Found Safe TN - Mary Catherine Elizabeth Thomas, 15, Maury County, 13 March 2017 #7

[KKearns]

It would be great if it were that easy. Perv/monsters come in all shapes, colors, sizes, genders,...

Yes they do. They also look like the nice community guy that helps the elderly people in his neighborhood and go help people in other countries.



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[indianwin2001]

Gaius - I also wondered if they weren't "fully off the grid, on their own".

I think it's plausible there is a third party contributing to their disappearance.

From what I have read just on this website, I think it's likely they have help from someone they know.

 

[KKearns]

Yeah, the physchological abuse that family members do to each other ends up causing real damage.

I myself still struggle with some things that were just verbal growing up with my brother. It is hard to get over things when they go on for years and years.

Yes, even things as a child, that might not have been really meant the way they were, can hit you forever. Then as an adult they can trigger you all your life, even from others and you never realize it is happening.

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[KKearns]

Gaius - I also wondered if they weren't "fully off the grid, on their own".

I think it's plausible there is a third party contributing to their disappearance.

Some of us have wondered that especially on light of things Kat told us last night. That presser today made me think LE might think that also.

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[indianwin2001]

Yes they do. They also look like the nice community guy that helps the elderly people in his neighborhood and go help people on other countries.


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As a retired Florida Dept. of Corrections officer of many years, this is true of a whole bunch of criminals. I was constantly amazed by how the average inmate (and it was a close custody prison) looked and acted like any average citizen.

 

[gitana1]

i don't think that's true, because the majority of people are heterosexual.
If what you said was true, that would throw stats way off. JMO

True, and i think you're right but just to point out, child predators can attack or assault kids of the same sex or both sexes and/or still have intimate relationships with people of the opposite sex. What makes a predator "attracted" to harming a child may not be linked to their adult sexuality. For example, 70% of molesters who assault boys classify themselves as heterosexual in their adult relationships. 9% say they are both. Only 8% only homosexual.

Regarding pedophiles, 21% of those who molest boys, also molest girls and 53% of those who have molested girls, also molest boys. https://www.childmolestationprevention.org/pdfs/study.pdf

 

[MCElizabethsSISTER]

Kat we saw the presser today. Is there anything new that hasn't been covered that is something you are allowed to say?

The TX sighting, did they determine it was not them or were they just not able to confirm it was them?

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Nothing new and it wasn't them

 

[gitana1]

I note that it appears this case is an active Amber Alert in Tennessee and Alabama. It can be found on the national sites but may not be active as a typical Amber Alert in other states. Doesn't each state have their own criteria?

http://www.missingkids.com/AMBER

 

[KKearns]

As a retired Florida Dept. of Corrections officer of many years, this is true of a whole bunch of criminals. I was constantly amazed by how the average inmate (and it was a close custody prison) looked and acted like any average citizen.

Yup, that is what is so scary about it, with all types of crime not just this.

There is just no doing like my mom's time could do a lot and many times you could judge a book by its cover.

On contrast, there can be people that look physically scary, you would swear they were an axe murderer, but you won't find a better human being walking the earth.

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[MCElizabethsSISTER]

I thought the sister said the information in that article was correct?

Some are some aren't. The media isn't consistent.

 

[indianwin2001]

I note that it appears this case is an active Amber Alert in Tennessee and Alabama. It can be found on the national sites but may not be active as a typical Amber Alert in other states. Doesn't each state have their own criteria?

http://www.missingkids.com/AMBER

They need to make this nationwide. I live in Tampa and have not gotten amber alert on my phone and I live very close to RT. 75. They need to make this nationwide already.

 

[jpo74]

IMO, that was the most powerful and meaningful statement of the PC. People who know more than they are sharing need to see this monster for what he is and start coming forward with information that can possibly save Elizabeth.

i agree! someone(s) are out there helping them, MOO. how much longer can they go on? the longer it takes to find them the more afraid i am for her. everyone let her down :sad:

 

[KKearns]

True, and i think you're right but just to point out, child predators can attack or assault kids of the same sex or both sexes and/or still have intimate relationships with people of the opposite sex. What makes a predator "attracted" to harming a child may not be linked to their adult sexuality. For example, 70% of molesters who assault boys classify themselves as heterosexual in their adult relationships. 9% say they are both. Only 8% only homosexual.

Regarding pedophiles, 21% of those who molest boys, also molest girls and 53% of those who have molested girls, also molest boys. https://www.childmolestationprevention.org/pdfs/study.pdf

Something about that. I used to work for some psychologists, one did the psych evals for the local Diocese, for the men that wanted to be priests.

I was surprised how many identified as heterosexual but would have sex with other men and sometimes we found out boys, because they didn't see that as breaking vows.

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[KKearns]

I note that it appears this case is an active Amber Alert in Tennessee and Alabama. It can be found on the national sites but may not be active as a typical Amber Alert in other states. Doesn't each state have their own criteria?

http://www.missingkids.com/AMBER

I think so, but I would think of the FBI or TBI asked the other states to issue it, they would. I have been trying to figure out why it hasn't gone to all other states, for two days now.

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[Deleted member 172065]

THIRD PARTY --
i feel kinda ify on that. I don't think most people would loveTad so much to go to jail for him. Again, I think it's unusual. The high profile case where a guy killed a girl's mom and young brother were found living in woods. I think it was by horseback riders...Mexico seems possible, but some say they'd stick out too much. JMO I was one of those who never thought the mom in the trunk killed herself, and was wrong.

 

[SeesSeas]

I note that it appears this case is an active Amber Alert in Tennessee and Alabama. It can be found on the national sites but may not be active as a typical Amber Alert in other states. Doesn't each state have their own criteria?

http://www.missingkids.com/AMBER

Yes, each state has its own AMBER ALERT criteria.
Here is the FDLE-described criteria for FLORIDA:
http://www.fdle.state.fl.us/cms/Amber-Plan/Amber-Alert.aspx
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Florida AMBER Alert
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To activate an AMBER alert the following five (5) criteria must be met:[FONT=&amp]

• The child must be under 18 years of age.
• There must be a clear indication of an abduction.
• The law enforcement agency's preliminary investigation must conclude that the child's life is in danger.
• There must be a detailed description of child, abductor and/or vehicle to broadcast to the public.
• The activation must be recommended by the local law enforcement agency of jurisdiction.

Activation Process:

• The local law enforcement agency will call the FDLE Missing Endangered Persons Information Clearinghouse(MEPIC) at 1-888-356-4774.
• The FDLE will work in conjunction with the local law enforcement agency of jurisdiction to determine if information is to be broadcast on a regional or statewide basis.
• The FDLE working in conjunction with the local law enforcement agency of jurisdiction will prepare information for public distribution.
• The FDLE will ensure that the information is broadcast through the Emergency Alert System, dynamic highway message signs, lottery machines, text message and email through www.missingchildrenalert.com and other resources.

[/FONT]Note: Only law enforcement agencies can request activation of an AMBER Alert. If you would like to report a missing person, please contact your local police department or sheriff’s office first, then contact MEPIC at 1-888-FL MISSING (356-4774).

 

[kdg411]

I note that it appears this case is an active Amber Alert in Tennessee and Alabama. It can be found on the national sites but may not be active as a typical Amber Alert in other states. Doesn't each state have their own criteria?

http://www.missingkids.com/AMBER

https://ojp.gov/newsroom/pdfs/amberfaq.pdf (page 2)

What are the criteria for issuing AMBER Alerts?
Each state AMBER Alert plan includes its own criteria for issuing AMBER Alerts. The PROTECT Act, passed in 2003, which established the role of AMBER Alert Coordinator within the Department of Justice, calls for the Department of Justice to issue minimum standards or guidelines for AMBER Alerts that states can adopt voluntarily.

 

[KKearns]

Yes, each state has its own AMBER ALERT criteria.
Here is the FDLE-described criteria for FLORIDA:
http://www.fdle.state.fl.us/cms/Amber-Plan/Amber-Alert.aspx
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Florida AMBER Alert
[/FONT]
To activate an AMBER alert the following five (5) criteria must be met:[FONT=&amp]

• The child must be under 18 years of age.
• There must be a clear indication of an abduction.
• The law enforcement agency's preliminary investigation must conclude that the child's life is in danger.
• There must be a detailed description of child, abductor and/or vehicle to broadcast to the public.
• The activation must be recommended by the local law enforcement agency of jurisdiction.

Well this meets all that criteria and it seems logical to me if another state, where the FBI is also involved asked, I can't see why states wouldn't do it.

I wonder if TN/TBI/FBI has asked other states.

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[msphilosopher]

They need to make this nationwide. I live in Tampa and have not gotten amber alert on my phone and I live very close to RT. 75. They need to make this nationwide already.

AGREED! I was thinking that right before I read your post.

FL needs an Amber Alert. Florida is massive so many desolate areas, nice weather for camping etc.

 

[Mom24]

I note that it appears this case is an active Amber Alert in Tennessee and Alabama. It can be found on the national sites but may not be active as a typical Amber Alert in other states. Doesn't each state have their own criteria?

http://www.missingkids.com/AMBER

I believe each state has their own criteria in determining when to use the alert, and there are some rules that are common (i.e. they have to have a vehicle description, know that there's been abduction, etc), but it's a voluntary system and it's up to the locals how far they want to "cast the net" so to speak, to what level other states issue the AA.