Found Deceased TN - Jean Culbertson, 57, Savannah, 22 Sept 2020

[moonriverfarm]

Waiting on ID of the red truck person.

 

[Irmese]

dbm

 

[Irmese]

RSBM

I missed that part. Do we know if she still had her purse, phone & keys when she was found? It’ll be interesting to see how long that phone was pinging & where.

Ok. I think I've broken a WS rule when I mentioned her purse, phone and keys. Nothing about them were mentioned by LE before or after her death. I got it from an SM post by her relative, but that post was removed when her body was found, so I can't even prove it was there now. Truly a mistake on my part and I apologize. I know I can't go back and edit, but I will see if I can correct it somehow, even if it's just by replying to it. Added: I reported the post myself.

 

[oviedo]

so nothing new ? our located deceased is filled with too many woman

 

[JudgeJoe]

Ok. I think I've broken a WS rule when I mentioned her purse, phone and keys. Nothing about them were mentioned by LE before or after her death. I got it from an SM post by her relative, but that post was removed when her body was found, so I can't even prove it was there now. Truly a mistake on my part and I apologize. I know I can't go back and edit, but I will see if I can correct it somehow, even if it's just by replying to it. Added: I reported the post myself.

No worries. It is very easy to get interested in a case, wanting justice, and lose track of where something was. Perhaps that info will come out formally- or be clarified- and we can get back to it then. In the meantime, glad you’re here!

 

[Tracey4AU]

Yes. Also SM posts/comments can't be discussed here (per WS rules) if they are not by the victim, official suspect, police or news media.

My understanding has been that I could reference them but not discuss. That’s why I didn’t detail the comments themselves. My apologies if that is incorrect.

 

[indicolite22]

My understanding has been that I could reference them but not discuss. That’s why I didn’t detail the comments themselves. My apologies if that is incorrect.

According to my experience, we can say that there's interesting info in the comments to an allowed source, but can't mention what the info is, because that would be considered posting a rumor. Comments made by allowed sources are fine.

 

[Yemelyan]

Abduction by a stranger or even by an acquaintance (non family or intimate) is pretty rare in her age group. I would not be surprised to find out the neighbors' report of a man in the red truck is a red herring. Not that the neighbors are intentionally trying to misdirect the investigation, or even that they are wrong about what they saw, but if she was talking to a person as described it may be totally coincidental to her disappearance. A total stranger's involvement in her abduction and death would be surprising to me...especially since her body was found so close to her home.

 

[indicolite22]

Abduction by a stranger or even by an acquaintance (non family or intimate) is pretty rare in her age group. I would not be surprised to find out the neighbors' report of a man in the red truck is a red herring. Not that the neighbors are intentionally trying to misdirect the investigation, or even that they are wrong about what they saw, but if she was talking to a person as described it may be totally coincidental to her disappearance. A total stranger's involvement in her abduction and death would be surprising to me...especially since her body was found so close to her home.

That wasn't her neighbor, but a neighbor to Whites Community Center where her car was left, which was about 6 miles from her home. If she didn't leave with the man in the red truck during the 20 minutes when the neighbor wasn't looking, how did she leave and get back home? Surely the man with the truck would have come forward as a witness by now.

 

[Yemelyan]

That wasn't her neighbor, but a neighbor to Whites Community Center where her car was left, which was about 6 miles from her home. If she didn't leave with the man in the red truck during the 20 minutes when the neighbor wasn't looking, how did she leave and get back home? Surely the man with the truck would have come forward as a witness by now.

Yeah, we don't know if he has come forward or not, from what LE has released so far.

Let's say the neighbors' report was verified to be credible. If the man in the red truck did come forward, whether or not his story makes sense, what advantage do they gain at this stage by announcing anything either way? It's actually to their advantage to say nothing, as then any person that they are really looking at as a possible suspect has no information about the direction their investigation is going.

 

[evilwise]

For what it's worth, the scenario that pops into my head now that this thread is here in located persons is slight car accident in the road and both vehicles pull into parking lot to exchange insurance information, Jean is not feeling well ether resulting in the fender bender or on account of the stress from it. She asks to be given a ride home because she doesn't feel well enough to drive, gets dropped off somewhere a farther from the house than she can walk so sits down somewhere in hopes of recovering and doesn't.

I don't know if maybe the house is a bit of a walk from the drive or road, I don't know why the red truck driver wouldn't have come forward, maybe totally unaware. Lots of ifs and maybes that could easily be eliminated with more info but that's how it looks to me from the thread so far.

 

[oviedo]

“We talked to one of the neighbors, and they see a red color pickup pull in when she pulled her car in. Her and the gentlemen got out of the vehicle, stood there and talked for a little bit. The subject that saw them went back in the house and came out about 20 minutes later, and her car was still there, but her and the male subject were gone in the red pickup truck. It was an extended cab pickup,” [Hardin County Sheriff Johnny] Alexander said.

Culbertson is about 5-foot 8-inches tall, has brown hair, glasses and weighs about 230 pounds.

Law enforcement seek missing woman in Hardin County - WBBJ TV

Authorities: Body of missing Hardin County woman located | WKRN News 2
Hardin County Sheriff Johnny Alexander said the body of 57-year-old Jean Culbertson was found Saturday afternoon about 150-200 yards from the Culbertson home.

The Sheriff said the investigation as ongoing and the Tennessee Bureau of Investigation is working alongside his department.

Culbertson’s body was sent to Memphis for an autopsy.
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On his way home, he found her vehicle at the community center. Neighbors near the area noticed a red truck pulled Culbertson over and the driver began talking to her in the parking lot.
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How does a truck pull someone over? I can't find any MSM about her autopsy results - I think it's very odd where she was found if a stranger did this to her.
JMO

 

[indicolite22]

For what it's worth, the scenario that pops into my head now that this thread is here in located persons is slight car accident in the road and both vehicles pull into parking lot to exchange insurance information, Jean is not feeling well ether resulting in the fender bender or on account of the stress from it. She asks to be given a ride home because she doesn't feel well enough to drive, gets dropped off somewhere a farther from the house than she can walk so sits down somewhere in hopes of recovering and doesn't.

I don't know if maybe the house is a bit of a walk from the drive or road, I don't know why the red truck driver wouldn't have come forward, maybe totally unaware. Lots of ifs and maybes that could easily be eliminated with more info but that's how it looks to me from the thread so far.

It would be interesting to know how far from the access road/drive she was found. Also, it would be suspicious if her belongings like purse, wallet and/or car keys weren't with her. I'm assuming they weren't found in the house as it would mean that she arrived home.

 

[indicolite22]

Yeah, we don't know if he has come forward or not, from what LE has released so far.

Let's say the neighbors' report was verified to be credible. If the man in the red truck did come forward, whether or not his story makes sense, what advantage do they gain at this stage by announcing anything either way? It's actually to their advantage to say nothing, as then any person that they are really looking at as a possible suspect has no information about the direction their investigation is going.

How likely is it that she was pulled over by one person and left with someone else within a short period of time? If she called someone to pick her up, her phone records would reveal it. So far only her text to her husband about going to Walmart was mentioned.

 

[Yemelyan]

For what it's worth, the scenario that pops into my head now that this thread is here in located persons is slight car accident in the road and both vehicles pull into parking lot to exchange insurance information, Jean is not feeling well ether resulting in the fender bender or on account of the stress from it. She asks to be given a ride home because she doesn't feel well enough to drive, gets dropped off somewhere a farther from the house than she can walk so sits down somewhere in hopes of recovering and doesn't.

I don't know if maybe the house is a bit of a walk from the drive or road, I don't know why the red truck driver wouldn't have come forward, maybe totally unaware. Lots of ifs and maybes that could easily be eliminated with more info but that's how it looks to me from the thread so far.

I was thinking something similar. It's unusual to "be pulled over by" another car as was stated in the news articles except in the case of a fender bender, another driver wanting to tell you about nonfunctional indicator light, or something like that. So if that's accurate, that's why I think it's in the realm of possibility her sighting with the man in the red pickup is just coincidental to her death. Perhaps after she exchanged information with this person, she called a family member or friend to take her home and this is just information we don't know yet, but LE does.

 

[Yemelyan]

How likely is it that she was pulled over by one person and left with someone else within a short period of time? If she called someone to pick her up, her phone records would reveal it. So far only her text to her husband about going to Walmart was mentioned.

Key words: the only text that was mentioned.

I'm not trying to be argumentative here but I just think there's a lot of information the public doesn't have in this situation.

 

[indicolite22]

Key words: the only text that was mentioned.

I'm not trying to be argumentative here but I just think there's a lot of information the public doesn't have in this situation.

I don't see why information about calling a relative/friend in a crucial moment would be kept secret. There's no mystery in that. I don't think the person called could deny it.

 

[Yemelyan]

I don't see why information about calling a relative/friend in a crucial moment would be kept secret. There's no mystery in that. I don't think the person called could deny it.

IMO it would be kept secret by investigators if they had reason to suspect that person of foul play. The reason LE doesn't usually release every shred of evidence they have, is so they can use the information during interrogations of potential POIs.

I don't say that it's definitely the case here, but I'm just speaking of investigations generally and offering up other possible scenarios.

 

[LadyL]

very strange circumstances here

 

[Tracey4AU]

Key words: the only text that was mentioned.

I'm not trying to be argumentative here but I just think there's a lot of information the public doesn't have in this situation.

As is almost ALWAYS the case. Agree!