GUILTY TN - SLP, 14, found alive, Madisonville, Monroe County, 13 Jan 2019 #6 *ARRESTS*

[human]

Sorry but I will say it again. *Adopto-dad* molested her her entire life pretty much but he has ONE charge and it took a video that they could not ignore....

I wonder if we would even know about it otherwise....

Truly, think about that. She KNEW it... he likely did too.. we are apt to never see that.

just thoughts...

On here I have seen people charged with a couple of,things and then when it all comes down, they get a boatlaod of more charges.

The Turpin case where they abused their 13 children is such an example. They started out with a few charges and then more were added

 

[Rosiebones]

I am not particularly upset by the one count of SA for RP since it is definitely provable and carries essentially a life sentence if given without parole He is 41 so any sentence of 40 to 60 years is life. So it doesn't make any difference if he had 10 more SAs charged they would run concurrently and if they could be proven the length would be the same

I want to see animal cruelty, domestic violence and any other charges pertaining to other family members, if they can be proven, just to let him know he can't get away with that behavior.

 

[Deleted member 158085]

On here I have seen people charged with a couple of,things and then when it all comes down, they get a boatlaod of more charges.

The Turpin case where they abused their 13 children is such an example. They started out with a few charges and then more were added

I sure hope so. RP needs to go away forever.

 

[ilovechili]

On here I have seen people charged with a couple of,things and then when it all comes down, they get a boatlaod of more charges.

The Turpin case where they abused their 13 children is such an example. They started out with a few charges and then more were added

Thank you. I have to remind myself that there is time to file charges and things do not always happen immediately. Yet when it is an abused child that needs to never have to go back to the abuser/home, maybe even mother in this case, it is not always easy to understand. And other children as well. I did not follow that case but have seen references to it and think I saw a bit on TV.

I will say though it is also part of the problem--the time it takes. At least RJP has one charge and one high bond that was filed quickly because of the video proof. If not, she may have been sent home and what would happen to her then?

I get the system rolls slowly and charges and evidence take time. However, protection in some cases is needed in the meantime immediately and needed big time... But if one cannot prove it does one receive it...

 

[kshultz06082]

Something said when the attempt was to have him out and not held, that the prosecutor used. I don't think we have any detail and it was news to me of such science. Then another "media


The very same points that keep me from deciding.

We get this *tidbit* about this but no experts weighing in nor details about how they know this.

Right or wrong, I have a feeling SP is not down on him when they interview her. Of course, she is a minor and he could have played her, groomed her, etc. I get that viewpoint as well. And can see the defense for believing that, very clearly. And very possibly quite true.

If this man saved her, a big IF I understand (but again there are degrees), and did nothing to harm her but did what he could to help her and ensure he thought he was covered, and she was covered and daddy was arrested before he would give her up and took his own chances to keep that promise, and she was safe, and he is jailed because of it now, prosecuted but if he never harmed her, good luck in the future to anyone ever stepping in to save anyone ever or believing anyone ever will.

On the other hand, if he had an evil intent from the beginning, then he deserves everything they can throw at him.

But they haven't charged such things... Not that they couldn't still do so if there is enough evidence. So far, apparently they are thinking twice about it...

And I think everyone knows my opinion of people who believe the system works so well on behalf of children or anyone or is always perfect. It is not. I have never seen one yet that is. In my lifetime anyhow. I do understand the Pollyanna type of need to believe that though.

I have said it many times. *Daddy* has ONE charge. And it took a video. ONE charge. Why????

I wholeheartedly agree with you! If at some point there is proof, then yes, fry him (BR). But right now with the info given, I'm just not convinced he had perverted intentions. If true that mom was told about daddy dearest and did nothing, then this stranger is the only one besides SP who made any attempt to get this child out of the horrible home life.

As for proof of having had sexual relations in the past few days, I am unaware of anything that can show that someone had sex recently UNLESS there was semen present. If that was the case, I absolutely think the prosecutor would have made that very clear. If it was there and the DNA was tested and determined to be BR's, I believe there would be many more charges and stronger charges. And he would deserve them.

 

[kshultz06082]

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[ilovechili]

This is actually the shocking part - that children in her situation don't really have a way out, only if they are very lucky, police believes them AND has other proof. Let's say she would have managed to get to a hospital all alone after another traumatizing rape that left her devastated without taking a shower and having a rape kit done - that would have been proof. But she was very isolated, how could she have gotten to a hospital all by herself, plus right after being raped, right after being traumatized as well. 14 years old, all alone.

Ok, she could have gone to the police without taking a shower and they could have taken it from there, but all alone, after just being traumatized again, and apparently she didn't trust local police. Would also make sense that the step-monster told her the police would never believe her anyway. Or told her that he knows people there (and maybe told her the same about police where they lived before they moved to the farm).

So yes, he destroyed her, she will never have a happy life, happy days hopefully, but never a happy life. And yes, he only has one charge. And that's because of a video that some other predator asked her to make. I don't even know what to say, the world is a horrible place ... Especially if you are a child or a woman.

Absolutely every word you have said here Miya is so right on! I agree with every word. She cannot drive or survive on her own, she is not even old enough to work, why do runaways end up in an even worse situation most of the time when that young? Most know the answer to that. She cannot meet a boy at school and try to stay at his house and with his folks. Or even a friend. Or teacher or guidance counselor. I suspect she may have tried to reach out at her former school but now she is being "home schooled" and isolated. She cannot get herself as you stated to a hospital at the right time for the right test by herself. Hey mom, your husband just SA me, want to take me in? Yah right. And in the meantime she is home and isolated. If there was no internet nor cell phones, she would likely have never found an escape in her case.

She probably from the age of 4 at least was told the power RJP had by RJP himself, whether true or false of what he told her. And he probably backed that up by showing examples if she ever even thought of getting help or telling someone or showed him one bit of resistance or attitude.

I get why people think the system works but I think they miss that it does not for some of these very reasons. Or can be far too slow and imperfect. Most of the time as well, the monster is out on bond the very next working day. Imagine what that looks like to a child.

 

[ilovechili]

I wholeheartedly agree with you! If at some point there is proof, then yes, fry him (BR). But right now with the info given, I'm just not convinced he had perverted intentions. If true that mom was told about daddy dearest and did nothing, then this stranger is the only one besides SP who made any attempt to get this child out of the horrible home life.

As for proof of having had sexual relations in the past few days, I am unaware of anything that can show that someone had sex recently UNLESS there was semen present. If that was the case, I absolutely think the prosecutor would have made that very clear. If it was there and the DNA was tested and determined to be BR's, I believe there would be many more charges and stronger charges. And he would deserve them.

I wholeheartedly agree with you as well. Maybe there is a new science but I have never heard of it. Clearly, they do not know it relates to him thus far. If this is true then it needs to be publicized so children and rape victims know that if *adopto-dad* or anyone molests them or rapes them, even days later it can be proven. I certainly missed it--I like you would have thought if one showered, urinated, etc., proof gone. That is what I have always been led to believe. What hope that would provide and far more coming forward as they first are traumatized and shower and then told too late for proof. Far more prosecutions as well then.

On the other hand, we hear of all of these non-tested rape kits and years and years of back log so I suppose it would get even worse.

If BR is evil and his intents were evil, then fry him. If not, then I hope they look at the overall facts/case, intents and circumstances and do the appropriate thing.

They know more than we do I assume. If they know something we do not, and it applies to him and shows such an intent, then no problem. Fry him.

RJP I have no problem with deciding what I think of this monster. Convicted and evil and guilty in my mind. I doubt much can change my mind on that one.

 

[Rosiebones]

I have had a problem from the beginning with the VERBAL opinion of the examining nurse ( no matter how well trained she is) that was given to the Deputy Attorney General ( who I hope was waiting outside the room), that was then brought to court and presented in open court as a reason to deny bail. I thought that was prejudicial. I wonder if that information turned out to be suspect or at least not strong proof and subsequently BDR was not charged with transportation across state lines for sexual purposes. It seems that the only other information about what went on would be from SP herself.

 

[Yellow Rose]

Gosh I have been twisted like a pretzel in this case! One minute I'm thanking him for getting her away from the evil stepped in it that no one was helping her with and the next minute I'm being told by a nurse and a lawyer that she was SA by BR so I turn on him again....endless cycle here. I don't know what to believe anymore. I just know what I WANT to believe and that's that there was inherent good in BR to remove her from Tennessee if for no other purpose than to get her out of the house of horror.

 

[ilovechili]

It is a hard call. And we never have all of the facts. jmo. Never.

One thing is for sure we think that all can agree on--she is away from RJP and that horror of a lifetime.

 

[human]

I am so not a believer that B had good intentions. Not possible. I think he will be charged with SA in order to get him in prison long enough

 

[Deleted member 158085]

I am so not a believer that B had good intentions. Not possible. I think he will be charged with SA in order to get him in prison long enough

If he did it, he should be. If they don’t charge him with it, there will continue to be doubts.

 

[ilovechili]

I am so not a believer that B had good intentions. Not possible. I think he will be charged with SA in order to get him in prison long enough

I am undecided. I am very decided in many cases, not so much here. Our own experiences probably color us sometimes as well. I just do not understand some of the actions. My best guess is he was not 100 percent evil as some seem to be. Shades it a bit gray for me rather than black and white. And it seems others are on the fence as well, while some are decided.

My thought is there is much conversation we have not seen and may never see. Some of the remarks hint at that as well.

Regardless of anything though, he IS the adult and she is but a child.

I am very decided when it comes to RJP though. No problem there. What is the difference? We know there is a video. I did not like him from the very start either. Maybe if we saw BR live and on camera and media talking, it would help. Regardless of how the video came about, it gives us our reason for not feeling the societal pressure to not judge him or feel like he is "innocent until proven guilty".

The dam*ed video he encouraged her to make is what also is proof positive about stepdad and his charge.

You can add a football team owner to video evidence per the news right now in a crime... And still, a denial is in place and I am sure high powered attorneys will come into play and a defense will be mounted. A child must feel as if they are up against no chance at all, have no power and have been convinced of that...

Just saying...

 

[ilovechili]

Could it possibly be because they are federal charges in another state (not her home town) and RP's are state SA charges in her home town? Just speculating here.

I hope as some say, much is to come with regard to charges against the stepdad.

 

[CluelessWonder]

I have not followed this case since she was located. But I am hopeful that she is in a safe, healthy place right now. I would take on the job of being a real father for this girl in a heartbeat. I have a 13-year-old at home, and she's the sweetest thing ever. And to think about what this a-hole did to that young girl makes me want to hurl. And, although I'm a very peaceful man, I'd be happy to help that guy learn to skydive without a chute.

 

[Unalienable Rights]

RP is charged in TN with a provable crime that was committed while he was living in TN. I believe that they had lived in TN for only around 3 weeks. Maybe further charges in TN are forthcoming, and hopefully it will be enough to put him away for life so he can't hurt anyone ever again. If it can be proven that he is guilty of abusing SP for years prior to the video, most of that abuse likely took place in GA, so if he was to be charged for those crimes, wouldn't he have to also be charged in GA? For the sake of SP and her siblings, I hope that the TN charge will be enough. I'm sure that the prosecutors know what they are doing, and will make the decisions that will provide a maximum sentence.

 

[ilovechili]

Just a thought but adopto-dad (no proof to this day it was any legal adoption that i am aware of), should be charged with crossing state lines for the purpose of SA shouldn't he? I mean really? There has to be as much proof for that. I mean it sure looks intentional, home schooling, isolated, etc... A reason she ran and so forth...

I await those charges and others...

Or is there a charge or statute for crossing state lines for the purpose of being able to "continue" years of SA...

Sorry for feeling like this *thing* should be charged to the hilt on each and every possible charge and having no patience in waiting for it to occur...

 

[ilovechili]

RP is charged in TN with a provable crime that was committed while he was living in TN. I believe that they had lived in TN for only around 3 weeks. Maybe further charges in TN are forthcoming, and hopefully it will be enough to put him away for life so he can't hurt anyone ever again. If it can be proven that he is guilty of abusing SP for years prior to the video, most of that abuse likely took place in GA, so if he was to be charged for those crimes, wouldn't he have to also be charged in GA? For the sake of SP and her siblings, I hope that the TN charge will be enough. I'm sure that the prosecutors know what they are doing, and will make the decisions that will provide a maximum sentence.

I sure hope so. They are often out too soon otherwise. So very silent on the GA front where years were spent...

 

[Rosiebones]

I sure hope so. They are often out too soon otherwise. So very silent on the GA front where years were spent...

It may be very hard to prove the molestation (rape) in Georgia since it would be a "he said, she said" situation because the mother has said she didn't know anything was going on. No other adults could testify now that they knew something was going on because they could be charged. Those years of abuse may never be prosecuted. But they could probably be taken into consideration at sentencing so the maximum sentence could be imposed in Tennessee.