Found Safe TN - MCET, 15, Abducted by Teacher, in Maury County, 13 March 2017 #16 *ARREST*

[Deleted member 278]

A local attorney already did. He put a statement out before TC was even found. It was so repulsive, he retracted it. My guess, he was hoping to make a name for himself and lighten the C family savings in the process, but he made it quite well known he's available.

He was also reported to the Bar Association for his comment.

 

[Whiteorchids]

She was almost crying.

I wonder if TC will shed a few tears today?

 

[Karinna]

It takes a while to negotiate a plea deal and get everyone signed off, so it almost never happens at an initial arraignment. There are a lot of behind the scenes boxes to check!

Sorry i should of been more specific. I didn't mean at the arraignment. From previous following of cases i learned that usually at arraignment there is a NG plea, and that allows lawyers to prepare for a Trial. Eventually after some time, if a plea deal is on the table & accepted then the case doesn't go through to Trial.

 

[WideOpen]

Yes, and honestly...it goes without saying that all our posts (apart from quoted facts) are our opinions. But strongly worded opinions can still hurt the people who might be reading them, especially if those come across as pronouncements about flaws in their character or presumed family dynamic and history. If people are already reeling from something a loved one did, to me it seems an unnecessary adding of salt to a gaping wound. IMHO. Lots of people's lives have been turned upside down, here. And it's not necessarily anyone's fault but the actual perpetrator--TC.

I am not picking on this post in particular but to those who are minimizing or giving their opinions on the interview with TC sister.
IMO, it is downright in poor taste for her to have even done the interview. Maybe she is making poor choices as well.
To me, the main point is we have a 15 year old child who has already been victimized by adults who were supposed to protect and care for her. WTH does it matter what TC sister has to say, unless it is to garner sympathy for her family (or TC). We know that the media likes to sensationalize these crimes but 99 times of 100 the family has the sense to go PRIVATE.

JMO

 

[Considering]

I don't see how she could concentrate, I know I couldn't. IMO.

I don't think she's ready for school, either. My post was in response to posts regarding her going back into a school.

 

[JLSChook]

I was going to ask if there is a link to TC's sister's interview, but after reading all the posts (and the Daily Mail), I think I've seen enough..

IMO, it sounds like the sis believes his "I was trying to keep her safe" BS.

At least she said what he did was wrong and should pay for it. That's more than we usually get from the families of criminals.

 

[Lilibet]

I understand what you are saying and I completely respect your opinion. I do not see experiencing codependency a character flaw. To have his actions explained away by him and believed before the kidnapping...i can't see how there isn't something completely unhealthy about is relationships. That comes back to him. Whatever they are experiencing is a result of him and how he manipulated people close to. Him. IMO, they can't be blamed for any off it. With that said, I still think there must be unhealthy dynamics in his family, resulting from his manipulation.

Basically, I don't see anything wrong with pointing it out if that's ones opinion. I respect that you disagree.

You must have watched a different interview. In no way did I see TC's sister believing or promoting his explanation. We don't know who manipulated her into appearing on "Today"...TC or NBC or both or none. And we don't know what was edited out. We also don't know what the family dynamics is, so I agree that an uninformed opinion expressed by total strangers can add unnecessary pain to an already awful situation. Why do it? (Rhetorical question)
JMO

 

[Bently]

BBM - Would those filters have numbers? I am not familiar with them and really hadn't thought of that either.

Yes, as evidence they do, (assuming filters taken from LE doing forensic vacuuming of areas of interest for evidence) as shown in the search warrant seizure notice for evidence for the multiple filters.

 

[Kapua]

I was going to ask if there is a link to TC's sister's interview, but after reading all the posts (and the Daily Mail), I think I've seen enough..

IMO, it sounds like the sis believes his "I was trying to keep her safe" BS.

At least she said what he did was wrong and should pay for it. That's more than we usually get from the families of criminals.

I won't be reading the Daily Mail again. The content I read/watched two days ago is on par with the National Enquirer. Complete rubbish. IMHO.

:cow:

 

[white rabbit]

what about this. I've been so consumed with the 'over 12 can choose to leave willingly' crap I didn't do enough research. why can't they charge him with this? fits the criteria, no? and it's a MUCH more serious charge than what's currently on the complaint.

http://statelaws.findlaw.com/tennessee-law/tennessee-rape-and-sexual-assault-laws.html

Statutory Rape by an Authority Figure - Victim is 13-17 years old and defendant is at least 4 years older and the defendant had a position of trust, supervision, or discipline by legal, professional, or occupational status, or had parental or custodial authority over the child and used their status to have sex with the child.

 

[blue22]

You must have watched a different interview. In no way did I see TC's sister believing or promoting his explanation. We don't know who manipulated her into appearing on "Today"...TC or NBC or both or none. And we don't know what was edited out. We also don't know what the family dynamics is, so I agree that an uninformed opinion expressed by total strangers can add unnecessary pain to an already awful situation. Why do it? (Rhetorical question)
JMO

Watched the same interview. I agree to disagree. Respectfully.

 

[BIC]

I was going to ask if there is a link to TC's sister's interview, but after reading all the posts (and the Daily Mail), I think I've seen enough..

IMO, it sounds like the sis believes his "I was trying to keep her safe" BS.

At least she said what he did was wrong and should pay for it. That's more than we usually get from the families of criminals.

Maybe you should watch the interview yourself, you may actually come to your own conclusion. IMO

 

[Gardenista]

I was going to ask if there is a link to TC's sister's interview, but after reading all the posts (and the Daily Mail), I think I've seen enough..

IMO, it sounds like the sis believes his "I was trying to keep her safe" BS.

At least she said what he did was wrong and should pay for it. That's more than we usually get from the families of criminals.

Looked like it to me. Not even the tiniest bit of incredulity, disgust or an eye roll when she made that comment.

 

[Mountain_Kat]

I find it incredible that now he'd like to have his family back. He sure didn't spare one thought for them while he was writing secret love letters to a child, or leaving his wife stranded without her vehicle, or forcing his wife into a position of public shame, or abducting another man's underage daughter and doing God knows what with her while on the run.

He wants his family back?! :boohoo:

 

[Pamela_Brewer]

BBM - Would those filters have numbers? I am not familiar with them and really hadn't thought of that either.

I have no clue! Good thought! The numbers would probably give us a clue as to what they went to.
Moo

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[Mountain_Kat]

Man, people sure are disposable to this guy.

 

[whiteballet]

If TC's sister doesn't buy his explanation then that's even more reason not to relay it to a broad audience. It serves no one but TC, certainly not ET.

I do feel that victims and family members on both sides are often scrutinized to an unfair degree.
For example I thought some people were too harsh on JC's interview, especially given that it was probably meant to flush TC out of hiding. So I don't blame TC's sister for people latching on to the most sensational detail and taking it out of context. But she doesn't need to be talking to the press at all, and if she decided to do so, she should have been more cognizant of the effect her words could have.

 

[gitana1]

Oh I literally cannot with this "keeping her safe" mess.

Gosh. Me either. And I'm sorry but I'm not buying the, "I know he did wrong but HE says..." shtick.

As an attorney, this smacks clearly of a defense tactic to get his story out there to influence public opinion.


She had no need to go on tv and report his defense. All she had to do is issue a simple statement that, "I love my brother and will try to support him but what he did was wrong. Period. And he has to face the consequences. I wish ET well and am sickened that this happened."


I'm angry about that interview.

Humm ... "silly hormone stuff..." What is that? Does Mr. Tad Cummins have some silly hormone stuff, possibly?

Maybe when he was 15. Otherwise, no. Clearly, no.


Man I love these subtle attempts to mitigate this predator's behavior.

Here to vent about the interview with TC's sister. Does he seriously think anyone would believe his lame excuse "she wanted to run away and I took her so she would be safe" and in the meantime, he refilled his Cialis, bought KY, slept in a queen size bed in motel rooms and "had loud sex" (according to the commune)! I can't believe he's blaming the victim - "she made me do it". Of course, ole Tad doesn't know that the world knows a lot of what he's done. He's probably thinking he can convince his sister to campaign on his behalf publically and to help him get his family back. He'd be better served to be repentant and keep his mouth shut.

Oh I'm sure he was very aware of what people were saying when they took off. He's parroting that. There were several posts on here as well suggesting maybe he took her to protect her from abuse. It appalled me then.


I have no doubt that while ET was deprived of access to the outside world, TC was not.

what about this. I've been so consumed with the 'over 12 can choose to leave willingly' crap I didn't do enough research. why can't they charge him with this? fits the criteria, no? and it's a MUCH more serious charge than what's currently on the complaint.

http://statelaws.findlaw.com/tennessee-law/tennessee-rape-and-sexual-assault-laws.html

Statutory Rape by an Authority Figure - Victim is 13-17 years old and defendant is at least 4 years older and the defendant had a position of trust, supervision, or discipline by legal, professional, or occupational status, or had parental or custodial authority over the child and used their status to have sex with the child.

They can and I believe they will. I just posted something about the statement that 12 year olds can leave their families to be flat wrong. At least based on the clear TN law. Again, it appears they are simply referring to the law that increases the possible sentences- the severity of the charge- when the person taken is under 13.

A caveat, I don't practice TN law. It's possible that there is case law that further clarifies or interprets the statute, and it might, for example, clarify that, regardless as to whether the charge is kidnapping, aggravated kidnapping or especially aggravated kidnapping, it is considered coercion or fraud when a child under 13 goes off with an adult, even if the kid says they want to go or asks an adult to take them, simply due to their young age or something.


However, I'm basing my analysis on the fact that the articles cite to the statute, which is clear, and they aren't referring to any case law.


Further, statements like that by DAs are not unusual. DA's are politicians and they want to be seen as doing things to further the safety of their county.


Regardless, case law or no, the law is clear. And it is contrary to the idea that a 13 year old can decide to leave their family. Harboring a runaway is a TN misdemeanor and wouldn't exist if a teen could simply run off with an adult. http://law.justia.com/codes/tennessee/2014/title-39/chapter-15/part-4/section-39-15-414


Other posters cited laws about the authority of a parent over their child until age 18.


I have yet to see one thing that shows that kids can simply take off and their parents have no recourse.

 

[4SAM]

We shouldn't worry too much, I am sure someone in prison will also tell TC that they will keep him safe....LOL

 

[stormymama]

Agreed. I am taking the interview with the commune residents with a grain of salt, tabloid sensationalism. Granted it could all be true but Im not taking it as gospel at this point.

eta: not sure where the quote went. I was referring to Daily mail