Found Safe TN - MCET, 15, Abducted by Teacher, in Maury County, 13 March 2017 #17 *ARREST*

[Mom24]

Sorry I was saying she was reportedly rebellious to the school and LE authorities and her father denying things and not turning over her phone. That's why IMO possible she wouldn't talk if only he took off.

Ohhh...gotcha!

 

[Irishboy]

Man Who Cracked Missing Student and Teacher Case Says Teen 'Looked Depressed'

http://www.insideedition.com/headli...t-and-teacher-case-says-teen-looked-depressed

"Barry said he hardly had any interaction with the teenager, saying 'she looked depressed.'"

 

[Mom24]

BBM I agree with you! This was not an affair, this was so much more and much worse.

Look, JC herself said they called ET their third daughter. Okay, so if he slept with your other two daughters at the age of 15, what would your reaction be? Like others have said, I think she's disconnected from the facts because she if she can blame the child, she can take him back. I guess I'd tell JC that if your husband is at any time intimate with anyone else it's HIS fault. That he was intimate with a child makes him a rapist, again wholly HIS fault. Because unfortunately JC is sitting there trying to figure out what's wrong with her, why she wasn't enough and it isn't about her. There's nothing wrong with JC, unfortunately her husband is a pedophile and serial rapist. Not her fault and nothing she could have done would have made this any different. Move on, because this man will continue to drag you down to his level.

 

[Mom24]

JC interview snip from Inside Edition. This will get your blood boiling! He told his sister it took ET to "keep her safe" and he admits to his wife he slept with her! And now he loves his wife and is sooooo sorry.

http://www.insideedition.com/headli...pt-with-teenage-student-asked-for-forgiveness

He obviously doesn't know people in his life are comparing notes. His lies are catching up to him.

 

[LostOldUserName]

[FONT=&amp][/FONT]"I said, 'Well, did you sleep with her?' And he said, 'Yes I did,'"
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I'm angry. This isn't the right question. He didn't "sleep with" a fifteen year old. He raped her. [FONT=&amp][/FONT]

I agree with you 100% but I am glad she worded it the way she did. Jail phone calls are recorded. He has sunk his own ship. Had she worded saying did you rape her you can almost bet he would have said no.

 

[Vedder]

On the off chance JC ever reads this, I have to say I'm sorry but also thank you. You've been hurt, you've been betrayed, and I am so glad you are not giving him any second chances. You and your family deserve better than Tad Cummins.

This is exactly what he needs - no sympathy, no forgiveness, no second chances. Maybe when he realizes he has nothing left to go back to, he'll give up and plead guilty.

I hope she sticks to her guns!

 

[JerseyGirl]

Tad Cummins' Wife: He Told Me He Slept With Teenage Student, Asked for Forgiveness

https://www.yahoo.com/news/tad-cummins-apos-wife-told-152800636.html

Why is this coming out now? Why didn't she come forward with this info in the other EARLIER interviews!?!?!??!

EDIT: Oh wait, he called her from jail to tell her this??

 

[Bently]

Tad Cummins' Wife: He Told Me He Slept With Teenage Student, Asked for Forgiveness

https://www.yahoo.com/news/tad-cummins-apos-wife-told-152800636.html

" "I said, 'Well, did you sleep with her?' And he said,'YesI did,'" Jillsaid inan exclusiveinterview with Inside Edition's Diane McInerney. "And I didn't want any details, but I knew the truth. I just wantedto hear itfrom him to me."

Defense atty interpretation... :cow: during trial...yep, he slept near and with her to protect her, not have sex with her"

Wish she had asked "did you have sex with her" iykwim.. otherwise a Clinton spin defense option.. that sleeping together is not sex.

" He continues to call her from jail, Jill Cummins said, but she won't pick up the phone."

Umm, go ahead dear and answer the phone to have him answer and get the legal lingo on tape as an affirmative/confession that he took her across state lines for the purpose of sex

 

[Mom24]

Why is this coming out now? Why didn't she come forward with this info in the other EARLIER interviews!?!?!??!

EDIT: Oh wait, he called her from jail to tell her this??

Now that she's gotten some of the truth, she should change her phone number. Otherwise he's going to continue to harass her. She owes him nothing. Nothing. God, someone needs to do a better job empowering the women in his life.

 

[Kapua]

Interview on Inside Edition with JC

https://www.yahoo.com/news/tad-cummins-apos-wife-told-152800636.html

From this story:

[FONT=&]"I said, 'Well, did you sleep with her?' And he said, 'Yes I did,'" Jill said in an exclusive interview with Inside Edition's Diane McInerney. "And I didn't want any details, but I knew the truth. I just wanted to hear it from him to me."

[/FONT][FONT=&]On the phone call, he asked his wife for forgiveness, Jill said.
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[FONT=&]"It was very hard to hear his voice after all this time not knowing if I was going to hear it again," she said. "But he told me he was sorry. He told me he loved me and to please forgive him.”
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[FONT=&]But Jill told him she couldn’t say “I love you” back to him.
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[FONT=&]“I of course went into a rage of, ‘Do you know what you've done to me? Do you know what you've done to your girls and your grandchildren?’ He pretty much just over and over said, ‘I'm sorry,’” she said.
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[FONT=&]He continues to call her from jail, Jill Cummins said, but she won't pick up the phone.
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[FONT=&]“I won’t let him hurt me like that again," she said. "I will not let him betray me like that again. I won’t give him the opportunity, ever again."

The clip ends with some sensationalist crap about "Tune in to hear his daughter speak. Will she forgive him" or something like that.[/FONT]

Thanks for the summary!

Good for her!

I am not going to berate this poor woman for her choice of words. She gave 31 years of her life to this man, and her feelings of betrayal and rage are more than justified. He hurt, betrayed, and publicly humiliated her, big time, and he thinks he can persuade her to take him back. :furious:

It will take a while for JC's life to get back on track. She will probably struggle financially. She may lose the family home. It will not be an easy road.

 

[Vedder]

[FONT=&][/FONT]"I said, 'Well, did you sleep with her?' And he said, 'Yes I did,'"
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I'm angry. This isn't the right question. He didn't "sleep with" a fifteen year old. He raped her. [FONT=&][/FONT]

She's handling it / dealing with it in her own way. I hope she continues to not take his calls.

 

[bestill]

He obviously doesn't know people in his life are comparing notes. His lies are catching up to him.

Yes, and I bet if ET called or contacted him he would "love her and want her to wait on him" too. I'm sure he doesn't know that all of this is coming out! Probably a good thing for everyone to be talking to him because once lawyered up he'll be quiet. Wonder how many calls this guy gets a day?

I really hope that ET has no idea all of this going on. I find it humiliating! It's like she's collateral damage he can't separate himself from fast enough.

 

[Kapua]

" "I said, 'Well, did you sleep with her?' And he said,'YesI did,'" Jillsaid inan exclusiveinterview with Inside Edition's Diane McInerney. "And I didn't want any details, but I knew the truth. I just wantedto hear itfrom him to me."

Defense atty interpretation... :cow: during trial...yep, he slept near and with her to protect her, not have sex with her"

Wish she had asked "did you have sex with her" iykwim.. otherwise a Clinton spin defense option.. that sleeping together is not sex.

" He continues to call her from jail, Jill Cummins said, but she won't pick up the phone."

Umm, go ahead dear and answer the phone to have him answer and get the legal lingo on tape as an affirmative/confession that he took her across state lines for the purpose of sex

I don't think that will be necessary given what he purchased at the OKC Walmart. :cow:

 

[Bently]

A few things. To begin with, the school didn't step back because they hadn't fully stepped in. They were bound by law to notify her father as soon as they were notified. Not the next day, or the week after, or two weeks after, but that day. That's educational law in every state, bound by law to report incidences to the parents. No ifs, ands or buts.



Now it appears that LE went to the home of ET for the purpose of a criminal complaint.



Something about how that went down is making it sound like someone went to LE to report something much bigger than a kiss. Something big happened, TC knew this wasn't something he could explain away and that's what really drove him to grab ET ( a potential witness) and run. I've danced around this in a few posts, but I'm going to be real blunt here. I think he abducted ET because she could testify against him, I think he planned on going to Mexico and I think he planned on going alone. I have every confidence that had they not been found, ET wouldn't have been alive much longer. You don't bring a gun unless you plan to use it, on someone. I'm fully convinced TC doesn't have the capacity to love anyone, look at what he did to a woman who devoted 31 years of her life to him, look what he did to his children and his grandchildren. Look and listen to the pain in his sister's voice as she's trying to make rational sense out of all of this. He didn't love ET, he needed her to disappear with him and he needed it to look like this was two star crossed lovers and if he got his jollies along the way, so much the better. I really mean it when I say what is going to come out at his trial is going to make our jaws hit the floor. If he was going to Mexico, why head north to an isolated area? Because like all criminals he was taking her to a secondary location. I can't being to express how relieved I am she was found.

I missed the link on the fact given above that LE went to house to take the complaint.

Does anyone have?

 

[Mountain_Kat]

Tad Cummins' Wife: He Told Me He Slept With Teenage Student, Asked for Forgiveness

https://www.yahoo.com/news/tad-cummins-apos-wife-told-152800636.html

Oh :sick:

Praying for guidance and peace for both Jill Cummins and ET. So many victims of this man. What a complete he is !

 

[MsArk]

Thanks for the summary!

Good for her!

I am not going to berate this poor woman for her choice of words. She gave 31 years of her life to this man, and her feelings of betrayal and rage are more than justified. He hurt, betrayed, and publicly humiliated her, big time, and he thinks he can persuade her to take him back. :furious:

It will take a while for JC's life to get back on track. She will probably struggle financially. She may lose the family home. It will not be an easy road.

Thank you! There is no reason to pick apart her words to death. Her world crumbled weeks ago realizing her life was essentially a lie.

She too has experienced extreme trauma.. It will take years for her to come to terms with TC's lies and deceit. We often hear of spouses leaving for another woman/man but she knows this is in a whole other dimension. This is sexual assault on a minor. We all know what TC did and are sickened by it. Imagine how JC feels.....

Based on my experience with something similar after being married for 23 years (nothing illegal but close to equally bizarre) she needs her friends and family to close rank. She is still in the shock phase.... no where close to beginning to heal.

Let's give her a break. She might have known TC was acting strange or distant but I would bet anything she absolutely had no idea what was really going on. I'm sure TC told her the initial kiss was either not true or blown out of proportion. He most likely has been lying to her for years and is really good at it.

The fallout of TC's actions will reach well beyond JC. It is touching every single area of her life. She is obviously very embarrassed but beyond that she is likely feeling shame which is the worst part of it.

It was probably way to early to speak out but I'm sure she wanted it on the record that she is not speaking with him nor will she take him back. She is trying to distance herself as best she can.

Unless I hear otherwise, I place none of TC's crime on her shoulders. I chose to be sympathetic to JC. I know a little about what she is experiencing.

ETA--- JMO

 

[JerseyGirl]

I missed the link on the fact given above that LE went to house to take the complaint.

Does anyone have?

https://mgtvwkrn.files.wordpress.com/2017/03/thomas-packet-to-media.pdf

1st page, the February 6th letter from AT's attorney to the Superintendent of School states:

Mr. Thomas was informed by law enforcement on Tuesday, January 31, 2017 of these allegations.

 

[Kapua]

And Jill... Change your number and/or block his.

 

[Bravo]

Kudos to JC. I am sure she processing and going thru all the stages of grief. Given her marriage/life has come to an abrupt end as she knew it. I don't doubt TC is trying to woo/groom his wife/family back into his den. I pray once her anger settles she sticks to it. If this gets to Trial TC and Defense are going to want her in their corner. Oh and of course TC is going to want somebody to fund his canteen account while in Prison lol.

 

[Deleted member 172065]

I Just don't think this is a "Devil vs Angel situation.
http://www.crimeonline.com/2017/04/...rrified-of-her-mother-shes-a-horrible-person/

"The attorney for Elizabeth’s father Anthony Thomas appeared on “Crime Stories with Nancy Grace,” and reiterated that Kimberly Thomas is a negative presence in Elizabeth’s life."

“She’s a horrible person,” Whatley said. “We can’t stand her.”

"Corey Ricci, the lawyer who filed the divorce complaint and the restraining order request for Anthony Thomas, also discussed the case on “Crime Stories with Nancy Grace.”

"Thomas “made up his mind about filing for divorce a long time ago” but didn’t have the money necessary for the fight. But with Tad Cummins’ kidnapping of his daughter, he decided he could not delay the divorce any longer."

“It became all the more urgent to do it when Elizabeth returned,” the attorney said."

“One of the biggest concerns he had when Elizabeth returned was that the mother, Ms. Thomas, would take to the media again and start talking,” Ricci continued. “If [Elizabeth] has any exposure to her mother, it’s going to cause serious problems.”

I find it interesting to say the least, that dad didn't get the RO before ET's kidnapping. If someone was "stalking" my child, I would have immediately obtained an order of protection. Ditto for the divorce. ( How did he "decide" to be able to afford it now, when he states he couldn't before?).

Color me skeptical for suspecting some of this was designed to prevent an attempt by mom to claim any share in financial matters that might result from lawsuits.

Did ET and her siblings receive any type of counselling prior to the abduction? We know the "stalking" went unaddressed, the divorce was "un-affordable" (until now), and problems persisted for ET, both at home, and at school. I have to ask myself how come these matters became imperative only now?

<modsnip>, but we really don't know what went down, for all those many years they co-parented these children. I am finding some of these interviews Dad gave somewhat exploitive. It never seems to end, for this kid.

Now I am thinking that I don't think my dad even realized mom could be mean. He wasn't much of a talker... Men sometimes look up to the wife to know how to raise kids, and they can feel clueless.
In this case I'd give MCet's dad the benefit of the doubt since he had taken over raising of the kids before this all happened. If he showed up just now it would be much more suspicious. Also he didn't have to be so outspoken about her being missing.
About the divorce, sometimes you spend your money on other needs, but this would be a definite catalyst to come up with the funds and split the legal ties. So I'm going with give him the benefit of the doubt.


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