Found Safe TN - SLP, 14, Madisonville, Monroe County, 13 Jan 2019 #3 *ARRESTS*

[SharonNeedles]

BBM But we are talking about a minor? I would love to know if he(perp) would be described as "having sex with" say....a five year old? I'm not trying to be argumentative, but the verbiage just doesn't make sense to me.

Rape is not an action, rape is a crime defined by the actions that constitute that crime. The investigators’ role is to objectively describe the actions they witnessed, it is the role of the courts to determine if those actions constitute a crime - then charge and prosecute if it does. This was by the book.

 

[Jethro4WS]

"Being a willing participant" makes it a much lesser form of rape. And I believe the sheriff would've qualified his statement if there was any evidence whatseoever that this innocent little girl participated in her own abuse by the man who raised her as a father, in any way, which would make it a statutory rape type of charge.

Being a willing participant - your words - is different from being a passive and fearful victim, who does what she's told or fails to scream out, etc.

I am offended by the suggestion that this is a possibility in this case. This baby ran away for a reason. She didn't run with away with her abuser. While a vulnerable child who is manipulated by a predatory older adult into a "relationship" is absolutely a victim, there is a difference. It's still horrible and criminal. But a little girl raped by the man who raised her is different from a vulnerable child convinced she's in love with her molester.

For that reason, rape is punishable in TN by a possible 8-30 years and aggravated statutory rape of the kind you may be thinking about would be punishable by 2-12 years.

I am not saying it is the case. I don't know what part you don't understand. Once again, unequivocally I have stated that under all circumstances this is rape. Never said it was anything but rape. Never even implied it was anything else. There is no way that anything makes it other than rape. I don't know how many times I can say it. Would a billion times suffice?

And, I am not thinking of any specific charge or class of charge. I have repeatedly said that we have not seen the specific statute he was charged with. Nothing more. Nothing less. If you have seen the charging document and can link it that would be great?

My opinion is that he can be charged with any and possibly several of the classes of rape. I just don't know which one(s) they have chosen but I do know we should find out on Tuesday - along with whether they have additional charges and counts to file against him. Keep in mind that at the time they charged RP they had not yet interviewed SP. Detectives did not even head to Wisconsin to talk to her until Friday. So, I expect that there will be additional charges and likely multiple counts since I don't believe this is a one-time situation.

And once again the BBM. 100 percent true - and I never said differently no matter how many times you try to imply otherwise. What you describe is coercion and/or force via coercion and that is way different than a willing participant and the two cannot possibly be confused in any way, shape, or form. I have no confusion between the two.

 

[insearchoflight]

I have seen it reported that RP is adoptive father and bio dad signed away his rights. I will look for link...

 

[cluciano63]

Does she have a living bio dad?

 

[cluciano63]

Jmo...if a person is charged with murder and there is a tape of him doing so...I doubt media would report it as the tape shows him murdering so and so...as that is a legal term. They might say “killing” though probably would say “allegedly shows him killing” so and so.

Am guessing they went with “having sex” for a similar reason though it is much more inflammatory...and inaccurate...all jmo.

 

[cluciano63]

I have seen it reported that RP is adoptive father and bio dad signed away his rights. I will look for link...

If true...a poor history of men choosing seems to emerge at the least...jmo.

 

[insearchoflight]

WATE 6 On Your Side spoke with the mother of the 14-year-old girl, who says she had no idea about any of it and is focusing on coping, her three other children, and getting to see her 14-year-old daughter again after learning everything from authorities.

Adoptive father of missing teen arrested, charged with rape

 

[JudgeJoe]

"Being a willing participant" makes it a much lesser form of rape. And I believe the sheriff would've qualified his statement if there was any evidence whatseoever that this innocent little girl participated in her own abuse by the man who raised her as a father, in any way, which would make it a statutory rape type of charge.

Being a willing participant - your words - is different from being a passive and fearful victim, who does what she's told or fails to scream out, etc.

I am offended by the suggestion that this is a possibility in this case. This baby ran away for a reason. She didn't run with away with her abuser. While a vulnerable child who is manipulated by a predatory older adult into a "relationship" is absolutely a victim, there is a difference. It's still horrible and criminal. But a little girl raped by the man who raised her is different from a vulnerable child convinced she's in love with her molester.

For that reason, rape is punishable in TN by a possible 8-30 years and aggravated statutory rape of the kind you may be thinking about would be punishable by 2-12 years.

Awesome post- I’m hoping for the 30 end of the spectrum. In my younger years I used to hope to get out of jury duty. But I’d LOVE to be summoned for this one...

 

[JudgeJoe]

That's what the law regarding negligence holds. What a person knew or reasonably should have known.

I don't think it's ill conceived. I think negligent behavior can be applied to child neglect.

Hold on. I need to run my hyena but when I come back I can pose some scenarios and also give links to the various laws and sentences regarding rape as you asked in another post.

OT, but hyena?

 

[insearchoflight]

“...her parents stressed they could think of no reason why Pruitt, the oldest of four children, would run away.

“She’s never misbehaved or been a bad kid, ever,” her father, Randall Pruitt, told WVLT-TV . “This is way out in left field for her.”

https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.ws...who-vanished-from-tennessee-home-over-2-weeks

Really can’t think of one single reason huh buddy?

 

[GoBuckeyes]

I respectfully disagree. Negligence laws are MUCH more complex than what was suggested. Criminal versus civil. Compensatory versus contributory... and so on and so forth. I'm not quick to support anything without thoughtful consideration and being satisfied that it will promote justice equally. Laws such as the one proposed offer no consideration for differences in intelligence, critical thinking, or even equal access to information. When a law says a corporation reasonably should have known about a faulty product or component, it's MUCH different than what someone reasonably SHOULD BE expected to KNOW about an individual. That is hard to quantify or legislate and just opens up a whole mess of worms.

If true...a poor history of men choosing seems to emerge at the least...jmo.

So SHE is at fault?!? AYKM!

 

[GoBuckeyes]

If true...a poor history of men choosing seems to emerge at the least...jmo.

Please, can we stop victim blaming? As for now, that is exactly what the mother is...a victim!! I'm amazed. Bio Dad, for whatever reason, not involved. Adoptive Dad rapes his daughter and SHE is partly to blame!?! We know nothing about this woman. With the information we have right now, how can you blame her for her choices in men? You have 2 examples and know nothing about 1 of them and very little about her.

 

[darring21]

Please, can we stop victim blaming? As for now, that is exactly what the mother is...a victim!! I'm amazed. Bio Dad, for whatever reason, not involved. Adoptive Dad rapes his daughter and SHE is partly to blame!?! We know nothing about this woman. With the information we have right now, how can you blame her for her choices in men? You have 2 examples and know nothing about 1 of them and very little about her.

Are you listening to the Gray Hughes interview?

 

[GoBuckeyes]

Jmo...if a person is charged with murder and there is a tape of him doing so...I doubt media would report it as the tape shows him murdering so and so...as that is a legal term. They might say “killing” though probably would say “allegedly shows him killing” so and so.

Am guessing they went with “having sex” for a similar reason though it is much more inflammatory...and inaccurate...all jmo.

I hear what you are saying. So you think media reporting may be partly to blame for the confusion, bc in their reporting they made no distinction between what constitutes an act and what constitutes a crime??

 

[chi123]

Please, can we stop victim blaming? As for now, that is exactly what the mother is...a victim!! I'm amazed. Bio Dad, for whatever reason, not involved. Adoptive Dad rapes his daughter and SHE is partly to blame!?! We know nothing about this woman. With the information we have right now, how can you blame her for her choices in men? You have 2 examples and know nothing about 1 of them and very little about her.

There’s one victim in this case and it’s an innocent child.

 

[GoBuckeyes]

I respectfully disagree. Negligence laws are MUCH more complex than what was suggested. Criminal versus civil. Compensatory versus contributory... and so on and so forth. I'm not quick to support anything without thoughtful consideration and being satisfied that it will promote justice equally. Laws such as the one proposed offer no consideration for differences in intelligence, critical thinking, or even equal access to information. When a law says a corporation reasonably should have known about a faulty product or component, it's MUCH different than what someone reasonably SHOULD BE expected to KNOW about an individual. That is hard to quantify or legislate and just opens up a whole mess of worms.

 

[GoBuckeyes]

There’s one victim in this case and it’s an innocent child.

You are incorrect, given the information we have at this time. At this time, we know that one child was raped. If it stands that the mother did not know, and you don't see her as a victim, too....well, I have no words for that response to her situation.

 

[GoBuckeyes]

I am not saying it is the case. I don't know what part you don't understand. Once again, unequivocally I have stated that under all circumstances this is rape. Never said it was anything but rape. Never even implied it was anything else. There is no way that anything makes it other than rape. I don't know how many times I can say it. Would a billion times suffice?

And, I am not thinking of any specific charge or class of charge. I have repeatedly said that we have not seen the specific statute he was charged with. Nothing more. Nothing less. If you have seen the charging document and can link it that would be great?

My opinion is that he can be charged with any and possibly several of the classes of rape. I just don't know which one(s) they have chosen but I do know we should find out on Tuesday - along with whether they have additional charges and counts to file against him. Keep in mind that at the time they charged RP they had not yet interviewed SP. Detectives did not even head to Wisconsin to talk to her until Friday. So, I expect that there will be additional charges and likely multiple counts since I don't believe this is a one-time situation.

And once again the BBM. 100 percent true - and I never said differently no matter how many times you try to imply otherwise. What you describe is coercion and/or force via coercion and that is way different than a willing participant and the two cannot possibly be confused in any way, shape, or form. I have no confusion between the two.

Here's a link for TN laws on sexual battery. The Laws In Your State: Tennessee | RAINN

 

[Gardener1850]

Gray Hughes is interviewing SLP's bio father live:

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Hope this is okay to post and discuss.

I will flag my post for mods to make sure.

ETA: Live stream has ended. Gray said the video would be uploaded in about 30 minutes or so.

 

[darring21]

I wonder if one of the grandparents were the ones to intervene and take her to Wisconsin. Mom's, bio Dad's, or even Randall's all seem like it may be possible.