand jury or it would have been done. The 2nd option is viable but I don't know if a PI is going to be any more transparent than LE. A journalist certainly would. JMHO

 

[reedus23]

This article appears to be a narrative given to Jordan Buie (reporter) by a family member. According to the article we have Holly alive @ 0700 and gone by 0800. According to article Clint last saw Holly about 0755.

LE says they got the FIRST 911 call about 0730. Was this the time of the scream? If so, then she was within feet of the house for about 25 min...quite a long time for a serious planned abductor to waste getting her to go with him. We know the doors were unlocked as Karen had related they never locked their doors or cars. If possible, she could have run into the house easily. Her little doggie was trying his best to get help for her....but Clint never heard anything.

But when he did, he didn't open the door and walk outside. The big question is why didn't he go outside? If holly's dog was barking, that should tell Clint it wasn't Drew.

Can you point me to where it says the first call came in at 7:30? I have heard that referenced a few times now and have searched for it. The only thing I came up with is on the scanner thread there appears to be an unrelated call that came in just minutes before 7:30 from a lady and her alarm was going off and LE responded. I'm wondering if there was some confusion (by LE) at the outset as to times because of this other incident. This confusion with the other incident may also explain LE's confusion over home invasion at the outset if, in the chaos, some were accidentally combining this other incident with Holly's. I think this is a possibility if 7:30 was only referenced once or twice but more doubtful if LE has repeatedly stated 7:30. We won't get them, but as y'all have said, it would be nice to get some sort of call logs or transcripts of the 911 calls.

 

[reedus23]

My understanding, from being in on this case from day one is that Clint was just getting out of the shower at the time he looked out the window. It was speculated that he wasn't dressed and didn't really relate it to being something devious until some time later. Please don't ask for a link because there is no way that I could find one after the day I have had today! haha But, that's what I remember.

I don't think you'll find a link for that anyways. I'm 99% certain that was not reported in MSM. It may or may not be true, but I think it was one of many things thrown out there early on.

 

[reedus23]

This article appears to be a narrative given to Jordan Buie (reporter) by a family member. According to the article we have Holly alive @ 0700 and gone by 0800. According to article Clint last saw Holly about 0755.

LE says they got the FIRST 911 call about 0730. Was this the time of the scream? If so, then she was within feet of the house for about 25 min...quite a long time for a serious planned abductor to waste getting her to go with him. We know the doors were unlocked as Karen had related they never locked their doors or cars. If possible, she could have run into the house easily. Her little doggie was trying his best to get help for her....but Clint never heard anything.

But when he did, he didn't open the door and walk outside. The big question is why didn't he go outside? If holly's dog was barking, that should tell Clint it wasn't Drew.

Why would a dog barking give anyone reason to believe it wasn't DS? My dog barks when anyone, even my family, comes home. In fact, it amazes me how he starts barking when my wife is still a house or 2 down the street coming home. My point is I don't think a dog barking is any reason to make CB think it couldn't be DS outside with Holly.

 

[Carla Lashelle]

My understanding, from being in on this case from day one is that Clint was just getting out of the shower at the time he looked out the window. It was speculated that he wasn't dressed and didn't really relate it to being something devious until some time later. Please don't ask for a link because there is no way that I could find one after the day I have had today! haha But, that's what I remember.

The shower story has not appeared in any legit interview. Karen said Clint was asleep at the time. Holly had been up studying that morning and she closed Clint's bedroom door. Clint never said he was in the shower either. He woke up after the scream, supposedly to a/the dog barking. He heard stranger voices outside in the yard. He had thought perhaps it was the meter/water reader.

 

[norest4thewicked]

I recall hearing that at on time too, norest...

Being woke up by a frantic dog barking and deciding it was time to take a shower makes no sense to me.

We have never heard specifics on exactly what occurrence happened at what moment. I never heard that he woke up to a frantic dog barking and then he took a shower. He was a young man and having a step-son close to his age, it didn't seem strange at all to me. But, that's just me.

 

[Mysterylover]

The shower story has not appeared in any legit interview. Karen said Clint was asleep at the time. Holly had been up studying that morning and she closed Clint's bedroom door. Clint never said he was in the shower either.
He woke up after the scream, supposedly to a/the dog barking. He heard stranger voices outside in the yard.
He had thought perhaps it was the meter/water reader.

Carla, That's a new portion I have never heard...the water/meter reader man.
I thought he saw H. and Camo man kneeling in the carport over what C. assumed was a turkey.
He said he heard them talking and the male had a young sounding voice.
Later he saw the 2 walking toward the trees.
During that time, he talked to K. 2 times on the phone.

Later on I read he slept until 7:50 am and the dog woke him up barking.
I can't see ALL the above taking place in only 10 minutes..and K. arriving home at 8:00 am before the Sheriff who got there at 8:05 am....someone's Time Line is malfunctioning imo..jmo.

 

[norest4thewicked]

I think that what is happening now is that people are going on wild speculation because there is no new news. I will admit to be one of those because I thought I remembered a shower, and it wasn't there. I never heard of a meter reader either, but I think that people get desperate to find anything to talk about when the case is as cold and confusing as this.

 

[reedus23]

I think that what is happening now is that people are going on wild speculation because there is no new news. I will admit to be one of those because I thought I remembered a shower, and it wasn't there. I never heard of a meter reader either, but I think that people get desperate to find anything to talk about when the case is as cold and confusing as this.

I have it in my notes and can probably pull up the article it was in. CB never said he thought he saw a meter man. I think he said when the dog woke him up barking he first thought there might be a meter man or whomever at the house. He then checked around the house and looked outside and saw Holly's car was still there.

Regarding the timeline, like I said before, those times are all best estimates. If one person is off by 4 minutes in one direction and the other person is off by 3 minutes the other way, that adds 7 minutes to the time you're looking at. Even if someone says 7:43, they're time keeper might not be set the same as mine. Mine might say it's actually 7:46. I think overall the time line is pretty consistent and fairly logical. The only thing that I would tend to accept as strange is the length of time the perp was present, but even that I don't know if it is that outrageous.

 

[reedus23]

I think that what is happening now is that people are going on wild speculation because there is no new news. I will admit to be one of those because I thought I remembered a shower, and it wasn't there. I never heard of a meter reader either, but I think that people get desperate to find anything to talk about when the case is as cold and confusing as this.

You're not confused. The shower was discussed here and if I had to guess, it probably started on Topix or Facebook, but it has never been mentioned MSM. So there might be some truth to it, maybe not, but at this point I do think it's considered rumor.

 

[Plumeria5]

Interesting article.

http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/story/2011/06/23/f-abductors-brad-garrett-qa.html

I have tried to picture this guy as I read the article. How I wish I had that gift.

Holly's birthday is Friday. 22 years old. So young. What would she be doing now? Engaged, working as a nurse helping people, moving and getting her own apartment?? If only...

 

[Whisperer]

]Can you point me to where it says the first call came in at 7:30?[/B] I have heard that referenced a few times now and have searched for it. The only thing I came up with is on the scanner thread there appears to be an unrelated call that came in just minutes before 7:30 from a lady and her alarm was going off and LE responded. I'm wondering if there was some confusion (by LE) at the outset as to times because of this other incident. This confusion with the other incident may also explain LE's confusion over home invasion at the outset if, in the chaos, some were accidentally combining this other incident with Holly's. I think this is a possibility if 7:30 was only referenced once or twice but more doubtful if LE has repeatedly stated 7:30. We won't get them, but as y'all have said, it would be nice to get some sort of call logs or transcripts of the 911 calls.

I will have to find it again. I just posted the video of the Sheriff saying "about 0730" not too long ago.

 

[Whisperer]

Here ya go...Sheriff Wyatt speaking about time.

http://www.jacksonsun.com/VideoNetwork/903287890001/JS-Video-Sheriff-Wyatt-Kidnapping