TN TN - Karen Swift, 44, Dyersburg, 30 Oct 2011 - #3

[otto]

Tracking dogs could not pick up Karen's scent around the car, implying that she never got our of the car at that location. I don't know that it's "Carved in Stone" that she wasn't there if the dogs didn't pick up her scent but it is a clue. Also, Karen was a runner - if she ran in that location, looks like her trail would have still been along the highway.

If the dogs couldn't pick up her scent anywhere around the car and her body was found a couple of miles away, then it's quite likely she was dumped and her car was driven to the highway with a flat tire. Her other belongings (clothes, phone) were scattered around the area.

That really doesn't sound like a random murder.
She would have no reason to run that far (where she was found) ... more likely she ran the circular route along the houses in that small district.

 

[otto]

Here's the area map

In the below image, the red lines are the property lines and you can see the loop that Karen most likely jogged from home. I don't think she would go as far as the cemetery in the dark on Halloween.

 

[otto]

Yea don't know how reliable the tracking dogs are, should have picke up on her scent if she runs in the area. I read an article about a man who went missing the dogs pick up on his sent at his office 3 weeks latter. Not to sure about the dogs they used. I am willing to bet that because they released the body they have to be close, or it will be one of those cases, LE knows who did it but just can't prove it in a court of law.

They would have had the dogs next to the car on the highway, looking for a trail leaving the car. There was none. If they had gone to the end of the driveway, they would probably have found a scent running the loop around the houses.

 

[otto]

I know nothing about the case other than what I have read in the news media. Let’s forget the husband aspect of this for a minute. If she did leave the house in the middle of the night; why? To get meds for the sick child or maybe to meet someone, possibly? The proximity of her vehicle to her home leads me to believe she wanted to be far enough as to not be sitting in front of the house.

Her daughter was sick before she was picked up. If Karen needed to pick up medicine, she would have done it on the way home. After Karen got home with her daughter, she fell asleep right away, so she didn't need to be woken up and given medicine. If they needed medicine in the morning, she or her husband could pick it up then.

Karen may never have left of her own free will that night. Her body, car, clothes (most likely her clothes) and cell phone were left in distinctly different places. The car had a flat tire, conveniently parked a short distance from home. Who wouldn't drive home from that location on the highway with a flat ... it couldn't get that much worse in that short 1/4 mile drive. Her body was left in a place where it would never have been discovered except for the weather that week. Clothes like the ones she was wearing were found neatly folded and tucked undr a bush. The cell phone led in the direction of the river.

It sounds like the husband did it.

 

[ThoughtFox]

I know nothing about the case other than what I have read in the news media. Let’s forget the husband aspect of this for a minute. If she did leave the house in the middle of the night; why? To get meds for the sick child or maybe to meet someone, possibly? The proximity of her vehicle to her home leads me to believe she wanted to be far enough as to not be sitting in front of the house.

There's been speculation on that but she never made it to Wal Mart, which several locals have mentioned as the only place open that time on an early Sunday morning. I don't believe she was going there for the simple fact that she was the one who picked up the daughter and could have bought medicine on the way home instead. Why not wait for daylight at least?

It's hard to go back through the whole case and write a short synopsis - it's too complicated - but the main thing to remember is that the husband is the only one who said she left the house of her own volition.

Karen's brother told Nancy Grace that he believed Karen never got out of the car that night due to the dogs not picking up her scent.

 

[logcabin61]

So it had already been discussed she could have been going to Wal Mart. My only question is "why did she leave the house after midnight"? Very simple, either she left for a legitimate reason or was forced to leave. Either way with the location of the car and body the perpetrator and Karen knew each other. Let’s hope for an arrest soon.

 

[OldSteve]

Would sure like to know what going on behind the scenes in this case ...
Got to wonder if there trying to build a case for premeditated versus manslaughter....

Perhaps there was nothing found in the house to either prove she either stayed or left after dropping off her daughter...

 

[officer'swife 2010]

I really think the child was really just homesick. I remember being little and going to sleepovers and calling home at 2 am. I don't think she ever went back out that night. I was hoping an arrest would have been made!!! I can't imagine how her family is feeling right now

 

[Amster]

I really think the child was really just homesick. I remember being little and going to sleepovers and calling home at 2 am. I don't think she ever went back out that night. I was hoping an arrest would have been made!!! I can't imagine how her family is feeling right now

How old is the girl who was picked up from the sleepover?

 

[cocomod]

Here is her obituary:

Visitation tonight for Karen

http://lawrencecounty.kait8.com/news/families/66589-visitation-be-held-tonight-karen-swift

 

[stillwatersc]

Here is her obituary:

Visitation tonight for Karen

http://lawrencecounty.kait8.com/news/families/66589-visitation-be-held-tonight-karen-swift

She is survived by her husband of 22 years since September 23, 1989

That 'since...' part seems awkward. Weren't they divorced & remarried? Sounds like someone had a little bit of an attitude concerning the first divorce. JMO

 

[~n/t~]

That 'since...' part seems awkward. Weren't they divorced & remarried? Sounds like someone had a little bit of an attitude concerning the first divorce. JMO

What does "David Swift of the home" mean?

She is survived by her husband of 22 years since September 23, 1989, David Swift of the home

RIP Karen :rose:

 

[cluciano63]

What does "David Swift of the home" mean?





RIP Karen :rose:

It is just an obit way of saying of the same address as the family...and the victim.

 

[~n/t~]

It is just an obit way of saying of the same address as the family...and the victim.

oh ok thanks. Never read an obit with a spouse being mentioned and then adding "at the home". If they were married where else would he be, kwim? It sounds weird.

 

[cluciano63]

oh ok thanks. Never read an obit with a spouse being mentioned and then adding "at the home". If they were married where else would he be, kwim? It sounds weird.

Usually they say "of the family home" meaning same address...don't know why, but I see it all the time here in the US...it does sound weird, but there it is. Usually it refers to an adult child though.

 

[MagnoliaMom]

http://www.wmctv.com/story/16910422/family-mourns-murdered-dyersburg-mother-of-four

"Currently, we're not naming any suspects and will not name any until we feel it will benefit this case," said Dyer County Sheriff Jeff Box.

 

[panthera]

That 'since...' part seems awkward. Weren't they divorced & remarried? Sounds like someone had a little bit of an attitude concerning the first divorce. JMO

What is even more strange, at least in my opinion, is the statement that she passed away on December 10, 2011. Granted her remains weren't found until that time, however, why not just omit the date since it is not her date of death except perhaps for legal purposes? This also leads me to be curious who wrote the obituary.

:rose:
for Karen

 

[cluciano63]

http://www.wmctv.com/story/16910422/family-mourns-murdered-dyersburg-mother-of-four

So he is not saying there are NOT any suspects, just that they are not naming them. At least that is what I am getting, so perhaps if there is DNA, it is not from a stranger? And yet not enough on its own? JMO

 

[MagnoliaMom]

So he is not saying there are NOT any suspects, just that they are not naming them. At least that is what I am getting, so perhaps if there is DNA, it is not from a stranger? And yet not enough on its own? JMO

Sheriff Box said there would be closure and I am holding on to that hope.

Jan 27th article
http://www.wbbjtv.com/news/local/ResidentsWaitForJusticInKarenSwiftMurder-138232244.html

Sheriff Box said he expected closure soon for everyone.

The sheriff said this was a very complex investigation, and everyone would definitely understand why , and he hoped that would be soon.

Jan 26th article
http://www.kait8.com/story/16608491/karen-swift-investigation-continues-on-murdered-mothers-birthday

Action News 5 asked Box if he thought the murders would be solved and a suspect arrested when the results come back.

"I'm sure we'll have closure in this case," he said.

Box has been pretty tight lipped but these statements sound like they have enough to me.

 

[cluciano63]

Sheriff Box said there would be closure and I am holding on to that hope.

Jan 27th article
http://www.wbbjtv.com/news/local/ResidentsWaitForJusticInKarenSwiftMurder-138232244.html





Jan 26th article
http://www.kait8.com/story/16608491/karen-swift-investigation-continues-on-murdered-mothers-birthday



Box has been pretty tight lipped but these statements sound like they have enough to me.

Oh I agree that a case will be made, But if they had "enough", we would not be waiting now. LE doesn't wait once they have enough, IMO.