Found Safe TN - Mary Catherine Elizabeth Thomas, 15, Maury County, 13 March 2017 #6

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  • #501
One of the problems also, there was a long time between her being reported missing and the AA being issued.

I just checked my text convo with my sister.

The date and times are here. This was a few minutes after it came across the TV and I called my sister to see if she got it. Then she sent me a text back.

That's a lot of time between disappearing and ET's sister said the cops didn't want to issue an alert for a while because they thought she left on her own.

Also Decatur is being focused on because that is the last confirmed location tied to them and that was Monday afternoon, over 24 hours before the AA was issued.
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Oh forgot.. And my sister got it at 7:56 and I got it finally at 8:09.
 
  • #502
I wish I knew what was up with alot of the comments. I assume trolls... Those ones though...especially disturbing.

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Poor girl. Her emotions were all over the place :(
 
  • #503
It looks hike the first post on ET's IG was just 6 weeks ago?
I know teens in that age range and they are always their old deleting pictures.. seriously, my boss's daughter only has like 10 at a time.

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  • #504
What is the basis for your opinion here? I just want to dig in b/c I also thought comments were being changed. There were a few comments here that you cannot edit old IG comments and IG itself says that you can edit captions, but it would say Edited :

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My opinion is based on people's statements in the comments section on instagram. I believe that they are people who actually know her. (Under the Beauty and the Beast post, there are like 600 comments )
MOO
 
  • #505
I know teens in that age range and they are always their old deleting pictures.. seriously, my boss's daughter only has like 10 at a time.

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It was my phone, it would only go so far back.
 
  • #506
I suspect a few people who were mouthing off could be deleting their own inappropriate comments after the fact, after they realize LE and the public will be looking at the site.

If it were TC or ET deleting, it seems like they'd delete a whole lot more of them.:) The commenters sure aren't going light on them.


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You can't delete your own comment. Only the account holder can delete comments on their post.

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  • #507
What is the basis for your opinion here? I just want to dig in b/c I also thought comments were being changed. There were a few comments here that you cannot edit old IG comments and IG itself says that you can edit captions, but it would say Edited :

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Ah thank you! I see now that I can edit a post. Good to know!

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  • #508
You can't delete your own comment. Only the account holder can delete comments on their post.

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With all due respect, I am not sure about this. A little while ago today I just went in and left a comment on someone else's IG to test this and then deleted it later. All I had to do was swipe on the comment and tap the trash can icon.


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  • #509
I suspect a few people who were mouthing off could be deleting their own inappropriate comments after the fact, after they realize LE and the public will be looking at the site.

If it were TC or ET deleting, it seems like they'd delete a whole lot more of them.:) The commenters sure aren't going light on them.


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I agree with you.

I think that only someone with the account PW could delete a comment unless they themselves made the comment.

If the comments are getting deleted, it could only be:

1. ET- should be able to get IP address and location from login and find her!
2. TC - same as ET
3. LE - no reason they would delete anything
4. Original commenter - can only delete their own comments so who cares

If the photo captions are changed, IG notes them as Edited.

I think we can safely mark this issue as not valid and the result of looking at too many IG posts from them and getting comments/captions mixed up.

I know I must have gone through ET's whole IG account at least 10 times already looking for trends or any clue to how they were communicating. This post :

About a week ago, I pulled (legally/lawfully) all of the timestamp metadata and photo caption text and uploaded
to pastebin in case anyone can utilize them.

Please note: All times in the dumps are UTC. You will need to convert to local time
(UTC-6) for Central Standard Time. I think March 12 and 13th are UTC-5 due to daylight
savings.

Tad Cummins:
https://pastebin.com/dASiFhvP

Elizabeth Thomas:
https://pastebin.com/M2gHaz89

I have the full JSON output for each post (which includes likes and other comments), but haven't processed them yet. If there is an interest, let me know.

is super helpful in seeing what they posted on each day. Time to dig back into IG....
 
  • #510
The fact that he was looking for work in a semi-nearby area (Decatur, AL) is a big indicator that he is going to stay in the states and attempt to plant roots again. I think they are hunkered down somewhere in the southern states, possibly a college town. I think the Rogue is long since hidden and they are driving something else, moving about cautiously but right under our noses. And if they are having intimate relations, she is going to fall in love with him and stand by his side.

What kind of work? I can't find this in an article.


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  • #511
I asked that earlier too, but Kat wasn't on here yet to ask. Her sister would maybe know if it was the same IG account she actively used. It seems like her friends were following her there but it's not impossible they could be duped by a catfish account. Kat, do you know if this babygirl2001 IG account is one she was actively using?


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Yes that was her active one.
 
  • #512
Ah thank you! I see now that I can edit a post. Good to know!

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This was helpful. I had thought you couldn't change captions originally, but after reading others comments I began wondering if the feature had been added somewhere along the way.

Does it for sure say edited after edited. I just tried to edit a caption using these instructions but haven't yet seen it change to "edited" to reflect it. Perhaps it takes a minute.


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Yes that was her active one.
I have a question if you can answer. Have you guys talked to any Law Enforcement about expanding the Amber Alert to all states and if so, what have they said?
 
  • #515
What kind of work? I can't find this in an article.


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The article didn't say. All it said is that along with the ping in Decatur, AL, the TBI had found TC was looking for a job in Decatur, AL. Quote from the article: " Since last Monday, there have been 942 tips called into TBI about possible leads or sightings in 49 states. Of those tips 94 are still being pursued.
Police departments across the country, park rangers, businesses and many others report they are keeping their eyes open and continuing to patrol for the two.
The latest tip came from Decatur, Alabama where police say Thomas’ cell phone pinged off a cell tower.Police say Thomas and Cummins may have stopped at a motel there.
The Morgan County Sheriff’s department told News 2 they received tips that Cummins was looking for work in the area." http://wkrn.com/2017/03/24/tbi-no-cr...disappearance
The notables in this article
1. the phone that pinged in Decatur, AL was ET's phone
2. They may have stopped at a motel in Decatur, AL the first night
3. Tips were given that TC was looking for work in Decatur, AL after he abducted ET.
 
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This was helpful. I had thought you couldn't change captions originally, but after reading others comments I began wondering if the feature had been added somewhere along the way.

Does it for sure say edited after edited. I just tried to edit a caption using these instructions but haven't yet seen it change to "edited" to reflect it. Perhaps it takes a minute.


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It does say Edited, with a new timestamp.
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I think we need a post that goes through all the facts we have with sources. The same questions are asked over and over and it's because the threads are moving so quickly. It might be helpful to have a post with all the facts so people don't have to waste time looking through pages of posts for the same material and it would streamline the posts we do have so there's not so much redundancy.Edited to add, no I'm not volunteering! :)
 
  • #520
But if she did try to call for help, why would he go through the process of turning his phone on to let it ping before chucking the phones? To confirm she was indeed with him and over state lines? Hm. The fact that it was both phones that pinged there and only there, then and only then, seems completely staged, in my opinion.
That's what I said

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