TN - Holly Bobo, 20, Darden; believed abducted 13 April 2011 - #35

[reedus23]

Offering a reward to the criminal is certainly a new twist, but I will be shocked if anyone comes forward. As it stands now, they can probably carry on without ever being arrested, IMO. So why admit a horrible crime, just to end up in prison?

The only way I can see this working is if the perp is sent to prison long term for some other crime and the reward money can be given to his family. But they would also have to be aware of this offer.

Still, it is interesting.

Which brings up the real possibility that lifers already in jail will falsely claim to be involved just to get the money, creating more work for LE to rule out erroneous claims.

 

[Carla Lashelle]

I never thought of Israel Keyes as a possible suspect in Holly's abduction, but it is a great possibility!

I saw where he had been ruled out already. He was not in KY at the time...

 

[amber1]

Carla Lashelle-
I am so glad to hear that! I have always held on to the hope that who ever took her did not kill her, but maybe had a crazy obsession with her, keeping her alive.
It makes me glad Keyes was ruled out, because he would not be the type to let his victims live long at all.

 

[Carla Lashelle]

Well I suppose its a double edged sword. I had mentioned Keyes here a while ago. But it seems other people had the same idea and checked him out. On the other hand... Holly is still missing and (sadly) presumed dead by this time.

 

[~n/t~]

I saw where he had been ruled out already. He was not in KY at the time...

Do you happen to have an article or confirmation that he was ruled out in Holly's case? I don't think he was but on IK's thread we're trying to keep track of who was ruled out and I haven't seen confirmation from the FBI that he was in Holly's case. FYI....Celina Cass and Brianna Maitland were officially ruled out and there is confirmation of that by the FBI.

Oh and I know you know but Holly is from Tennessee and not Kentucky. bbm above

 

[~n/t~]

Which brings up the real possibility that lifers already in jail will falsely claim to be involved just to get the money, creating more work for LE to rule out erroneous claims.

That's true but I would think they have enough intelligence to weed out the BS'ers. A jailhouse snitch might be exaclty what we/they need!

 

[reedus23]

Do you happen to have an article or confirmation that he was ruled out in Holly's case? I don't think he was but on IK's thread we're trying to keep track of who was ruled out and I haven't seen confirmation from the FBI that he was in Holly's case. FYI....Celina Cass and Brianna Maitland were officially ruled out and there is confirmation of that by the FBI.

Oh and I know you know but Holly is from Tennessee and not Kentucky. bbm above

I think the only official statement released is that no one has been ruled in or out.

 

[Chili Fries]

I imagine it is almost impossible to put a tail on a perp in the Darden area...

Not long after Holly disappeared, there was a local guy around Holly's age who complained on Facebook that a cop was stationed outside his house, he griped about the police thinking he had something to do with her disappearance.

Hi, can you give us some examples as to why they refused to release specifics. I'm very curious. Thanks.

BTW, I haven't seen the documentary and will now have it on my list to watch during my time off. It's gotten some great reviews from what I saw online.

I haven't seen that documentary, but an investigator did talk about it on an episode of "Disappeared" I saw recently. It was about Tara Grinstead's disappearance. The detective was frustrated that info was leaked about the latex glove being found in Tara's yard. He said that case details being public hurts the investigation because LE can't use it during interviews to find out whether a suspect may be telling the truth or not.

Information can give LE the upper hand when interviewing suspects. It can help them determine who is telling the truth, whether they are questioning real suspects or trying to rule out people who try to falsely confess or pass on bogus tips. It's the same type of thing that happens in personal life. Say you want to find out for sure if your spouse has been lying to you. It helps to have an idea of what he or she has really been doing when you confront him or her. The interrogator with information speaks from a position of strength. You don't want the person you are questioning to know what you know.

 

[justagirl247]

It really blows my mind how some of the cases have such little media coverage, especially this one I live in TN probably about an hour from darden and there is very little ever said about it even when it first happened it wasnt covered as well as i think it should have been ....and its such a strange case Idk just my input

 

[wfgodot]

Hard to maintain steady interest in a case in which so little has been revealed by LE and by family and by friends, isn't it.

Life's motorcade speeds on.

 

[amber1]

I find it so odd her case isn't getting more coverage-usually pretty young girls who vanish with the cause of the disappearance being an obvious abduction get the most coverage (ie Mickey Schunick, Tara Grinstead, Taylor Behl,Brooke Wilberger etc).
Everything about this case is just weird and bizarre!!!

 

[wfgodot]

Coverage almost always depends on the willingness of either LE, family, or both, to, first, seek it.

The Bobo family I think has been completely disserved by the unprofessional efforts of its "pastor-handlers."

Then, too, it's not out of the question that news providers smell something entirely hinky about the case.

It might only take a review of the media documentation of the case's first hour to feel that way.

 

[Hatfield]

JMO
I agree wfgodot. The way Nancy Grace + JVM dropped this story just after 1 or 2 shows, I took that as a message that they must have felt something was strange about this case. Either that, or they hit a brick wall when they tried to do their own investigtion to get more information. Without information, there is no story to tell.

Someone recently brought up something interesting that I had not thought about. The son neighbor hearing the screams could have been hearing a screaming fight shouting match, and then told his mom and left. That makes a lot of sense if that is what happened. I had never considered that before. It would also make sense why the mom neighbor called the school first too to let the mom know there was a fight going on over there. This is a good example of lack of information because in most other cases, TV media would be all over that neighbor with live interview of them. Why have we not had that in this case?

Whatever the reason, it is very bizarre, and also is why the case will never be solved, until more informtion is officially shared by official reliable sources.

 

[Carla Lashelle]

The neighbor was interviewed at least once and the link with it has been posted here.

Somehow after nearly two years I don't think there is going to somehow be any big flood of new information (or any information) unless someone does a document dump.

 

[Hatfield]

The neighbor was interviewed at least once and the link with it has been posted here.

Somehow after nearly two years I don't think there is going to somehow be any big flood of new information (or any information) unless someone does a document dump.

Thanks. I had not seen anything much about the neighbor. I would love to get clarification on the scream or screams, like how loud they were and was there multiple screams or just 1 scream or was it shouting type screams like in a very loud argument screaming match. Also wonder why did the son leave his mom with that situation if screaming was going on. That seems so strange he would leave his mom in that situation.

I agree that we should not expect to get any more information after all this time.

I was hoping somebody would write a book about this case and do a lot of personal investigative work for the book before writing it. It sure would make an interesting read. What I find so fascinating is there really seems like a lot of possibilities of what could have happened. At first, it seems like only a few possibilities, but the more you think about it and learn what little we learned, we find there really is quite a lot of possible things that could have happened.

The bottom line is I feel really sad for Holly and would like to know what happened to the poor girl. It seems like justice for her may never come.

 

[Carla Lashelle]

As I recall it was described as a scream or blood curdling scream. Not a shouting match. There is a difference between shouting/yelling and a scream.

Clint did say he heard voices outside (talking) and that would be at some short point after the scream(s?).

 

[YYCgirl]

I came to websleuths when Mickey dissapeared and that is when I learned about Hollys case. I read bits and peices of the thread off and on but spent most of my time on Mickeys thread. Hollys case is very sad as well as bizarre, I have been reading it much more, almost everyday recently but since I wasn't here from the beginning don't know everything. Is there a link to somewhere that has a timeline as well as the facts and evidence about this case from the beginning? TIA

 

[wfgodot]

I came to websleuths when Mickey dissapeared and that is when I learned about Hollys case. I read bits and peices of the thread off and on but spent most of my time on Mickeys thread. Hollys case is very sad as well as bizarre, I have been reading it much more, almost everyday recently but since I wasn't here from the beginning don't know everything. Is there a link to somewhere that has a timeline as well as the facts and evidence about this case from the beginning? TIA

It sort of goes in circles here, does this discussion, a result of the paucity of information. One reaches the end quickly, and, suddenly, it's time for Clint's silhouettes and turkey/not turkey again.

 

[OldSteve]

I came to websleuths when Mickey dissapeared and that is when I learned about Hollys case. I read bits and peices of the thread off and on but spent most of my time on Mickeys thread. Hollys case is very sad as well as bizarre, I have been reading it much more, almost everyday recently but since I wasn't here from the beginning don't know everything. Is there a link to somewhere that has a timeline as well as the facts and evidence about this case from the beginning? TIA

Here's one from SmoothOperator
TN - Holly Bobo, 20, Darden; believed abducted 13 April 2011 - #33 - Page 18 - Websleuths Crime Sleuthing Community

4:30am*Holly awoke to study for an exam @8am. She studied in her room, alone, on her bed, and with the door shut..(time verified only via Holly's telling her mom later that morning)

5:30am*Dana stops at Holly's bedroom door and speaks to Holly thru her closed door asking did she need any money. She replies yes and he leaves it for her on kitchen counter.

5:35am*Dana leaves for work.

5:35am*Karen awoke and went into Holly's room to speak with her. Holly was studying on her bed.

Just shy of 7:00am*Holly is now studying at the kitchen table. Karen packs Holly's lunch and puts her breakfast in the microwave.

7:00am*Karen leaves to go to work(26 min travel time to work)

7:00am*Hannah calls Holly from her home landline on Holly's cell.. Holly indicates she is going to eat her breakfast and put her shoes on to leave.

Almost 7:30am*Holly's at the kitchen table studying when she receives a call from Drew. He proceeds to tell her of the cousin not recognizing him and wasn't giving permission for he and his dad to hunt on her grandma's 60acres located across the county.

7:30-7:35am*A flurry of calls take place between Holly, Drew, and Karen discussing the incident of Drew's not being recognized to hunt grandma's property.

7:35am*Karen speaks to Holly for the last time via cell phone.<Noted that Clint was still in bed asleep.>.

7:40am*James Barnes(neighbor to the south)Hears a scream from the Bobo's house. He alerts his mom(who lived there as well) and then left for work.

Around 7:40am*Cathy Wise(James' mom) calls Karen at school amd leaves her a msg in the office.

7:45am*Karen receives the neighbor's msg while in the school cafeteria.

7:50am*Clint is awakened by the dog barking. He looks out the window and sees no unfamiliar vehicles, but does see Holly's car. This prompts him to call mom as he'd already looked around and knew Holly was not in the home. He says his call was to ask if Holly had received a ride to school or did not have school that day. Mom's phone is in her classroom so he gets no answer.

At some point AFTER 7:50am* mom after receiving neighbor's msg she uses library phone to call home. Clint tells mom that Holly's car is still home. Mom immediately hangs up and calls 911(routed to Henderson Co)

7:50am*After the call Clint looks out the kitchen window and sees his sister and who he believed to be Drew casually walking towards the woods. This prompts him to call Holly's cell. It rings 5 times and goes to voicemail. He then calls Drew's phone.. It rings 5 times and goes to voicemail.<Noted that this assures Clint that Holly/Drew were indeed together with neither answering their cell phone.>.

7:55am*Karen again calls home with Clint relaying he'd just seen Holly/Drew walking towards the woods. Mom immediately tells Clint that is NOT DREW.call 911.Mom then tells Clint to get a gun and go after the man! Mom immediately hangs up and calls 911 a second time.*<Noted that at this time mom still HAD NOT told Clint that Drew had been on the other side of the county hunting.. THO THAT WAS MUCH EARLIER BUT FACT WAS CLINT STATED AT THAT TIME HE STILL BELIEVED IT TO BE DREW.

8:00am*Clint with loaded gun leaves out the backdoor of the residence, walks thru the open garage attached to the house. He sees a puddle of blood near Holly's car. *<Noted that even at this point Clint was still NOT alarmed, still believed it was Drew, and the blood was from a turkey(tho clearly no turkey in site)>.

About 8:00am*Clint walked towards the woods when Cathy Wise pulls up the driveway( James who heard the scream's mother)*<Noted that the school secretary told Cathy to go to the Bobo home to check> Cathy proceeds to tell Clint about the screams she had heard just some 15-20mins prior.[I personally noted that it does state that "she" heard the scream(s), but could just be the author's choice in words and not meaning it that "she" actually heard the scream(s)] *<Noted it is at this point that Clint becomes alarmed for the first time> .

About 8:00am*Clint calls 911 at the same time as he heard the engines rev of the quickly approaching patrol cars onto their Swan Johnson Rd. *<Noted that Clint states that the first officers were on the scene IN LESS THAN 10 mins from the time that he saw his sister/male walking towards the woods>

8:00am*Drew is at his job in Parsons

8:00am-ish*Mom arrives home with Terrie Bromley from school.

8:30am*Dana arrives back home.

 

[YYCgirl]

Here's one from SmoothOperator
TN - Holly Bobo, 20, Darden; believed abducted 13 April 2011 - #33 - Page 18 - Websleuths Crime Sleuthing Community

4:30am*Holly awoke to study for an exam @8am. She studied in her room, alone, on her bed, and with the door shut..(time verified only via Holly's telling her mom later that morning)

5:30am*Dana stops at Holly's bedroom door and speaks to Holly thru her closed door asking did she need any money. She replies yes and he leaves it for her on kitchen counter.

5:35am*Dana leaves for work.

5:35am*Karen awoke and went into Holly's room to speak with her. Holly was studying on her bed.

Just shy of 7:00am*Holly is now studying at the kitchen table. Karen packs Holly's lunch and puts her breakfast in the microwave.

7:00am*Karen leaves to go to work(26 min travel time to work)

7:00am*Hannah calls Holly from her home landline on Holly's cell.. Holly indicates she is going to eat her breakfast and put her shoes on to leave.

Almost 7:30am*Holly's at the kitchen table studying when she receives a call from Drew. He proceeds to tell her of the cousin not recognizing him and wasn't giving permission for he and his dad to hunt on her grandma's 60acres located across the county.

7:30-7:35am*A flurry of calls take place between Holly, Drew, and Karen discussing the incident of Drew's not being recognized to hunt grandma's property.

7:35am*Karen speaks to Holly for the last time via cell phone.<Noted that Clint was still in bed asleep.>

7:40am*James Barnes(neighbor to the south)Hears a scream from the Bobo's house. He alerts his mom(who lived there as well) and then left for work.

Around 7:40am*Cathy Wise(James' mom) calls Karen at school amd leaves her a msg in the office.

7:45am*Karen receives the neighbor's msg while in the school cafeteria.

7:50am*Clint is awakened by the dog barking. He looks out the window and sees no unfamiliar vehicles, but does see Holly's car. This prompts him to call mom as he'd already looked around and knew Holly was not in the home. He says his call was to ask if Holly had received a ride to school or did not have school that day. Mom's phone is in her classroom so he gets no answer.

At some point AFTER 7:50am* mom after receiving neighbor's msg she uses library phone to call home. Clint tells mom that Holly's car is still home. Mom immediately hangs up and calls 911(routed to Henderson Co)

7:50am*After the call Clint looks out the kitchen window and sees his sister and who he believed to be Drew casually walking towards the woods. This prompts him to call Holly's cell. It rings 5 times and goes to voicemail. He then calls Drew's phone.. It rings 5 times and goes to voicemail.<Noted that this assures Clint that Holly/Drew were indeed together with neither answering their cell phone.>.

7:55am*Karen again calls home with Clint relaying he'd just seen Holly/Drew walking towards the woods. Mom immediately tells Clint that is NOT DREW.call 911.Mom then tells Clint to get a gun and go after the man! Mom immediately hangs up and calls 911 a second time.*<Noted that at this time mom still HAD NOT told Clint that Drew had been on the other side of the county hunting.. THO THAT WAS MUCH EARLIER BUT FACT WAS CLINT STATED AT THAT TIME HE STILL BELIEVED IT TO BE DREW.

8:00am*Clint with loaded gun leaves out the backdoor of the residence, walks thru the open garage attached to the house. He sees a puddle of blood near Holly's car. *<Noted that even at this point Clint was still NOT alarmed, still believed it was Drew, and the blood was from a turkey(tho clearly no turkey in site)>.

About 8:00am*Clint walked towards the woods when Cathy Wise pulls up the driveway( James who heard the scream's mother)*<Noted that the school secretary told Cathy to go to the Bobo home to check> Cathy proceeds to tell Clint about the screams she had heard just some 15-20mins prior.[I personally noted that it does state that "she" heard the scream(s), but could just be the author's choice in words and not meaning it that "she" actually heard the scream(s)] *<Noted it is at this point that Clint becomes alarmed for the first time> .

About 8:00am*Clint calls 911 at the same time as he heard the engines rev of the quickly approaching patrol cars onto their Swan Johnson Rd. *<Noted that Clint states that the first officers were on the scene IN LESS THAN 10 mins from the time that he saw his sister/male walking towards the woods>

8:00am*Drew is at his job in Parsons

8:00am-ish*Mom arrives home with Terrie Bromley from school.

8:30am*Dana arrives back home.

Thank you!

What are the wood by the Bobo home like? Where do they lead? Could the perp gotten away with holly that fast?