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I don’t think we’ve heard more on that but I imagine he just left it behind beforehand. Easy to do, sober or otherwise.Was the room key story debunked?
I don’t think we’ve heard more on that but I imagine he just left it behind beforehand. Easy to do, sober or otherwise.Was the room key story debunked?
I think that just brings up more liability issues, and would be difficult to implement.Each mega bar should have a "sober" "bounced" room to accommodate those they eject from the bar for being "over-served" keeping them for say 60 minutes. As opposed to ejecting them back alley or side street. As this evolves people become more responsible. Something like this even saving one life is something
As soon as I heard about this story and where he was last spotted, I said he was in the river. Unfortunately, the Cumberland River is large with a fast current. I believe it will take weeks to find him and it will be because he washed ashore many miles away. I do hope I am wrong, but that is my belief.I don’t know why men gravitate to water while drunk but Im Dutch and lived most of my life in Amsterdam. We had / have so many drownings every year mostly tourists and expats. All men. Whenever a man was missing I knew hes in water and I see this phenomenon in other countries as well.
Once I was in a bar by the water and young expat gone missing while going to the bathroom and never came back. He was found almost 2 weeks later in water. Probably gone to the bathroom by the water because the bar I was at was notorious for busy bathrooms.
I guess one reason is as some of you mentioned going to pee in the water.
Im adding some article about that issue as to why so many young men die in water.
I hope that Riley will be found safe but I do believe he is in the water.
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Why do so many men die in Amsterdam’s canals?
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I just google street walked his route, he walked a LONG way, in my opinion, as drunk as he appeared. I would have long given up and laid down under a tree for some rest.it looks like, in my opinion, that he was moving right along as he covered what seems to be a little more then a block in 5 minutes
I wish he'd done that. mooI just google street walked his route, he walked a LONG way, in my opinion, as drunk as he appeared. I would have long given up and laid down under a tree for some rest.
Agree, and completely bewildered at all the people who saw him, both walking, driving etc that didn't call 911 and report for general welfare tbh.No beat cops out on that street late at night? I find that odd. If a cop was available he could have noticed and helped.
Crazy to me that it's 21 years old in the States, not cos I don't think it's reasonable but because its not what I knowBut what if they are all high and intoxicated, what happens then? Do people assign a sober person to babysit a group of individuals who have consumed tons of alcohol? Logistics would suggest it doesn't work. It would be like herding cats.
I wonder about the legal drinking age sometimes and how it seems to coincide with a time in a young adult's life where they are officially independent, away from home in new setting, meeting new people and everything feels exciting and new. Up until they turn 21 it's illegal to drink so it stand to reason that the time they've officially become an adult is the time they also overindulge.
I live in Chicago. This is exactly like Inaki Bascaran. 31 October 2021. Also a thread on WS. So sad all over again. I pray it's a different outcome this time, but I fear not, as more time passes. JMO.Bryce Borca vibes all over again. Sounds like similar situation, imo. BB has a thread on WS
More liability than is already there? A well established capacity limit, with well established waiting period before turning these "over-served" kids out into alleys and side streets is needed. Ask this kid's parents what they thinkI think that just brings up more liability issues, and would be difficult to implement.
Gotta disagree. This happens in every country in the developed world where bars are located near water. I’ve personally witnessed some close calls first hand.There are cases like this all over the country and there have been for years, but yet the go to is “these men are leaving bars, drunk, and walking into water“ are you kidding me? When are we gonna open to our eyes to the fact that the probability that there could be a group targeting these young Caucasian males across the country is extremely high at this point. Let’s open our eyes here folks if this were women we would call it what it is. MOO IMO
In my opinion, the likelihood of finding Riley alive after 6 days missing is zero percent, sorry to say.
Right now their liability extends to not over serving. To have some special room where bar workers are responsible for people’s well being while intoxicated, would increase that liability and potentially, the danger to employees.More liability than is already there? A well established capacity limit, with well established waiting period before turning these "over-served" kids out into alleys and side streets is needed. Ask this kid's parents what they think
It's so hard sometimes when we know that the monsters live between us.
When are we gonna open to our eyes to the fact that the probability that there could be a group targeting these young Caucasian males across the country
You can't legally hold someone against their will. If they want to go the establishment can't make anyone stay anywhere. It might be a nice option, say if they wanted to go into one of these rooms, but if they're not properly manned then they could turn into SA or fight rooms? What do you do when two people are being belligerent and need to split up while they're already in a sober room? I think it's actually a great idea in theory, just maybe not in practice. But maybe if perfected?? My real concern is false imprisonment or confinement, since these individuals are intoxicated I believe it would be hard to prove they consented to the confinement at any rate.More liability than is already there? A well established capacity limit, with well established waiting period before turning these "over-served" kids out into alleys and side streets is needed. Ask this kid's parents what they think